Benelli Super Nova vs Remington Express Super Magnum

[Super-Dave]

Which will last the longest and is more durable if you only fired 3.5" rounds?

Benelli Super Nova or Remington Express Super Magnum?

[Dave McC]

Have I mentioned how much I hate "Vs" threads?....

Dave, nobody knows. No one has shot enough 3.5" howitzer rounds through either to wear one out.

A case can be made that the shooter is more likely to fail than the shotgun.

[BigJimP]

Firing 3 1/2" vs 2 3/4" rounds - in my opinion, will have no affect on a decently made pump shotgun.

There's no way I can answer which gun will perform long term or which one may fail. The Super Nova and Nova have solid reputations / the 870 express is not the top of the line of the 870's - like the Wingmaster - but they will both last many thousands of rounds in all probablility.

[JonnyReb]

I can attest to one thing.

My 870 3in. shooting the 3" hevi shot goose loads, with a supercell pad on a synthetic stock, Kicked WAY less than my dads supernova using 3 1/2" blackcloud steel.

The nova, even though it has that fancy looking recoil absorbent stock, kicks the crap out of me and smacks my cheekbone too, just for extra effect. Seems to be a bulletproof shotty but i'll stick with my 870...J.R.

[BigJimP]

You're mixing apples and oranges JohnnyReb - recoil, especially in a pump gun or any fixed action gun, is purely a function of the weight of the gun, the weight of the shot charge and the velocity of the load.

It has nothing to do with the model of pump gun - other than the weight of the gun - if you shot the same load.

[JonnyReb]

Well...:confused:

We were ask to mix them weren't we?

[BigJimP]

No, he was asking about shooting 3 1/2" shells in both guns.

Unless I misunderstood - you were talking about shooting a 3" heavi shot load vs a 3 1/2" black cloud load - and those 2 loads, I'm assuming, have very different velocities as well as different ounces of shot in them - which makes the recoil very different for each load.

[JonnyReb]

Yup, no doubt....sorry bout that..J.R.

[.357 mag]

Plus the Nova might no fit you as well as the 870 which is why your cheek sucks right now.

[BigJimP]

No problem JR but any pain in your face - is either a fundamental problem as you execute the shot / or more likely its a gun fit problem. You shouldn't suffer with any pain in your face when you shoot a shotgun.

Using myself as an example / before I figured this out ... too much drop at the comb, pushed the meat in my face up against the front of my cheek bone. As the gun recoiled, it smacked that bone - bruising me big time /even breaking the skin. The solution for me - is a gun recoiling under that cheek bone. My solution is to put a pad on the comb to raise up comb / or to go to a gun with a comb that is parallel to the rib of the gun - to get it to recoil under that cheek bone - then of course you ought to be able to shoot any load you want without a problem.

[JonnyReb]

I'm lucky that the entire Rem line, 870, 1100, 7400 even the 700's etc...all seem to shoot well for me and don't bust my cheek up. As you mentioned, other brands with different dimensions recoil differently. J.R.

[BigJimP]

Fit is a big issue / so I put a new link up discussing it in a little more detail.

And your right, its all about knowing what fits you. Take Care.