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blacksky
December 21, 2008, 08:13 PM
I'm new to the gun scene and was wondering if there was a certain type or brand of oil that seems to be better for bolt actions than others. Thanks in advance for any input. :cool:

Tuttle8
December 21, 2008, 08:17 PM
I use Eezox. It's a fantastic corrosion preventative and darn good lube. On my bolt guns, I've been using TetraGrease or WeaponShield sparingly on the bolt and sliding surfaces after the application of Eezox.

Also, after the initial application, subsequent cleanings are a breeze and not one iota of rust has been on any of my guns.

ovrmydeadbdy
December 21, 2008, 08:30 PM
CLP is all you'll ever need!!! (you can even brush your teeth with it! Just don't get it in your eye.)

4thPointofContact
December 21, 2008, 08:40 PM
I use Eezox as well even though I have to either order it online or drive 40 miles to the closest place it's stocked. As a preservative... I left my collection of firearms in an un-climate controlled outdoor shed in through three wet Georgia summers and three humid Georgia winters for three years while I deployed overseas. Not a speck of rust on Anything when I returned to pick them up. Aside from a good cleaning and coating with Eezox thre was nothing to protect them except closed windows and a roof overhead, not a bit of conditioning for the air.

For day-to-day lubrication I'll stick a little bottle of CLP in my range bag or pour some Mobil 1 Synthetic into the same bottle. If it will protect my turbo engine operating at 7,200 rpm, I figure it will protect my firearms running at around 30 rpm.

Chief-7700
December 21, 2008, 09:04 PM
Wepons Shield hands down.
http://www.steelshieldtech.com/
Chief

orionengnr
December 21, 2008, 09:29 PM
Another vote for Eezox. Hard to find and expensive, but unmatched for corrosion protection

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html
http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

and superb lubrication qualities.

FWIW, I recently bought some Weapon Shield and am testing it. So far, I'm not seeing anything exceptional about it. Just my .02 worth.

Creeper
December 21, 2008, 09:41 PM
When you say "best", you're always going to open a can of worms. And your question wasn't specific enough to keep that lid on very tight. :rolleyes:

Truth is, there probably isn't a bad, brand name, firearms specific lubricant on the market.

Are were talking a grease for bolt action rifles to apply to the locking lugs, or are we talking a general purpose corrosion inhibitor and lubricant?

See what I mean... greases, lubricants, lubricant/corrosion inhibitors. All these guys have their favorites and there's not a bad one in the bunch.

I kinda lean with Tuttle8 if we're talking about a blued gun... a general lubricant/rust inhibitor on all exterior surfaces with a tiny bit of high pressure grease on the caming surfaces.
If its a stainless gun... as in all stainless, then all you really need is the grease, and preferably one for stainless to stainless contact.

C

oldcspsarge
December 21, 2008, 09:43 PM
The best lubricant for firearms is Militec.

http://www.militec1.com/

watch the video of the investigation where CLP caused weapons malfunctions in the Sand War and where Militec is what the troops say WORKS !

B.N.Real
December 21, 2008, 10:29 PM
I just read a comparison that said that the various Moly Lubes were best (when sprayed on,let dry and polished-read that-polished-off) and also that Rem Oil was outstanding too.

Unclenick
December 21, 2008, 11:29 PM
The moly lubes often rank best because their coefficient of friction is lowest among the enduring lubes. The carrier is another matter. In the sandbox they've had millenia of wind-driven impact of sand-on-sand that makes it finer and finer until it makes a gun-choking abrasive dust that sticks to any remotely damp or wet surface lube, including CLP and others that are very good to excellent outside that particular environment. As you might expect, dry lubes and cleaners have gotten popular there. For example, Mil-comm 25B (http://www.mil-comm.com/) (fluoropolymer-based) claims to be the only military-approved lube for Gatling guns (modern motorized, that is; not Civil War era). It is burnished into the warmed metal and ends up dry, so it doesn't hold dust. Gunzilla has become a popular gun cleaner in the sandbox and, if its web page is to be believed, has ended a lot of malfunction problems (http://www.topduckproducts.com/testimonials.aspx). The way it does that is it dries to leaves a thin smooth lubricating varnish is dry.

Two I've come to like well in specific applications are MolyFusion and Plate+ Silver. Moly Fusion (http://www.shootersolutions.com/boreafter.html) is the ultimate dry lube. It is a micro-thin metal conversion process that leaves behind a waxy feeling semi-permanent coating of molybdenum-based phosphate. It is truly dry and dust can't stick to it at all. The coefficient of friction is a very effective 0.07. It has the advantage of working on aluminum as well as on steel. The drawback is that it requires heating (140°F or so) and a bit of practice and sometimes a second or third coat for the original version. There is now a newer more active formulation that is supposed to overcome some of that.

Plate+ (http://www.sprinco.com/plateplus.html), is based on a patent licensed from NASA. Like Weapon Shield, it is an electronegative surface bonding synthetic lubricant which has semi-permanent properties. Plate+ Silver additionally contains micronized acid-neutralized molybdenum disulphide in colloidal suspension (it never settles out, except a very tiny percentage). You soak a piece of steel in it for 48-72 hours, at the end of which it is in place and not easily removable. No matter how dry you think you've wiped the metal, it is still there. As an example of its penetrating properties, there are several steel hinges in my house that used to squeak badly. I put all manner of conventional lube on them in the past, and after a few months they would start to squeak again and need fresh lubrication. I put a few drops of Plate+ on each of them. 90% or so of the squeak stopped right away, but after about two days it had penetrated and affixed itself to the metal, so all squeaking stopped and hasn't returned in over four years. The coefficient of friction is an astonishing 0.02.

The drawbacks to Plate+ are that it works only on ferrous metal and does nothing for aluminum. It also take several days to complete treatment. The company makes wheat they call Machine Gun Lube, which is a synthetic oil and Plate+ mix that is a general purpose gun lube, but would not be for the desert.

FireForged
December 22, 2008, 12:40 AM
Hands down... MPRO7

MPRO7 Cleaner
MPRO7 Lube

rgates
December 22, 2008, 12:47 AM
Weapon Shield on everything.

mwar410
December 26, 2008, 05:19 PM
break free it's military spec. and works in all temps.

BuckHammer
December 26, 2008, 06:36 PM
WD40.
Just Kidding.:D

P97
December 26, 2008, 07:10 PM
After using Eezox on all my guns for years, I wouldn't use anything else.

triggerhappy2006
December 26, 2008, 08:34 PM
Synthetic Tranny fluid on the AK and mossy's, MPRO7 on all the others

Mike in VA
December 26, 2008, 09:59 PM
This stuff has served me well. It's easy, non-toxic, don't stink, won't mess up your wood grips, & does a very good job for general cleaning. It also has an anti-corrosive/rust inhibitor/preservator,but not so great on heavily leaded or fouled bores, but for general cleaning, it's great stuff.

http://www.prolixlubricant.com/

NormOps
December 26, 2008, 10:00 PM
I like RemOil for a light lube. I also use the heavier copper grease stuff for auto slides, like what comes on Glocks from the factory. A couple different companies make it, including Lock Tight. (which makes no sense at all:p )

Eli

luvsasmith
December 26, 2008, 10:10 PM
+1 for CLP. Commercially marketed as Breakfree, referred to in the Marines as CLP.

MeekAndMild
December 26, 2008, 10:15 PM
#1 Singer Sewing Machine Oil, something that is hard to find nowadays

A tie for scond place is Breakfree CLP, Rem Oil, S&W oil and One Shot dry lube.

CARGUY2244
December 27, 2008, 12:23 AM
slip 2000, clp

aufevermike
December 27, 2008, 12:35 AM
I discovered CorrosionX last year............ amazing stuff

hoytinak
December 27, 2008, 12:40 AM
I use Weapon Shield CLP on every firearm I own.

KUHIO
December 27, 2008, 12:44 AM
I use Rem oil, I've got no complaints

El Paso Joe
December 27, 2008, 02:07 AM
This is a great thread. I have been collecting gunsmithing books over the last 40 years - and some of those were a bit long in the tooth then... So, when I saw the thread, I went and looked through them for lube oil and greases. What they had was a mix of off the shelf stuff like Outers Gunslick, Hoppes oil, Outers oil and some custom stuff you could do yourself - Gulfoil (from your local Gulf Station) mixed 50/50 with sperm oil you could get from your local pharmacist (with Sperm Whales being on the endangered list, I don't think you can get it anymore). Sperm oil is specifically listed for cold area hunts - the stuff never gummed.

Reading Uncle Nick's post, I think that the old & arcane listings have been well updated. Great post - I will take some notes and give some of them a try.

Again, great thread.

blacksky
January 4, 2009, 08:57 PM
What's the best gun oil? When I first strated this thread, I was looking for the best lubricant, hence the word oil was used, as oil in my experience oil has always been a lubricant. Wasn't looing for a polish, bolt or bore cleaner, just the best alround lubricant. My father always used Singer Sewing Machine Oil. Thanks to all that have responded.

FireForged
January 5, 2009, 12:39 AM
MPRO-7

BuckHammer
January 5, 2009, 12:51 AM
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but how good is regular Hoppe's number 9 in comparison to CLP? I'm considering a switch. No sense using a solvent and a lubricant when CLP will do it all, and do it better.

armsmaster270
January 5, 2009, 02:34 AM
I vote CLP I Have over 3 gallons of it in my garage.

azsixshooter
January 5, 2009, 02:57 AM
After reading this detailed report I have switched from Rem-Oil to CLP:

http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/breakfree.htm

Also, the AGI Gunsmithing videos I have mostly all recommend using Breakfree CLP too and it has worked great for me so far. If I ever have any problems with it then I'll look for something better, and probably harder to find and more expensive.