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bamafan4life
June 11, 2009, 06:27 PM
hi. how far do you think the pattern of a 12 gauge open chocked pump action shotgun with a 20'' barrel, can keep all 9 pellets of 2 3/4 00 buckshot on a target the size of your average deer? what about hog? you see since rifle ammo is so hard to find, im going to have to resort to my trusty 12 gauge for pretty much everything. id use slugs but my shotgun dont have rifle sights or a scope (maybe i could find a mount for it and use it for my purpose and double it as a HD shotgun? id need a quick detachble red dot scope though and a scope in quick detachable rings though. any imput would be helpful and yes buckshot is legal in my state for deer.

rantingredneck
June 11, 2009, 06:31 PM
With a cylinder bore barrel you really want to use one of the new federal or hornady loads with flite control wad if at all possible.

Given that, you still need to pattern the gun to see what your gun and barrel will do, but a good rule of thumb is 25-30yds given the ammo noted above.

TxGun
June 11, 2009, 07:08 PM
I shot a hog about a month/6 weeks ago with 12 ga. 2 3/4" 00 Win. Supreme buckshot out of a 20" bbl. 870 at +/- 20 yards over a baited barrel. First one taken like that...just wanted to see how well buck worked. It worked. Shot it in the side of the head and rolled it. Kicked like a sonofagun for 15-20 seconds but it was stone dead when I got to it. I haven't tried it again, but I have zero qualms about it.

Doyle
June 11, 2009, 07:15 PM
Take yourself a whole section of newspaper, two long stakes, some masking tape and make a target. Back up about 30 paces and shoot. That is really the only way you will know for sure.

dalecooper51
June 11, 2009, 07:19 PM
Make sure that you are allowed to use buckshot for hunting deer. PA is a slugs only state for shotgun. When I hunted in shotgun only areas, I was able to hit consistently out to about 50 yards or so with a IC choked 20 inch barrel with a bead sight using Brennekes.

hogdogs
June 11, 2009, 07:25 PM
30 yards MAXIMUM with 20 preferred but that is why I use slugs. 50-80 yards...
Brent

Jekyll
June 11, 2009, 08:29 PM
I've taken 2 deer with 2 3/4 00 Buck mags at about 40 yards each. Both took 3 balls to the breadbox with the other balls missing. Each got 1 hole through heart and 2 to the lungs. 1 deer ran 20 yards and 1 ran 75 yards. I found the 2nd deer the following morning.

This doesn't answer the question of how far can you range out and still keep all the pellets on the target, rather it domonstrates that you don't need all the pellets on the target. Also, you might not want all lthe pellets on target with all the accompanying damage.

bamafan4life
June 11, 2009, 11:12 PM
okay ive decided to mount a scope on my shotgun and use rifles slugs. thank you for your help.

Micahweeks
June 12, 2009, 12:39 AM
Well, if you've decided to go the slug route, some shooters have hit deer out to just at or over a hundred yards before. Me, personally, my best is about 75-80 yards for deer. Supposedly, the guy at the local gun store told me the FN SLP with the rifled choke can hit deer pretty hard with slug out to 130 yards within 3 inches POA. I'm not sure if that's true, but we'll see. I'm thinking hard about buying it.

ChancePendergrass
July 10, 2009, 10:54 PM
Put You A Rear Bead Sight On It Dont Worry About That Red Dot Mess On A Shot Gun Here In Georgia Maximum Range Were We Live Might Be 50-100 Yards

hogdogs
July 11, 2009, 12:13 PM
how far can u kill a deer.
ALL THE WAY TO DEAD!!!!:D
Sorry smart aleck moment!
Brent

Smallgame2100
July 11, 2009, 02:50 PM
I wouldn't try any farther than 50 yards, maximum. I suggest a barrel with a choke for tighter patterns.

darkgael
July 11, 2009, 03:16 PM
Txgun: I shot a hog about a month/6 weeks ago with 12 ga. 2 3/4" 00 Win.
How many pellets did you find in the animal? Just curious.
Pete

bamafan4life
July 11, 2009, 09:31 PM
Dude im using slugs.

hogdogs
July 11, 2009, 09:37 PM
Cheap rifled slug from a cheap 18 inch cylindrical bore mossberg barrel... 50-60 yards is an easy off hand shot for me with an 80 yard shot being my preferred limit. Will it kill at 100? Likely would but at 100 I may have hip shot the poor bugger.
Brent

T. O'Heir
July 11, 2009, 09:50 PM
Buckshot is useless past 30 yards. A scoped smooth bore shotgun using slugs is good for 100 yards, easy. They can be remarkably accurate. A rifled barrel is more accurate though.
And 'U' is not a word.

Skydiver3346
July 11, 2009, 10:12 PM
Hi Bamafan4life,
With .12 GA 00 buckshot, the longest distance i have taken a deer was almost 50 yards. I would ususally like to have them a lot closer than that when hunting with a shotgun. But I was using a full choke Rem 11-87, (not a improved cylinder or open choke you are asking about).

If I were you I would probably go at least to a modified, (but preferably full choke) for buckshot and deer hunting. That is of course, if you have a shotgun barrel that uses screw in chokes. If you have a permanent cylinder bore barrel on your shotgun, then you need to be a lot closer to the deer to consistenly take the animal. Plus, it is a lot more fair to the deer to make the best shot you can. Tighter buckshot patterns will most always give you a better chance for success when deer hunting.

(GatorFan4life)

JohnKSa
July 12, 2009, 12:28 AM
Definitely a question that should be answered at the range using the shotgun you plan to hunt with and the specific loading that you intend to use.

That's true whether you go with slugs or shot.

TxGun
July 12, 2009, 01:20 AM
Hog

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Txgun:
Quote:
I shot a hog about a month/6 weeks ago with 12 ga. 2 3/4" 00 Win.

How many pellets did you find in the animal? Just curious.
Pete
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You know, I didn't specifically look. It was getting dark, I was working by flashlight to get backstap and hams for a neighbor. But knowing how my gun patterns at that range...approx. 20 yards, maybe a little less...I think I probably got about 5, maybe 6, of 9 into him. I shot a tad high, I think.

shortwave
July 12, 2009, 10:59 AM
dude I`m using slugs JohnKSa answered your question. The better you know your gun and load the more accurate you`ll be. Example: I`ve got an Rem 1100 12ga. smoothbore that I`ve had for some 30 yrs. Been more than a few deer taken @ 100yds. with this gun. Why? I`m confident with it. Know the hold-off to use with the round I`ve forever shot out of it. Several other shotguns in safe but I`m not as confident with them . Again, as John said, much range time in order. Though it happens, nothing worse than a wounded animal getting away.

Pbearperry
July 12, 2009, 11:45 AM
I would be suprised if the distance would be more than 20 yds.

T.A.Sharps
July 12, 2009, 03:09 PM
I have never used rifle sights when I was hunting with standard slugs, always beads.

I would not want to use buck for hunting, even though for some reason in Iowa it is illegal to use Buckshot. With 9 pellets seem that your killing power would be split 9 different ways rather than just one big fat way. Hopefully hitting a vital part at range.

Slugs are the way to Go.

You can always get some aftermarket sights that go on your vent rib.

Chindo18Z
July 12, 2009, 04:20 PM
Mossberg 500, 2 & 3/4" 12 GA slugs, 18" cylinder bore, factory bead sight = dead deer out to 60-70 yards...no problem.

You don't need rifle sights (or optics for that matter) at that kind of range.

Use slugs.