Steve Koski
November 11, 1998, 02:40 PM
We rented US Marshalls the other day. Good flick, but lots of bogus gun play. I found the following:
Wires Crossed
1. Tommy Lee Jones carried a Glock 9mm, not the Glock 40 he discusses at the end of the movie. Near the beginning of the movie there are several close ups where he points his muzzle towards the camera and it's clearly a 9mm barrel, not a 40. The Glock 9mm is probably easier to rent, and they figured no one would notice.
2. The "nickel plated sissy gun" is not nickel plated. It is made of stainless steel and has a matte finish. Try as I might I couldn't tell what the make of this gun was. Do any of you know what it was?
3. The revolver that Wesley Snipes gets from the trucker is a Ruger SP-101. It is a 5 shot revolver, not 6 as they claim. Also, the vast majority of these are made in .357 mag caliber, but some are in 38 special, but the police claim it's a 38. Possible, but not likely. Maybe he's carrying 38 loads in a 357.
4. Wesley Snipes shoots Tommy Lee Jones once in the vest in the swamp, but they recover two slugs from his vest. Tommy even holds both slugs in his hand later. Maybe it was a double charge. (ha ha ha)
5. In the old folks home the bad guy draws his Glock, doesn't chamber a round, and continues walking down the hall. There is a close up of his hand and the gun. There is no round in the chamber because his finger is way too far to the rear to allow the trigger to be in the forward (ready to fire) position. Yet we're supposed to believe that the gun is ready to fire.
6. The bad guy shoots the deputy once in the chest in the old folks home, but later they discuss how he was shot twice in the chest. Another double charge I guess.
7. At the end of the movie Tommy Lee Jones is discussing Glock 40's and mentions that they fire under water. A Glock 9mm with marine spring cups can fire FMJ under water, but a Glock in any other caliber can not. I've read that they will most likely be destroyed.
8. In this same scene Tommy Lee Jones takes the bad guys Glock 40, swaps magazines with it, and gives it back to him. He does NOT clear the chamber. The bad guy doesn't chamber a round before attempting to shoot Tommy Lee Jones (because he carries with a round in the chamber, as seen earlier). But, when he tries to shoot Tommy Lee Jones the gun goes click. Even Jennifer caught this one. Also, the click is not a Glock click, but a neater sounding click.
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid
1. I don't know why they consistently show the US Deputy Marshalls carrying their guns on an empty chamber. Maybe it just gives them another opportunity to manipulate the gun for the camera. I seriously doubt they carry condition 3 in real life.
2. In the building at the cemetery the deputy (who later gets killed) is clearing a room and totally leads with his muzzle as he passes through a curtain. On top of that, he is carrying his gun pointed at the ceiling. Really bad tactics.
3. Throughout most of the movie they carry their guns muzzle high, which bad tactics (except in certain specific cases). I've been told that the reason for this is that it puts the gun closer to the actors face and looks better on camera.
4. Tommy Lee Jones almost always holds his pistol in one hand and lets his other hand wag in the breeze. This is totally stupid. When Wesley Snipes is climbing over the wall, Tommy Lee Jones stops running and aims at him. He holds the gun in one hand and rests it across the wrist/forearm of his other hand. Brilliant.
5. They clear rooms so fast in the movie they would almost certainly be shot and killed by an armed adversary in the room.
6. At one point Tommy Lee Jones is sprinting across the cemetery waving his gun wildly with his finger on the trigger. Nice.
7. Everyone walks around with their fingers on the trigger even though they have no target. Even the cover for the video shows Tommy Lee Jones with his finger on the trigger and no target.
What are some other good movies with major bogus gun play?
Wires Crossed
1. Tommy Lee Jones carried a Glock 9mm, not the Glock 40 he discusses at the end of the movie. Near the beginning of the movie there are several close ups where he points his muzzle towards the camera and it's clearly a 9mm barrel, not a 40. The Glock 9mm is probably easier to rent, and they figured no one would notice.
2. The "nickel plated sissy gun" is not nickel plated. It is made of stainless steel and has a matte finish. Try as I might I couldn't tell what the make of this gun was. Do any of you know what it was?
3. The revolver that Wesley Snipes gets from the trucker is a Ruger SP-101. It is a 5 shot revolver, not 6 as they claim. Also, the vast majority of these are made in .357 mag caliber, but some are in 38 special, but the police claim it's a 38. Possible, but not likely. Maybe he's carrying 38 loads in a 357.
4. Wesley Snipes shoots Tommy Lee Jones once in the vest in the swamp, but they recover two slugs from his vest. Tommy even holds both slugs in his hand later. Maybe it was a double charge. (ha ha ha)
5. In the old folks home the bad guy draws his Glock, doesn't chamber a round, and continues walking down the hall. There is a close up of his hand and the gun. There is no round in the chamber because his finger is way too far to the rear to allow the trigger to be in the forward (ready to fire) position. Yet we're supposed to believe that the gun is ready to fire.
6. The bad guy shoots the deputy once in the chest in the old folks home, but later they discuss how he was shot twice in the chest. Another double charge I guess.
7. At the end of the movie Tommy Lee Jones is discussing Glock 40's and mentions that they fire under water. A Glock 9mm with marine spring cups can fire FMJ under water, but a Glock in any other caliber can not. I've read that they will most likely be destroyed.
8. In this same scene Tommy Lee Jones takes the bad guys Glock 40, swaps magazines with it, and gives it back to him. He does NOT clear the chamber. The bad guy doesn't chamber a round before attempting to shoot Tommy Lee Jones (because he carries with a round in the chamber, as seen earlier). But, when he tries to shoot Tommy Lee Jones the gun goes click. Even Jennifer caught this one. Also, the click is not a Glock click, but a neater sounding click.
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid
1. I don't know why they consistently show the US Deputy Marshalls carrying their guns on an empty chamber. Maybe it just gives them another opportunity to manipulate the gun for the camera. I seriously doubt they carry condition 3 in real life.
2. In the building at the cemetery the deputy (who later gets killed) is clearing a room and totally leads with his muzzle as he passes through a curtain. On top of that, he is carrying his gun pointed at the ceiling. Really bad tactics.
3. Throughout most of the movie they carry their guns muzzle high, which bad tactics (except in certain specific cases). I've been told that the reason for this is that it puts the gun closer to the actors face and looks better on camera.
4. Tommy Lee Jones almost always holds his pistol in one hand and lets his other hand wag in the breeze. This is totally stupid. When Wesley Snipes is climbing over the wall, Tommy Lee Jones stops running and aims at him. He holds the gun in one hand and rests it across the wrist/forearm of his other hand. Brilliant.
5. They clear rooms so fast in the movie they would almost certainly be shot and killed by an armed adversary in the room.
6. At one point Tommy Lee Jones is sprinting across the cemetery waving his gun wildly with his finger on the trigger. Nice.
7. Everyone walks around with their fingers on the trigger even though they have no target. Even the cover for the video shows Tommy Lee Jones with his finger on the trigger and no target.
What are some other good movies with major bogus gun play?