[stagpanther]

Grip on the foreend as well as the pull in would counteract some of that muzzle rise, I guess it really depends on how much rise there before the bullet clears the muzzle. The big magnums I shoot--especially ones without a muzzle device--repressing that muzzle lift is going to be hard to do (and transfer more felt recoil). It seems to me the muzzle lift is just another vector of recoil force resulting from a lever moment due to the off-centerline contact point of the shoulder.