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Qwiks draw · February 18, 2010, 05:23 PM

Question. Is he physically able to shot a handgun or handle a firearm?
Second question. Are there better guns to do the job?

The Judge concept is a good one, but only to a point.

Any firearm, that inludes shotguns or the Judge need to be aimed fire and not point the barrel in the general direction of an attacker and pulled. There are some minor exception to this, but not enough to warrant letting rounds go down range without being sure where the rounds are going to go.

The .45 Colt rounds need to be aimed directly at the attacker/s.

Same goes for the buckshot loads or slugs.

The Judge is a close in contact or not past 7 yards handgun. There are exceptions ot this.

Buckshot are going to spread, and do, very far apart the further the target is from the gun making on target ballistics very sketchy the longer the range.

Multiple hits at close range with many wounds being inflicted is in the Judge's baliwick. The velocity for those projectiles is much less than if the projectiles were delivered from a full length shotgun barrel. This is overlooked too often.

So there are things to consider before getting any firearm for anyone.

Please read the following link about the Judge and the ammo and how it actually performs under real conditions.

Yes, I wrote some of it but had to have Judge owners and users get brought down to earth as to what the gun can and cannot do.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...?topic=23048.0

There are links within the links that will need to be viewed as well.

That said there are things that the Judge does well within it's limits like any other firearm.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=395384
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=392382
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=387902

In the above provided links are the .410 buckshot and .45 Colt real world abilities out of the Judge barrels of various lengths.

Also all you need to know about the Judge. That's from the actual owners of the Judge.

So please consider all this before getting any firearm for your grandfather or one that he buys for himself.

The gun has to fit him, his real world abilities. and his needs. No one elses needs.

There are revolvers that can do the same job or better than the Judge.

Same goes for pistols.

There are Beretta 86s in .380 ACP that have tilt up barrels for loading and unloading. Racking the slide is not needed. The Beretta 86 is know a used gun proposition, but seems to be found out there at stores, online sites, and other places.

Same goes for Beretta 21As in .22lrf or .25 ACP. These are traditional DA/SA pistols

Taurus has the DAO only PT22 and PT25 that have the tip up barrels as well.

These are not power houses by any means. They are user friendly and infirm people can use them. Infirm people can use reolvers as well.

The large documented number of cases in just the last few years by the NRA and other soures show that a lot of 65+ years of age gun owners saving their lives with anything from the above suggested guns to .38 Special and 9mm. guns. So it can be done.

February 18, 2010, 05:23 PM	#4
Qwiks draw Junior member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Posts: 879	Question. Is he physically able to shot a handgun or handle a firearm? Second question. Are there better guns to do the job? The Judge concept is a good one, but only to a point. Any firearm, that inludes shotguns or the Judge need to be aimed fire and not point the barrel in the general direction of an attacker and pulled. There are some minor exception to this, but not enough to warrant letting rounds go down range without being sure where the rounds are going to go. The .45 Colt rounds need to be aimed directly at the attacker/s. Same goes for the buckshot loads or slugs. The Judge is a close in contact or not past 7 yards handgun. There are exceptions ot this. Buckshot are going to spread, and do, very far apart the further the target is from the gun making on target ballistics very sketchy the longer the range. Multiple hits at close range with many wounds being inflicted is in the Judge's baliwick. The velocity for those projectiles is much less than if the projectiles were delivered from a full length shotgun barrel. This is overlooked too often. So there are things to consider before getting any firearm for anyone. Please read the following link about the Judge and the ammo and how it actually performs under real conditions. Yes, I wrote some of it but had to have Judge owners and users get brought down to earth as to what the gun can and cannot do. http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...?topic=23048.0 There are links within the links that will need to be viewed as well. That said there are things that the Judge does well within it's limits like any other firearm. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=395384 http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=392382 http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=387902 In the above provided links are the .410 buckshot and .45 Colt real world abilities out of the Judge barrels of various lengths. Also all you need to know about the Judge. That's from the actual owners of the Judge. So please consider all this before getting any firearm for your grandfather or one that he buys for himself. The gun has to fit him, his real world abilities. and his needs. No one elses needs. There are revolvers that can do the same job or better than the Judge. Same goes for pistols. There are Beretta 86s in .380 ACP that have tilt up barrels for loading and unloading. Racking the slide is not needed. The Beretta 86 is know a used gun proposition, but seems to be found out there at stores, online sites, and other places. Same goes for Beretta 21As in .22lrf or .25 ACP. These are traditional DA/SA pistols Taurus has the DAO only PT22 and PT25 that have the tip up barrels as well. These are not power houses by any means. They are user friendly and infirm people can use them. Infirm people can use reolvers as well. The large documented number of cases in just the last few years by the NRA and other soures show that a lot of 65+ years of age gun owners saving their lives with anything from the above suggested guns to .38 Special and 9mm. guns. So it can be done.