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Old August 21, 2001, 04:18 PM   #22
BrokenArrow
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I think ya goofed a little? The 124 +P GD is 20.25/.53 not .58?

The 147 BT did 16.35/.61. Looks like that "beats" the above to me. As far as wound volume anyway, especially if you only measure/score to 18 inches (forget that?).

Many loads that penetrate over 18 inches in gel are _not_ overpenetrationg in actual shootings; can take some oomph to stretch and punch through skin/clothes on the far side, not to mention ribs, shoulder blades, sternum. Looking at some of the guys in my gym and the local biker bars, 18 isn't "too much".

Study was done with San Diego PD looking at performance in real people in real shootings (over 150) with the 147 9mm JHP. Results were very close to gel: avg was about 13/.60.

Stuff can vary from lot to lot, tester to tester. FBI got 17/.58 w older 155 GD, CPRC (Canadian Police Research Centre) got 13.66 shooting through their heavy insulated storm coat and shirts. In bare gel the FBI got 10.7/.84, the CPRC got 13.2/.72. Who knows what your round will do? Might do this when you want that?

New versions of the Gold Dot after cloth:

155/40 GD 18.1/.57
165/40 GD 15.8/.60
180/40 GD 17.5/.60
200/45 GD +P 18.8/.55
230/45 GD 18.9/.59
124/9 GD +P 20/.53
147/9 GD 18/.55
125/357 GD 19/.54

Might as well flip a coin?

This stuff is more useful in determining which ammo to buy than which ammo will "stop" better. Decide what you want it to do, then shoot, measure, score, write the check.

Hit em first, hit em best, hit em often, don't give up!
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