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Old September 1, 2008, 10:33 AM   #1
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Undecided...did Palin change your view?

First, I am not undecided. I will vote for McCain. Palin for VP has changed my vote from ho-hum to absolutely exciting.

My question is for any un-decided lurking on this forum. Did the Palin nomination change your mind?
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Old September 1, 2008, 10:40 AM   #2
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I'm in about the same position as madmag. I would have voted for McCain but not too excited about it (more a vote to prevent Obama from getting a chance to lead us toward socialism). With the selection of Palin I have to admit I'm excited and much more in favor of the Republican ticket.

My wife has also been luke warm toward McCain but is very impressed and excited about Palin.
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Old September 1, 2008, 10:46 AM   #3
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I honestly am still sitting on the fence. I'm battling whether to vote for a Democrat in Republican's clothing or to write in who I truly want in office.

I know the consequences of not voting for McCain is basically a vote for Obama. But, I'm sick and tired of voting to keep the opposition out rather than voting for a person that would actually take steps in running the country the way it was originally intended.
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Old September 1, 2008, 10:57 AM   #4
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I am more excited about the prospects of '12. If Palin is as conservative as advertised she'll make McCain look like Howard Dean. She could count on my vote if that's the case.
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Old September 1, 2008, 11:09 AM   #5
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The selection of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential nominee caused me to go from lukewarm supporter(at best) to financial contributor.

And considering that on Friday McCain raised FOUR times as much money as his previous best day, I guess some other conservatives agreed with me...
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Old September 1, 2008, 11:19 AM   #6
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I wasn't a fence sitter. I was definitely NOT going to vote for either McCain or Obama, but Palin is causing me to rethink my position.
Another complication is that, being in California, I felt safe to vote in any way I wanted since the Dems (almost) always take California. Recently, however, the polls here have closed to single digits (before the Palin announcement), so a vote for McCain just may make a difference.

Edited to add: Technically, I would be voting for Palin, McCain would just be along for the ride.
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Old September 1, 2008, 11:54 AM   #7
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I was a third party write in kind of guy, and felt McCain was the third liberal running, McCain's choice of Palin has changed my mind, and they'll get my vote.
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Old September 1, 2008, 11:59 AM   #8
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Technically, I would be voting for Palin, McCain would just be along for the ride.
Yes, certainly truth to that view.

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to financial contributor.
Yeah, looks like I need to do that to.

Interesting responses so far, actually better than I expected.
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Old September 1, 2008, 12:31 PM   #9
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I don't think many here will dispute our need for a truly conservative administration and that McCain with any of the "Good-ol'-boys" the pundits were trying to pair him with would have been only slightly better than Obama. While I'm not sure Palin will be able to influence the upcoming administration as much as we'd like she'd do quite well as a Presidential candidate in 2012 or 2016.

First though, she has to stick around that long and unless she gets the opportunity to serve as VP she'll slide back into the same obscurity all other failed VPs "enjoy." Granted, if McCain dies during his term she'll have to learn a lot on the job and I think she's capable of doing that but we'd all be better served if she had a few years to learn her way around D.C.

I had no intention of voting for McCain before he chose Palin as his VP. Now I will vote for Palin and 'Ol' Whazzizname' as an investment in the future.
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Old September 1, 2008, 12:46 PM   #10
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No, her being on the McCain ticket has not changed my mind from not voting for him. On top of that her far right stances on some social issues are even more of deal breaker. Both parties have chosen mediocre candidates this year, so in Nov I will be voting third party.
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Old September 1, 2008, 02:23 PM   #11
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Palin confirmed my views

over the ineptitude of McCain. McCain chooses to run as his protege a person who has neither experience or knowledge of national or international events. McCain failed to consider the most basic of all questions: will this person be able to fulfill the duties of the presidency should the need arise.
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Old September 1, 2008, 02:25 PM   #12
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I come in on the side of "originally clothespin voter for mccain, now less so". Until today I would have said that I was totally pumped.

However, I was listening to some talk radio station on the way home from my grandparents ealier today, and the host said something very interesting. He noted that Mccain would probably try to put "experienced" people on the cabinet. This is typically a good thing, but if Rudy Giuliani is attorney general. . .


So the clothespins stay on, and the vote goes for mccain.
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Old September 1, 2008, 03:07 PM   #13
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Numerous posts edited or deleted for off topic material.

As Denny said in this now closed thread:
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Oh my God! A pregnant, unwed teenager? How scandalous. This would probably not be so sensational if any teenager had ever gotten pregnant before in the history of the world, but her being the first one…

Attack the candidates on the issues. Let’s leave their kids, on both sides, out of it, OK?
I suppose, if we don't want to talk about the candidates issues and qualifications, we can just go around closing all the various Sarah Palin threads.... Nah. I'll just start reducing the membership.

You want to talk about what the media (and other assorted pundits) have to say about these peripheral issues, you will have to do it somewhere else.

The forum is Legal and Political, not Gossip Central.
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Old September 1, 2008, 03:14 PM   #14
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I was merely voting for McCain because it was the lesser of two evils... now I can go to the polls sober in Nov. and vote Republican.

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Old September 1, 2008, 03:25 PM   #15
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I had no intention of voting for McCain before he chose Palin as his VP. Now I will vote for Palin and 'Ol' Whazzizname' as an investment in the future.
I'm in the same camp.
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Old September 1, 2008, 03:25 PM   #16
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will this person be able to fulfill the duties of the presidency should the need arise.
With her voting record and how efficiently she rose to the executive branch of Alaska with an astronomical approval rating says that, yes, she can. She has the tools. She will not be alone on the top. Contrary to popular belief, the President doesn't just up and make decisions. Presidents actually do surround themselves with other cabinet members that compliment his/her shortcomings.

I'd take an "inexperienced" individual that has so far proven sound judgement even if it is small to others' standards over a pair of the farthest left leaning individuals ever placed on a ticket.

And my question to you: Do you think the alternative choice able to do the same? One way or another, we're going to be stuck with what's on the table.
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Old September 1, 2008, 03:30 PM   #17
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Well, Obama has now given his view on the situation. He's taking the high road like he should.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...-to-media.html

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At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin's statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."

Asked about the insinuation from the McCain campaign that the liberal bloggers trafficking in rumors about Palin write for websites that mention Obama, the senator said, "I'm offended by that."

The Democratic presidential nominee said, "There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. I hope I am as clear as can be – so in case I’m not, let me repeat: We don't go after people's families, we don't get them involved in the politics. It's not appropriate and it's not relevant."

Concluded Obama before getting on his campaign bus headed to Milwaukee, Wisc., "Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired."
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Old September 1, 2008, 03:45 PM   #18
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He's taking the high road like he should.
Good. As I said on another thread, the pregnant subject this is not worthy of response. Now I hope we can keep this thread open and on subject. I find a lot of the people that post do give honest answers about changing their minds. I guess it would also be fair to include if you know anyone first hand that has changed their minds due to Palin.....I know my wife has.
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Old September 1, 2008, 03:51 PM   #19
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Her selection has made it far easier for me to vote for McCain. He finally did something right.
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Old September 1, 2008, 04:06 PM   #20
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I'm enthused. What remains to be seen is what will be her influence on McCain policy. I am still skeptical of his polities. He is beholding big time to globalist interest. He talks a good game on national sovereignty while his record toes the globalist line. He straddles the fence on drilling for our own oil. He reluctantly agreed to drilling offshore but still mouths the environmentalist mantra "thou shalt not drill ANWR". Palin is advertised as a positive. Maybe so, maybe not. It all depends on how McCain plans to deploy her. If perhaps she can change his stand on ANWR then she was a good hire. Failing that, she's just eye candy.
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Old September 1, 2008, 04:11 PM   #21
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Palin makes a huge difference for me. Even with less than two years of experience as Governor of Alaska, she has more executive experience than Biden, McCain, and Obama combined.

It also does not hurt that there is now a real Republican on the Republican ticket.
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Old September 1, 2008, 04:19 PM   #22
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i was voting for mccain anyway but having palin would be cool, especially if she uses 4 years vp experience to launch a campaighn for president, i seriously doubt mccain would run for a second term
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Old September 1, 2008, 04:35 PM   #23
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Would have voted for McCain anyway, but this makes me enthusiastic. We've much to learn about Palin, but my initial take is that she's the first female candidate I've seen who seems confident in herself, comfortable with herself, AND doesn't seem angry at the world that she was born a woman. As such, she's the first female for which I'd be happy to vote. No offense meant to anyone, just something that occurred to me recently.

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Old September 1, 2008, 05:49 PM   #24
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Another thread, but fits this topic.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309056

And this:

http://wcbstv.com/campaign08/geraldi....2.806463.html

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"The potential for a woman to be vice president will really make a difference for girls in this country," she says.
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In a WCBSTV.com poll asking viewers whether McCain's choice would make them more or less likely to vote for him, about 54 percent said it would make them more likely to vote for McCain, 38 percent less likely, and 9 percent said it had no effect.
Why didn't someone tell me months ago that McCain was a really smart guy, then I would not have done all that complaining about him.
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Old September 1, 2008, 06:17 PM   #25
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I think Palin is a great choice and she has my vote. Oh yeah, McCain is on that ticket too.

Seriously, I think John McCain has a better than even chance of winning this election. Sarah Palin will be one of the first vice presidential candidates to actually help the presidential candidate win.

In 4 years, we'll all be talking about Sarah Palin for Persident and Mitt Romney for VP. I think she might very well make a great no nonsense president that can win the hearts of Americans. It will be Hillary against Palin... what a difference 4 years will make.
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