Tactical/Target Mausers

bjohnson1 · April 7, 2008, 10:57 PM

There's got to be someone else out there with one, let's see pictures, hear stories, advice, what you guys prefer, anything about them. I have a 1909 Argentine in a nice walnut stock with a Douglas XX #6 in .300 Win Mag (one holler), I am building a new one with a Commercial Action, Douglas #8 SS Barrel, Vias Brake, Tubb's speed lock setup, B&C Varmint/Target Alloy Bed Stock, Timney Trigger, Hinged Floor plate, Tactical Bolt knob, SS 20x scope. Hopefully Friday I will make it up to my gunsmith's house and start working on it with him. Until then, I want to see all of yours...

(I'll try to get some pictures of mine soon)

Scribe · April 9, 2008, 04:46 AM

I've got three Mauser K98s. Two in 7.62/.308, one in 7.92. The 7.62mm are both Belgian with Israeli stamps. One is virtually stock though I am having Mojo aperture sights fitted. The other has gone the full XS utility scout route with a Ramline stock (Showing cracks after 800+ rounds), Burris 2.75 long eye relief scope, etc, etc. The 7.92mm is Yugoslavian stamped with Prodeuz 44. I am also in the process of fitting a cheap Nikko Pistol scope (Got it cheap from a mate who was clearing out his garage.) I am using the S&K mount system after bad experiences a few years back with B Square.
I'm thinking of replacing the Scouts stock with a Hogue.
Pictures when I can sort out my camera.

surg_res · April 9, 2008, 06:29 AM

I don't think I've ever seen Mauser and tactical in the same sentence. Kind of an oxymoron to me. Either way, sounds like you've found or built some beautiful weapons.

thekyrifleman · April 9, 2008, 08:39 AM

One more....a 1908 Argentine in 7X57...rebarreled with a Douglas premium barrel, Brown glass bedded synthetic stock, Timney trigger at slightly less than 3#, topped off with a Leuopold 2X8 VarXIII. A full case of IMR 4350 with 140 grain Sierras...will shoot into 3/4" all day long. Great deer rifle.

UniversalFrost · April 9, 2008, 10:07 AM

Dude you really need to go to www.mausercentral.com and drool over the pics they have of the users rifles and join the forums as well.

Otherwise, the sky is the limit for a custom mauser. I have several and I am currently working on a VZ-24 (romy contract rifle) that is being made into a light weight "mountain gun" in .308 .

Also, I would not waste the money on the Tubbs speed lock set up. I had one installed on one of my mausers and it didn't do a darn worth of improvement.

JOE

bjohnson1 · April 9, 2008, 08:24 PM

I already bought the Tubb's setup. Anybody ever tried out one of those 20 round magazines? I ordered one of those, looks fun... I need to start saving money for college and stop building / buying guns

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Scorch · April 10, 2008, 01:03 AM

I don't know if this counts as tactical, but I have two Mauser varmint rifles, and am building a 3rd. One is in a myrtlewood stock, one in a fiberglass stock, and the one I am building is going in a walnut stock. I have one more stock, fancy maple, and am planning on building a 6mm Rem varmint rifle on a Mauser action. Let me figure out how to post pics and I will share.

Tamara · April 10, 2008, 04:02 AM

Is .300 Whisper "tactical"?

Wildalaska · April 10, 2008, 05:14 AM

I used to have an FN 30-11 (that I sold cheap 20 years agao what a jerk off move on my part)...shot nice for a funked out Mauser Euro-Trash rifle.

WildnowiownetheplasticversionAlaska TM

ISC · April 10, 2008, 08:20 AM

I used to have a Savage tactical rifle. it was a nice shooter. My FR-8s are the closest thing to a "tactical Mauser" I can think of. I also have a VZ 24 which has been drilled and tapped, with a medium contour .308 barrel, mote carlo stock, and a decent Tasco scope. The previous owner painted it with a garish "urban camo paint job" (grey white and black) I think I'm going to eventually paint the stock with black bed truck liner and paint the rest of the rifle flat black.

bjohnson1 · April 10, 2008, 08:49 AM

yes the 300 whisper is tactical, are you going with a 1-8 twist? My gunsmith is building one of those for a customer, right now he is looking for a cheap Mini Mauser action to build it on...

UniversalFrost · April 10, 2008, 09:06 AM

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he is looking for a cheap Mini Mauser action to build it on

well he should go with a yugo 24/47 or 24/48 (mid length large ring). I did up a nice 7mm-08 on a 24/47 action and A&B F14 contour barrel (chopped to 20") and a boyd's stock. Really light weight and shoots great.

Also, 300 whisper is a nice round, but I sold a pre 64 m70 years ago that was rebarreled and chambered in it and am kicking my self ever since. Great gun and great caliber.

Doc1 · May 3, 2008, 11:36 AM

Hi. I'm new here and find this to be a great board! I like Mausers and own four of them, an FR-8 Spanish Mauser in 7.62x51, an FR-7 Spaniard in 7.62x51and two 24/47 Yugos in 7.92x57.

My favorite, hands down, is the FR-8. It's not as finely finished as the others, but is handy, short length, points well and is reliable. Also, it feeds various bullet profiles - including cast - much better than my Yugos. The absolute best thing about it though is its CETME-style peep sights. My older eyes are no longer up to the standard Mauser tangent sights and not only is the FR-8 peep sight easy to use, I really like the "paddle wheel" style of elevation adjustment with its different apertures. Some folks don't care for the FR-8 peeps, but I think they're great for any conceivable hunting or field use. Is the FR-8 "tactical"? LOL... Well, prolly about as close as any Mauser's likely to get.

I put a set of Mojos ( front and rear) on one of my 24/47s and find it to be a well-made piece of kit. Again, they're a big help to my aging eyes. If any of you guys are going to aperture sights specifically because of vision issues. I strongly recommend that you buy BOTH the front and rear Mojos. Initially- trying to pinch pennies - I only bought the rear and while it was an improvement, it wasn't enough. Adding their aperture front sight made all the difference.

I just acquired an old Redfield SA3 peep sight for my other 24/47 and it's waiting for a 6-48 tap to arrive so I can install it. Unlike the Mojo, it will require drilling and tapping the rear receiver ring. I tested the Redfield's resolving powers at my work bench and with its smaller aperture and shorter eye relief, it appears that it will work fine with the Mauser's stock front sight.

Best regards
Doc

El Paso Joe · May 3, 2008, 12:28 PM

Tactical??? I have a Santa Barbara in the process of becoming a 35Whelen - but I am not sure what tactical means in this context...

Jimro · May 3, 2008, 01:07 PM

I fitted a Parker Hale cadet barrel to a Gew98 action, added a Bold trigger and put it in a laminate stock. Two piece weaver mounts (I put an IOR SSG on it)

Shoots five shots into 1.75 inches at 200 meters.

Traded it to my brother (I kept the scope) for a sported 24/47 cause I already have a Savage tactical that takes care of my precision 308 needs and he needed a bolt rifle to complement his FAL.

Jimro

Bogie · May 4, 2008, 03:24 AM

I'll try to take a picture tomorrow.

I have a Mauser in a Cruiser-style benchrest stock, full-profile barrel, and the whole mess weighs around 20 pounds without a scope. It's chambered for a short .22PPC...

Pthfndr · May 5, 2008, 12:16 PM

Why not just buy a Swede CG63 for $850, slap good glass on it, and go out and kick butt

bjohnson1 · May 27, 2008, 10:10 PM

that gun is nice, also an update on my project, it is almost rough fitted, and should be getting test fired tomorrow. It should be completely finished in about 3 weeks

-Brian

bjohnson1 · June 13, 2008, 11:20 PM

Update 6/13/08

Ok, the gun is taking longer than expected, oh well i guess it is worth waiting for

here are the updated pictures/info

98 Mauser action
Chambered in .300 win mag
Douglas XX Air Gauged Stainless 28 3/4" Barrel (1" at the muzzle)
Bell & Carlson Target/Varmint Aluminum Bedded Stock
Vais Muzzle Break
Tubbs Speedlock Kit
Timney Trigger @ 2lbs
BDL Style bottom metal
Commercial Bolt shroud
EGW 25 MOA Mount
Callahan Aluminum Bolt Knob
Talley Bolt Handle
Super Sniper 20x scope

The barrel is 30 3/8" long with the break

the overall length is 50 3/4"

I really can't wait to get this done, meantime, i am loading ammo to start getting a load worked up. I'm gonna be shooting the 210 bergers to start out with. I might go down to the 190's if I am not happy with the 210's, but the BC is amazing. And, they have some BT's coming out that are supposed to be .647 BC, i really want to get a hold of some of those and see what it'll do.

The only work left to do is to bed the stock, free float the barrel, polish all parts/blue receiver and bottom metal, fit the bolt parts together, and paint/finish fit the stock.

I will keep everyone updated.

-Brian

Jimro · June 13, 2008, 11:27 PM

Those 210 VLD's are really something. I know a guy who shoots them out to 1600 yards.

Jimro

bjohnson1 · June 13, 2008, 11:30 PM

that is the plan here, maybe not that far regularly, but i just want to see how far I can get respectable groups at.

bjohnson1 · October 2, 2008, 06:38 PM

I must have forgotten to post the finished picture of my gun in here. Here it is.

BTW, if any of you are going this route, and want some bottom metal that is set up to use the AI 300 magazines. I am trying to get 10 people together, I have threads both on TFL, as well as Sniper's Hide, so if you know anyone who may be interested, let them know. Here is the link

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...&Number=775104

April 7, 2008, 10:57 PM	#1
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	Tactical/Target Mausers There's got to be someone else out there with one, let's see pictures, hear stories, advice, what you guys prefer, anything about them. I have a 1909 Argentine in a nice walnut stock with a Douglas XX #6 in .300 Win Mag (one holler), I am building a new one with a Commercial Action, Douglas #8 SS Barrel, Vias Brake, Tubb's speed lock setup, B&C Varmint/Target Alloy Bed Stock, Timney Trigger, Hinged Floor plate, Tactical Bolt knob, SS 20x scope. Hopefully Friday I will make it up to my gunsmith's house and start working on it with him. Until then, I want to see all of yours... (I'll try to get some pictures of mine soon) Last edited by bjohnson1; April 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM. Reason: I can't type very well tonight...

April 9, 2008, 06:29 AM	#3
surg_res Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2005 Location: Texas, 5th GEN! Posts: 621	I don't think I've ever seen Mauser and tactical in the same sentence. Kind of an oxymoron to me. Either way, sounds like you've found or built some beautiful weapons. __________________ ----

April 9, 2008, 10:07 AM	#5
UniversalFrost Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,300	Dude you really need to go to www.mausercentral.com and drool over the pics they have of the users rifles and join the forums as well. Otherwise, the sky is the limit for a custom mauser. I have several and I am currently working on a VZ-24 (romy contract rifle) that is being made into a light weight "mountain gun" in .308 . Also, I would not waste the money on the Tubbs speed lock set up. I had one installed on one of my mausers and it didn't do a darn worth of improvement. JOE __________________ Lifetime member VFW and NRA "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (when all else fails play dead) -Red Green

April 10, 2008, 01:03 AM	#7
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	I don't know if this counts as tactical, but I have two Mauser varmint rifles, and am building a 3rd. One is in a myrtlewood stock, one in a fiberglass stock, and the one I am building is going in a walnut stock. I have one more stock, fancy maple, and am planning on building a 6mm Rem varmint rifle on a Mauser action. Let me figure out how to post pics and I will share. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

May 3, 2008, 11:36 AM	#13
Doc1 Junior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Posts: 1	My "tacticals" Hi. I'm new here and find this to be a great board! I like Mausers and own four of them, an FR-8 Spanish Mauser in 7.62x51, an FR-7 Spaniard in 7.62x51and two 24/47 Yugos in 7.92x57. My favorite, hands down, is the FR-8. It's not as finely finished as the others, but is handy, short length, points well and is reliable. Also, it feeds various bullet profiles - including cast - much better than my Yugos. The absolute best thing about it though is its CETME-style peep sights. My older eyes are no longer up to the standard Mauser tangent sights and not only is the FR-8 peep sight easy to use, I really like the "paddle wheel" style of elevation adjustment with its different apertures. Some folks don't care for the FR-8 peeps, but I think they're great for any conceivable hunting or field use. Is the FR-8 "tactical"? LOL... Well, prolly about as close as any Mauser's likely to get. I put a set of Mojos ( front and rear) on one of my 24/47s and find it to be a well-made piece of kit. Again, they're a big help to my aging eyes. If any of you guys are going to aperture sights specifically because of vision issues. I strongly recommend that you buy BOTH the front and rear Mojos. Initially- trying to pinch pennies - I only bought the rear and while it was an improvement, it wasn't enough. Adding their aperture front sight made all the difference. I just acquired an old Redfield SA3 peep sight for my other 24/47 and it's waiting for a 6-48 tap to arrive so I can install it. Unlike the Mojo, it will require drilling and tapping the rear receiver ring. I tested the Redfield's resolving powers at my work bench and with its smaller aperture and shorter eye relief, it appears that it will work fine with the Mauser's stock front sight. Best regards Doc

April 9, 2008, 04:46 AM	#2
Scribe Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2005 Location: England Posts: 249	I've got three Mauser K98s. Two in 7.62/.308, one in 7.92. The 7.62mm are both Belgian with Israeli stamps. One is virtually stock though I am having Mojo aperture sights fitted. The other has gone the full XS utility scout route with a Ramline stock (Showing cracks after 800+ rounds), Burris 2.75 long eye relief scope, etc, etc. The 7.92mm is Yugoslavian stamped with Prodeuz 44. I am also in the process of fitting a cheap Nikko Pistol scope (Got it cheap from a mate who was clearing out his garage.) I am using the S&K mount system after bad experiences a few years back with B Square. I'm thinking of replacing the Scouts stock with a Hogue. Pictures when I can sort out my camera.

April 9, 2008, 08:39 AM	#4
thekyrifleman Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2007 Location: Northern Ky Posts: 254	One more....a 1908 Argentine in 7X57...rebarreled with a Douglas premium barrel, Brown glass bedded synthetic stock, Timney trigger at slightly less than 3#, topped off with a Leuopold 2X8 VarXIII. A full case of IMR 4350 with 140 grain Sierras...will shoot into 3/4" all day long. Great deer rifle.

April 9, 2008, 08:24 PM	#6
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	I already bought the Tubb's setup. Anybody ever tried out one of those 20 round magazines? I ordered one of those, looks fun... I need to start saving money for college and stop building / buying guns...

April 10, 2008, 04:02 AM	#8
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Is .300 Whisper "tactical"? __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

April 10, 2008, 05:14 AM	#9
Wildalaska Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 14,172	I used to have an FN 30-11 (that I sold cheap 20 years agao what a jerk off move on my part)...shot nice for a funked out Mauser Euro-Trash rifle. WildnowiownetheplasticversionAlaska TM

April 10, 2008, 08:20 AM	#10
ISC Junior member Join Date: August 5, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,982	I used to have a Savage tactical rifle. it was a nice shooter. My FR-8s are the closest thing to a "tactical Mauser" I can think of. I also have a VZ 24 which has been drilled and tapped, with a medium contour .308 barrel, mote carlo stock, and a decent Tasco scope. The previous owner painted it with a garish "urban camo paint job" (grey white and black) I think I'm going to eventually paint the stock with black bed truck liner and paint the rest of the rifle flat black.

April 10, 2008, 08:49 AM	#11
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	yes the 300 whisper is tactical, are you going with a 1-8 twist? My gunsmith is building one of those for a customer, right now he is looking for a cheap Mini Mauser action to build it on...

May 3, 2008, 12:28 PM	#14
El Paso Joe Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2006 Location: Spokane Valley Posts: 340	Tactical??? I have a Santa Barbara in the process of becoming a 35Whelen - but I am not sure what tactical means in this context...

May 3, 2008, 01:07 PM	#15
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	I fitted a Parker Hale cadet barrel to a Gew98 action, added a Bold trigger and put it in a laminate stock. Two piece weaver mounts (I put an IOR SSG on it) Shoots five shots into 1.75 inches at 200 meters. Traded it to my brother (I kept the scope) for a sported 24/47 cause I already have a Savage tactical that takes care of my precision 308 needs and he needed a bolt rifle to complement his FAL. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

May 4, 2008, 03:24 AM	#16
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	I'll try to take a picture tomorrow. I have a Mauser in a Cruiser-style benchrest stock, full-profile barrel, and the whole mess weighs around 20 pounds without a scope. It's chambered for a short .22PPC... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

May 5, 2008, 12:16 PM	#17
Pthfndr Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 1999 Location: Sierra Nevada Mtns, CA Posts: 320	Why not just buy a Swede CG63 for $850, slap good glass on it, and go out and kick butt __________________ Proud Parent of a United States Marine, and a CA gun owner.

May 27, 2008, 10:10 PM	#18
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	that gun is nice, also an update on my project, it is almost rough fitted, and should be getting test fired tomorrow. It should be completely finished in about 3 weeks -Brian

June 13, 2008, 11:20 PM	#19
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	Update 6/13/08 Ok, the gun is taking longer than expected, oh well i guess it is worth waiting for here are the updated pictures/info 98 Mauser action Chambered in .300 win mag Douglas XX Air Gauged Stainless 28 3/4" Barrel (1" at the muzzle) Bell & Carlson Target/Varmint Aluminum Bedded Stock Vais Muzzle Break Tubbs Speedlock Kit Timney Trigger @ 2lbs BDL Style bottom metal Commercial Bolt shroud EGW 25 MOA Mount Callahan Aluminum Bolt Knob Talley Bolt Handle Super Sniper 20x scope The barrel is 30 3/8" long with the break the overall length is 50 3/4" I really can't wait to get this done, meantime, i am loading ammo to start getting a load worked up. I'm gonna be shooting the 210 bergers to start out with. I might go down to the 190's if I am not happy with the 210's, but the BC is amazing. And, they have some BT's coming out that are supposed to be .647 BC, i really want to get a hold of some of those and see what it'll do. The only work left to do is to bed the stock, free float the barrel, polish all parts/blue receiver and bottom metal, fit the bolt parts together, and paint/finish fit the stock. I will keep everyone updated. -Brian

June 13, 2008, 11:27 PM	#20
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	Those 210 VLD's are really something. I know a guy who shoots them out to 1600 yards. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

June 13, 2008, 11:30 PM	#21
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	that is the plan here, maybe not that far regularly, but i just want to see how far I can get respectable groups at.

October 2, 2008, 06:38 PM	#22
bjohnson1 Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 32	I must have forgotten to post the finished picture of my gun in here. Here it is. BTW, if any of you are going this route, and want some bottom metal that is set up to use the AI 300 magazines. I am trying to get 10 people together, I have threads both on TFL, as well as Sniper's Hide, so if you know anyone who may be interested, let them know. Here is the link http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...&Number=775104