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November 26, 2008, 04:51 AM | #1 |
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HS Precision Gets Endorsement by Lon Horiuchi
http://blogostuff.blogspot.com/2008/...nt-by-lon.html
This should be enough to make every freedom loving American vomit. HS Precision, manufacturer of stocks and other parts for precsion rifles, is featuring an endorsement of their products by Lon Horiuchi on the back of their catalog. Here's a scan (click on the thumbnail for a full size image): For readers unfamiliar with Horiuchi, he is the FBI sniper who shot Vicki Weaver during the the standoff at Ruby Ridge 1992. He was also present at the 1993 Waco siege where he was again suspected of misconduct. He charged with manslaughter for Weaver's death but the charge was eventually dismissed in a Federal court, the basis for which was the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. (Note that this ruling doesn't go to the merits of the case.) In gun owner circles, he is regarded as a murderer. |
November 26, 2008, 06:09 AM | #2 |
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Link,s busted...
"Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Blog O'Stuff does not exist."
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November 26, 2008, 02:13 PM | #4 |
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Verified this and responded thus:
Date: November 26, 2008 11:06:44 AM PST To: [email protected] Gentlemen, Using Horiuchi's name in print was a very bad call. May I suggest immediate contrition as in a formal apology to the firearms community and a significant publicly announced donation to the 2A rights organization of your choice. In the absence of immediate action here, you will be forever a pariah in the community. Best of luck on correcting this grave error in judgment on the part of your marketing staff, or whomever is responsible. Christopher J. Hoffman |
November 26, 2008, 03:01 PM | #5 |
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Here is a picture of the endorsement
If you just have to kill defenseless babies, this is the rifle you should buy. I can hit an infant in the soft spot from 300 meters. Entirely by accident, of course. signed, Lon
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November 26, 2008, 05:35 PM | #6 |
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Wow, bad marketing move. Given the level of items they make they should know that the part of their market base not supporting this guy actively hate him. That alone should have precluded them from using him from a business standpoint alone.
HINT: Do not run a marketing campaign featuring a spokesman who makes a larger percentage of your customer base vomit.
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Lon Horiuchi was known to have boasted that he could hit a quarter a 200 meters.
I don't believe his version of events, that he fired into an open door way and hit Vicky Weaver in the head by accident. I believe he deliberately took aim at her head knowing full well what he was doing. Many of us here are ex-military and expert marksmen. How many of us would fire a scoped high power rifle at nothing? Into an open door way of a house that contained women and children. Even though there is no way to prove my belief that he deliberately took aim before he fired and even if his story is true. At the minimum he should have been fired from the FBI and convicted of negligent homicide. Quote:
HS Precision must have a real genius in the marketing department.
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November 26, 2008, 07:18 PM | #11 |
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The quote requested above is:
Jeff Cooper's Commentaries Vol. 1, No. 11 10 December 1993 "The Federal agent who shot Vicki Weaver in the face, deliberately, while she was unarmed and holding her child is named Lon Horiuchi. Remember that name. He is still walking around loose. That man must eventually pay for his crime, here or hereafter. Lon Horiuchi." HS Precision needs to issue a statement and clarify whether this is an oversight or a welcomed association.
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I find it hard to believe that any company would hire this guy as a spokeman. With the shape the economy is in, this would be a terrible time to lose your job, especially after you opted to hire a questionable marksman.
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I have to comment.
This is the most disgusting and disturbing news I have heard in some time. I'll never have a good word to say about this company again, ever, until they correct this grave mistake. I'll never buy anything they make, and yes, I will be stock shopping in the near future. Count HS precision out. I'll go with B&C, Stockade, or McMillan, who have the brains enough to forgo soiling their reputation with societal derelicts such as Lon Horiuchi. Mr. Horiuchi's actions on that day weren't only illegal, but morally reprehensible. Truly disgusting in their nature, he has no excuses. Neither does HS precision. I hope his evil deeds come back on him 100 times over. Even that wouldn't be sufficient atonement for his evil doings. Why the man is even allowed to touch a firearm today is beyond me. I can't continue speaking on this right now. I'll wind up getting the boot. Lon Horiuchi=:barf::barf::barf: HS Precision=:barf::barf::barf: |
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not much to say that hasn't already been said
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"I guess we shouldn't have used that endorsement from that guy who murdered that lady while she was holding her infant" doesn't really cut it for me. Kinda like U-Haul using an endorsement from Timothy McVeigh. |
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November 27, 2008, 12:08 AM | #15 |
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Horiuchi also shot Randy Weaver when he and Kevin Harris went down to the shed where the body of his son Sammy lay after being killed the night before by U.S. Marshalls. Weaver's rifle was at sling arms. Weaver, shot in the shoulder, and Harris fled to the house where Vicki Weaver was shot in the face. The bullet also hit Kevin Harris in the shoulder after going thru Vicki Weaver.
When this subject came up on the Sig Forum a couple years ago, the site was flooded with Fed. LEO's (it was obvious), who were vociferous in their protection of the action of the Feds. and just as much so in the condemnation of Weaver. Moderators on the forum let things get out of hand. Not suggesting that will happen here. And let us not forget that it was Larry Potts, FBI desk jockey, who suspended the rules of engagement that gave Horiuchi permission (or a mandate?) to shoot the Weavers on sight. |
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I understand the animus and in a lot of ways share the outrage. However, Weaver and Koresh are to blame for causing events to spiral out of control. As much as I believe that SA Horiuchi is guilty of murder DK and RW should be in the dock right next to him.
I don't want to get into a constitutional arguement about seach and seizure, I think it was more like two factions acting childish. If the law is coming with a warrant you have to comply and fight it out in the courts or you are declaring war. I am not defending the Feds actions I have a pretty low opinion of them as cops "too much college not enough high school". But, my opinion of people resisting arrest is even lower. |
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^^^ Dude people were killed over unpaid federal tax stamps and not filling out the proper form before cutting. In Weavers case for a shotgun barrel a 1/4" too short. I am of the opinion that most in government forget when they pass a new law or regulation they are essentially authorizing the use of deadly force if a citizen chooses not to comply or in the case of Randy Weaver is convinced by law enforcement to cut a barrel below the minimum length. Stupid yes, but was it really deserving of a Swat raid? I think not.
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Its not a big news flash that both Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents are and forever will be sickening,disgraceful events that are a part of our history where outright murder by our government was commited and those responsible(Reno on down to Horiuchi) never even lost their jobs. The known judgement blunders made by the Feds leading up to the final days in these tragedies shall never be forgotten. HS should be boycotted:barf:
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It was one screw up after another on the part of the feds. You can spin it any way you like it: "Weaver was ex green beret and dangerous" or "Weaver was minding his own business" or "Weaver was conned into it". Fact of the matter is that Lon Horiuchi and his superiors are guilty of murder and never had to pay for their crimes because, like so many "officials" today, they hide behind their badge and their authority. Lon Horiuchi=XXX Last edited by Bud Helms; November 27, 2008 at 10:18 AM. Reason: Let's don't start that. Okay? |
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Gee wasnt there a US marshall murdered in this incident of fascist JBTs picking on the innocent freedomloving good Americans?
Regardless, HS Precision needs to apologize and withdraw use of the endorsement. WilddontdebatethefirstpartitisntworthitAlaska TM |
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Perhaps with Comrade B.H. Obama about to reinstate about half of the old Clinton crowd, they thought it appropriate.
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I do know that part of the Feds' out-of-court settlement with the accused, Kevin Harris, was that the settlement did not constitute an admission of liability, but it strikes me as odd that the Feds would be forking over more than a third of a million dollars to someone they felt was an unconvicted murderer. Regardless of one's feelings on the merits of the root case, the Ruby Ridge Fiasco was a nearly textbook example of how not to bring in a fugitive... |
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WildyouwontconvincemeiwontconvinceyouandhsprecisionneedstomakeitrightAlaska TM today: Herb roasted turkey breast, Couscous, steamed Broccoli Last edited by Wildalaska; November 27, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason: happy tgng |
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