Coin-on-the-Barrel-Drill - A variant

MrBorland · October 30, 2009, 04:18 PM

I posted a version of this on THR a little earlier.

Wheelgunners in general seem to like (or at least recommend for others) the ol' "balance the coin on the barrel" dry fire drill to help develop a smooth DA pull. But here's a variant you may not have seen yet. You revolver shooters may get a kick out of this one:

The Set:

Settling down:

The Pull:

A disclaimer: These are pics of a dry fire drill. Yes, my finger is on the trigger. I scrupulously adhere to the Four Rules when handling any firearm, live or dry fire, and the Four Rules were adhered to here as well. The gun was triple-checked before starting, muzzle always pointed in a safe direction, and finger off the trigger until I and the gun were positioned and ready to begin.

Dragon55 · October 30, 2009, 04:31 PM

If you can snap that without the nickel falling you are good.... but I'd have to see it

nutty ned · October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM

We need a viedo of that.

Renfield · October 30, 2009, 08:13 PM

is that a 64 or a 65?

MrBorland · October 31, 2009, 02:38 AM

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is that a 64 or a 65?

It's a 3" 65. With the exception of some Pachmayr grips, it's bone stock.

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We need a viedo of that.

I've been thinking of doing that. The pics are legit, though. No photoshop, glue, tape, or alterations to the coin (a nickel) or the gun. Just stand straight, extend your arm, find your inner peace, place the coin with your weak hand, lower your weak arm, and pull the trigger. Give it a try!

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If you can snap that without the nickel falling you are good

I think I'd be God. The sudden release of the sear and/or the hammer hit should certainly make it impossible to keep the coin there on edge.

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.... but I'd have to see it

If/when I make that video, I'll be sure to post it

Renfield · October 31, 2009, 05:07 PM

nice, who doesn't like a good S&W 65?

Don P · October 31, 2009, 10:33 PM

Oh boy, will it ever end?

MrBorland · November 4, 2009, 04:59 PM

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We need a viedo of that.

My first attempt at making a vid and posting on youtube. Gets the gist across, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nES4A0rd1ak

Dragon55 · November 4, 2009, 05:06 PM

You didn't snap it but hey KUDOS!! I cannot do that.... Uhhh some good smithing on the trigger I think???

Gary in Pennsylvania · November 4, 2009, 07:34 PM

WOW!

I'm impressed!!!!

Bigjim3 · November 4, 2009, 07:55 PM

Im very impressed. Think you could loan me a nickle???

jad0110 · November 4, 2009, 09:10 PM

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I think I'd be God. The sudden release of the sear and/or the hammer hit should certainly make it impossible to keep the coin there on edge.

Haven't tried standing it up like that yet. But even when I set it on top of the barrel flat, the coin often jumps up from the sudden shock of the hammer striking the frame.

Is that a sign of not griping hard enough???

EDIT: Hmmm, I usually use a penny. Do most people use heavier nickels when doing this?

Bigjim3 · November 4, 2009, 09:17 PM

Ive got it down pat now...

(SUPER GLUE)

MrBorland · November 5, 2009, 07:13 AM

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But even when I set it on top of the barrel flat, the coin often jumps up from the sudden shock of the hammer striking the frame.

Is that a sign of not griping hard enough???

Could be, but I'm able to vary my grip strength pretty widely when doing the standard drill. Generally like a firm handshake, though.

A gun that stacks through the pull, has a very strong letoff and/or lots of overtravel might be the cause, too. I don't think Smiths are generally known for a lot of stack, though.

The movement of trigger finger must be smooth to the end, and - this is important - divorced from the rest of the hand. Be especially sure you're not suddenly "milking" the grip when the trigger breaks. If this is the problem, it'd be worth using the coin drill to work on it, as it's a real accuracy killer.

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Uhhh some good smithing on the trigger I think???

Nope. It's a bone stock 65-5. It does have a nice action, though. Give it a try!

darkgael · November 5, 2009, 07:22 AM

MrB: Thank you. That video was very cool. I'm not sure that I could get past the balance the coin part.
Very nice.
Pete

deputy tom · November 5, 2009, 04:00 PM

Great twist on the coin drill and very good first video too! tom.

MrBorland · November 7, 2009, 10:10 AM

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If you can snap that without the nickel falling you are good.... but I'd have to see it

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I think I'd be God. The sudden release of the sear and/or the hammer hit should certainly make it impossible to keep the coin there on edge.

Well, I still think the hard hammer strike of a stock revolver would make it nearly impossible to keep the nickel balanced through a complete trigger pull, but it is possible to snap it using a revolver rendered DAO. Here, I'm using my "Carmonized" 4" 686.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmy5mkjpUNI

Thanks for all your input!

October 30, 2009, 04:18 PM	#1
MrBorland Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2007 Posts: 479	Coin-on-the-Barrel-Drill - A variant I posted a version of this on THR a little earlier. Wheelgunners in general seem to like (or at least recommend for others) the ol' "balance the coin on the barrel" dry fire drill to help develop a smooth DA pull. But here's a variant you may not have seen yet. You revolver shooters may get a kick out of this one: The Set: Settling down: The Pull: A disclaimer: These are pics of a dry fire drill. Yes, my finger is on the trigger. I scrupulously adhere to the Four Rules when handling any firearm, live or dry fire, and the Four Rules were adhered to here as well. The gun was triple-checked before starting, muzzle always pointed in a safe direction, and finger off the trigger until I and the gun were positioned and ready to begin.

October 30, 2009, 04:31 PM	#2
Dragon55 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 592	Dude.... If you can snap that without the nickel falling you are good.... but I'd have to see it __________________ sailing ... A way to spend lots of money and go real S L O W

October 30, 2009, 08:13 PM	#4
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 550	is that a 64 or a 65? __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

October 31, 2009, 05:07 PM	#6
Renfield Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: just down the street Posts: 550	nice, who doesn't like a good S&W 65? __________________ "Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest" Benjamin Franklin "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King, Jr. "Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

October 31, 2009, 10:33 PM	#7
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Tin Foil Alley with a Swamp Goddess in sunny FLA Posts: 1,039	Oh boy, will it ever end? __________________ *NRA Life Member* "If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy" James Madison

October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM	#3
nutty ned Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2006 Posts: 618	We need a viedo of that.

November 4, 2009, 05:06 PM	#9
Dragon55 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 592	Well.... You didn't snap it but hey KUDOS!! I cannot do that.... Uhhh some good smithing on the trigger I think??? __________________ sailing ... A way to spend lots of money and go real S L O W

November 4, 2009, 07:34 PM	#10
Gary in Pennsylvania Member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Posts: 25	WOW! I'm impressed!!!!

November 4, 2009, 07:55 PM	#11
Bigjim3 Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 213	Im very impressed. Think you could loan me a nickle??? __________________ Jesus according to Luke:22:36: Then said he unto them, ,,,,,, and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one......... Thomas Jefferson: "No man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

November 4, 2009, 09:17 PM	#13
Bigjim3 Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 213	Ive got it down pat now... (SUPER GLUE) __________________ Jesus according to Luke:22:36: Then said he unto them, ,,,,,, and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one......... Thomas Jefferson: "No man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

November 5, 2009, 07:22 AM	#15
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 1,995	Cool. MrB: Thank you. That video was very cool. I'm not sure that I could get past the balance the coin part. Very nice. Pete __________________ "Only hunting and mountain climbing are sports. The rest are just games."

November 5, 2009, 04:00 PM	#16
deputy tom Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: pgh.pa.u.s.a. Posts: 592	Great twist on the coin drill and very good first video too! tom. __________________ N.R.A.LIFE MEMBER Thank Goodness we're back on line. An end will come on the world, but love and music will endure. Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol. Old Scottish Gaelic proverb