9 MM Mauser Export

Unique · January 29, 2022, 11:39 PM

Buddy got a broom handle and never loaded for it yet and can’t hardly find brass for it.
Is there and cases close to this caliber that can form to this to shoot and what about dies, could a 9 MM die work or not really.
Really need some input from someone who knows, thanks

Jim Watson · January 30, 2022, 12:19 AM

Buffalo Arms has 9mm Mauser, trimmed back from 9mm Win Mag
https://www.buffaloarms.com/9mm-maus...serpistol.html

They have rather expensive dies
https://www.buffaloarms.com/9mm-maus...serpistol.html

I'd try more common 9x23 dies if 9mm P didnt work.

Unique · January 30, 2022, 12:30 AM

So, are those castings you posted Jim Watson, are those the same for the 9MM Mauser Export ? Asking because I have no idea.
And that second link you posted goes to the same casings. Doesn’t show the dies.

Jim Watson · January 30, 2022, 12:54 AM

Yes, 9mm Mauser Pistol is the same as 9mm Mauser Export.

Sorry, I was trying to post off the iPad. Here are their dies.
https://www.buffaloarms.com/9mm-maus...9mmmauser.html

Hmm, 9x23 dies are not as common as I thought.

I would lube some cases and feed them into a 9mm P sizing die and see what happened.

I haven't got a source for loading data, it is not even in Cartridges of the World.
Some say to start with .38 Auto, 9mm Largo, or .38 Super data.

Treat it gently, it is a very scarce item.

Unique · January 30, 2022, 01:27 AM

You said you’d load them in a 9 MM P sizing die , just exactly what you referring a 9 MM P die is exactly.
A regular 9 MM die or…?
And those casings you showed me are 9MM WIN MAG.
Is that the exact same as a 9MM Mauser Export or will I have to cut them down ?

74A95 · January 30, 2022, 02:08 AM

he probably means 9mmP as 9mm parabellum, aka 9mm Luger.

Some information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9...user#Reloading

74A95 · January 30, 2022, 02:10 AM

Here's the specs for 9mm Mauser;
https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/td...-mauser-en.pdf

Jim Watson · January 30, 2022, 10:14 AM

Quote:

You said you’d load them in a 9 MM P sizing die , just exactly what you referring a 9 MM P die is exactly.
A regular 9 MM die or…?
And those casings you showed me are 9MM WIN MAG.
Is that the exact same as a 9MM Mauser Export or will I have to cut them down ?

Yes, 9mm P is 9mm Parabellum, 9mm Luger, 9mm NATO, etc. "regular" 9mm.

The cases I showed from Buffalo Arms are already cut off to the proper length.

I did a good bit of searching and found several references to loading the longer 9mms like 9x21 Italian, 9x23 Largo and Winchester, and 9x25 Mauser with "regular 9mm" dies.

I repeat, be careful. I do not think this is a good gun to learn how to reload on, it is rare and valuable.

Unique · January 30, 2022, 10:40 AM

Thank you for all the info.
This gun actually belongs to my dentist , which is a reloader though I don’t know how long and I’ve been loading around 30 years. I’ve just never played around with a caliber like this and yes, it’s a really expensive handgun but he bought it to shoot it and I told him I’d try and help him out. Thanks for everything

Unkl Chuck · February 25, 2022, 04:06 PM

Just came across this thread and 'Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions' was handy. it says to start with a 9mm Win Mag case, trim to length, chamfer, and size with 'proper die' or 'reduce case mouth with a 38Spl sizer.
Good luck.

January 29, 2022, 11:39 PM	#1
Unique Member Join Date: May 22, 2017 Location: Central Texas Posts: 74	9 MM Mauser Export Buddy got a broom handle and never loaded for it yet and can’t hardly find brass for it. Is there and cases close to this caliber that can form to this to shoot and what about dies, could a 9 MM die work or not really. Really need some input from someone who knows, thanks Last edited by Unique; January 30, 2022 at 10:55 AM.

January 30, 2022, 12:54 AM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,620	Yes, 9mm Mauser Pistol is the same as 9mm Mauser Export. Sorry, I was trying to post off the iPad. Here are their dies. https://www.buffaloarms.com/9mm-maus...9mmmauser.html Hmm, 9x23 dies are not as common as I thought. I would lube some cases and feed them into a 9mm P sizing die and see what happened. I haven't got a source for loading data, it is not even in Cartridges of the World. Some say to start with .38 Auto, 9mm Largo, or .38 Super data. Treat it gently, it is a very scarce item. Last edited by Jim Watson; January 30, 2022 at 01:04 AM.

January 30, 2022, 12:19 AM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,620	Buffalo Arms has 9mm Mauser, trimmed back from 9mm Win Mag https://www.buffaloarms.com/9mm-maus...serpistol.html They have rather expensive dies https://www.buffaloarms.com/9mm-maus...serpistol.html I'd try more common 9x23 dies if 9mm P didnt work.

January 30, 2022, 12:30 AM	#3
Unique Member Join Date: May 22, 2017 Location: Central Texas Posts: 74	So, are those castings you posted Jim Watson, are those the same for the 9MM Mauser Export ? Asking because I have no idea. And that second link you posted goes to the same casings. Doesn’t show the dies.

January 30, 2022, 01:27 AM	#5
Unique Member Join Date: May 22, 2017 Location: Central Texas Posts: 74	You said you’d load them in a 9 MM P sizing die , just exactly what you referring a 9 MM P die is exactly. A regular 9 MM die or…? And those casings you showed me are 9MM WIN MAG. Is that the exact same as a 9MM Mauser Export or will I have to cut them down ?

January 30, 2022, 02:08 AM	#6
74A95 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Posts: 1,576	he probably means 9mmP as 9mm parabellum, aka 9mm Luger. Some information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9...user#Reloading

January 30, 2022, 02:10 AM	#7
74A95 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Posts: 1,576	Here's the specs for 9mm Mauser; https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/td...-mauser-en.pdf

January 30, 2022, 10:40 AM	#9
Unique Member Join Date: May 22, 2017 Location: Central Texas Posts: 74	Thank you for all the info. This gun actually belongs to my dentist , which is a reloader though I don’t know how long and I’ve been loading around 30 years. I’ve just never played around with a caliber like this and yes, it’s a really expensive handgun but he bought it to shoot it and I told him I’d try and help him out. Thanks for everything

February 25, 2022, 04:06 PM	#10
Unkl Chuck Member Join Date: December 21, 2012 Location: south of the piney woods,TX Posts: 64	Just came across this thread and 'Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions' was handy. it says to start with a 9mm Win Mag case, trim to length, chamfer, and size with 'proper die' or 'reduce case mouth with a 38Spl sizer. Good luck.