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April 21, 2024, 02:50 PM | #1 |
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Handguns with slide fins?
I love HK VP9 primarily for one feature, its slide fins, which make racking the slide so much easier.
I do not see the same thing on other HK handguns. I wonder if any other handguns have this feature? |
April 21, 2024, 03:58 PM | #2 |
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The S&W EZ series are set up that way.
There are a couple of companies who make an aftermarket accessory for Glocks that performs the same function. I believe Ruger makes a few pistols with what they call their "Lite Rack" system which includes a feature kind of like what you see on the VP9. Not exactly what you're asking for, but some pistols with slide mounted decockers/safeties offer a similar sort of feature in that the safety/decocker levers can help provide a grip when racking the slide. The downside is, of course, the levers may be manipulated during the action, leaving the gun in an uncertain state.
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April 22, 2024, 08:54 AM | #3 |
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"Slide fins" aren't needed if you use a better technique to grasp the slide. And by better I mean one where you apply more of your habd to the sllide than one finger and thumb.
IMO, the "Pinch" (using the thumb and side of first finger) to slingshot the slide is not the best way to rack a slide.....and that's the technique that these fins/wings/ears cater to. For pistols that don't have a slide, like the Ruger Mark I/II/III/IV, the bolt has grasping ears and no slide to grab onto, just the small ears on the bolt. There are numerous aftermarket devices that can attach to pistol slides and while most are specifically intended for competition shooting I see almost none on pistols intended for carry. Here's a good video on different techniques for racking the slide. I've watched it about a thousand times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwF7-kcW62M
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April 22, 2024, 08:27 PM | #4 |
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Very interesting. I didn't know that's the correct way of racking a slide.
For those who want to watch the Youtube video, you can skip the first 2 minutes. |
April 22, 2024, 11:12 PM | #5 |
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OK, since nobody else has said it...........
Fish have fins, auto pistols have cocking serrations. |
April 22, 2024, 11:15 PM | #6 |
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What he's talking about is not cocking serrations, they are protrusions that stick out beyond the normal serrations. I don't know what the correct term for them is.
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On the S&W EZ, the feature is less pronounced and monolithic/machined/formed into the slide but quite effective in reducing the grip force needed to manipulate the slide. Of course this is in combination with the rest of the EZ design (springs and fitment). Edit: Also ran across this discussion/demo by Tactical Hyve of various racking techniques used in competition. The pros & cons he mentions are not exhaustive, but I think he does make some good points - especially the one about making sure to practice. How to Rack Your Pistol Slide - Different Methods Discussed
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April 23, 2024, 04:53 PM | #10 |
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Bingo. Finally, we know the official name of this thing.
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April 24, 2024, 07:34 PM | #11 |
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OK
Alright....oversized cocking serrations.
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April 24, 2024, 10:05 PM | #12 |
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Or slide rackers for slides like Canik that come with a threaded hole
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April 25, 2024, 02:36 AM | #13 |
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I am familiar with the term "ears" not certain what you mean by "fins".
We can run a multi page thread about the "best" way to work the action of a semi auto pistol. What works for some guns is not possible with some others. I have a couple of semi autos where the only way to operate them is to use the ears. And some others that you use the toggle knobs. Different designs require different methods for best efficiency.
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