Masked Cop with M4 stopping van (pic)

ballistic gelatin · October 11, 2002, 04:03 PM

A guy with a mask and a .223 hunting another "masked" man with a .223. If I saw a guy with a mask and an M4 standing in the street, I would get very uneasy. Where is his uniform?

lgm_rambone · October 11, 2002, 04:05 PM

I find that repugnant.

Country Boy · October 11, 2002, 04:08 PM

Where's his jacket that says POLICE in big letters? You better believe I wouldn't be pulling my vehicle over if he was flagging me down. Looks like something from the West Bank.

Southla1 · October 11, 2002, 04:09 PM

Masked cop?

I'd flat run over his ass! There is no excuse for that at all!

If I'd catch him in my yard I would open up on him no questions asked!

At the very least his face BETTER be uncovered and a BADGE in plain sight....................this is the mentality that some police have now......................they think they are God...................not all mind you most are great guys doing a great job but some of them are JBT's Period.

Hemicuda · October 11, 2002, 04:12 PM

Can you say "I ran that bastard terrorist down in the street, and left himm dead in the road like the dog that he is"?

and then "oops, that was a COP? what was that assmonkey doing with a .223 Cal assault rifle, in the street with NO uniform? he appaeared to be a terrorist to ME!"

I knew you could...

now, one time, all together... "DUMBASS COP!"

priv8ter · October 11, 2002, 04:14 PM

At one point, CNN showed 3 or 4 guys with ski masks and EBR's standing on the side of the road. Not one of them had anything that identfied them as cops from what I could see on TV. They were in winter coats and blue jeans, and if they had badges on, they were pretty tiny. I was kind of taken aback. I mean, there were actual uniformed cops around, but...I see know reason for them not to all be in uniform.

cadfael · October 11, 2002, 04:14 PM

You can't see from that angle but his vest says POLICE in big letters on the front. Check CNN.com for other pics.

And there were plenty of state troopers in standard uniforms.

I'm just glad I didn't have to drive up 95 this morning.

Adam

OF · October 11, 2002, 04:16 PM

There was some video on FOX running that showed several balaclava-clad officers stopping cars. The ones I saw at least had identifying vests on. This guy is, as my grandfatther used to say, 'cruisin for a bruisin'.

The tough-guy masked-man [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] is reaching critical mass for me.

- Gabe

Kharn · October 11, 2002, 04:22 PM

Yeah, the masks are a little over the top, they arent storming a meth house or some place where they have to worry about a fire/explosion. With that said, the guys wearing masks could be the department's undercover officers called in to help, if they are seen on TV wearing a badge their careers are over.

Kharn

Southla1 · October 11, 2002, 04:22 PM

Hey my wife can sew real good..................no problem for her to make a jacket that says POLICE..................

I dont give a rats *** what his jacket says there is NO reason to be masked, and he better have a damn big badge!

ehenz · October 11, 2002, 04:25 PM

I was not aware they made kevlar masks like that.

But seriously, why the mask?

Jeets · October 11, 2002, 04:25 PM

...at least his finger is off the trigger.

ballistic gelatin · October 11, 2002, 04:25 PM

that photo came from here
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...fdn4.html&e=10

I think if you look real hard, you can see a badge on his vest. But anybody can buy a badge at a gun show, right?

ballistic gelatin · October 11, 2002, 04:28 PM

I figure he has a mask because he is an undercover officer. He has the M4 because he is a "specially trained" officer. Not just any old cop can grab an M4 and go to work you know. They have to qualify with the particular weapon.

cadfael · October 11, 2002, 04:28 PM

The only reason I can think of is that since they do not have a positive ID on the sniper its to put the perp ill at ease so that he's more likely to betray something through his mannerisms.

AndrewWalkowiak · October 11, 2002, 04:29 PM

They could be undercover or vice detectives hastily pressed into service, and needed to hide thier faces for that reason.

It's just an idle thought. And that is the only legit reason I can come up with. Otherwise, at least complete gear and identification should be worn if they're going to play "ninja"...

dog3 · October 11, 2002, 04:29 PM

Well,

I guess it finally begins.

Ausweiss Kontroll Bitte!

Tamara · October 11, 2002, 04:29 PM

I'm just dying to hear the tactical explanation for the balaclava and blue jeans.

He looks like a friggin' holdup artist and not a cop.

Fred Hansen · October 11, 2002, 04:33 PM

Doom!

Hkmp5sd · October 11, 2002, 04:37 PM

I wonder how long before the shooter figures out he would be a lot safer dressed in the same fashion. With a balaclava, "Police" jacket and an AR, he can walk around in plain sight.

Southla1 · October 11, 2002, 04:40 PM

Just a thought but Louisiana has a law against going masked.............only exception is during Mardi Gras..................I wonder if they think that if they were to go masked here they are above the law?

Undercover or not there is NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!

yankytrash · October 11, 2002, 04:49 PM

A close friend of mine is an undercover detective. He's masked during all job-related public confrontations like this, and understandably so if knew what was riding on that mask. His name was mentioned once in the newspaper in relation to a east coast-wide drug bust, and he's been living with death threats for the past few years because of it.

Nothing wrong with a mask as long they're hanging tight to the uniformed officers, in my opinion.

Come on by Virginia for a little while and do what we have to do, feel what we have to feel, put your kids on the schoolbus, and kiss them goodbye while your hands shake in the fear that that may be the last time you see them alive, because you're sending them into a shark-infested "gun-free" school zone to be killed. Only then will those "evil" masked men be a comfort. They're not there to give gun owners beef, they're there to kill a psycho.

MitchSchaft · October 11, 2002, 04:51 PM

Quote:

NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!

You seriously can't think of 1 reason why he would need a mask?

CZ Gunner · October 11, 2002, 04:51 PM

That screams "rogue nation" or "police state" to me. Someone walks up to me like that ... he better have air bags, cause I'm running over his ass.

Gunner

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Edited .. just read SouthLa's post:

"Just a thought but Louisiana has a law against going masked.............only exception is during Mardi Gras..................I wonder if they think that if they were to go masked here they are above the law?

Undercover or not there is NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!"

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Didn't realize that ... revving up my trucks engine even harder now!

Watch-Six · October 11, 2002, 04:52 PM

This mask business of BS! He ain't the Lone Ranger is he? Watch-Six

October 11, 2002, 04:08 PM	#3
Country Boy Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2000 Location: Northern Border Posts: 699	Where's his jacket that says POLICE in big letters? You better believe I wouldn't be pulling my vehicle over if he was flagging me down. Looks like something from the West Bank. __________________ Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. But he does subcontract.

October 11, 2002, 04:12 PM	#5
Hemicuda Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,757	Boys and Girls... Can you say "I ran that bastard terrorist down in the street, and left himm dead in the road like the dog that he is"? and then "oops, that was a COP? what was that assmonkey doing with a .223 Cal assault rifle, in the street with NO uniform? he appaeared to be a terrorist to ME!" I knew you could... now, one time, all together... "DUMBASS COP!" __________________ Hemi. gun and car collector. Rare cars, and rarer guns.

October 11, 2002, 04:14 PM	#6
priv8ter Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2002 Location: Silverdale, Wa Posts: 356	More than one At one point, CNN showed 3 or 4 guys with ski masks and EBR's standing on the side of the road. Not one of them had anything that identfied them as cops from what I could see on TV. They were in winter coats and blue jeans, and if they had badges on, they were pretty tiny. I was kind of taken aback. I mean, there were actual uniformed cops around, but...I see know reason for them not to all be in uniform. __________________ "Get a shot off fast. This upsets him long enough to make your second shot perfect" "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" -Lazerus Long

October 11, 2002, 04:25 PM	#12
Jeets Member Join Date: December 19, 2001 Posts: 53	...at least his finger is off the trigger. __________________ Save the whales. Harpoon Rosie!

October 11, 2002, 04:29 PM	#18
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	I'm just dying to hear the tactical explanation for the balaclava and blue jeans. He looks like a friggin' holdup artist and not a cop. __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

October 11, 2002, 04:05 PM	#2
lgm_rambone Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2002 Posts: 109	I find that repugnant.

October 11, 2002, 04:09 PM	#4
Southla1 Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 19, 2000 Location: Jeanerette, La. Near the Posts: 1,999	Masked cop? I'd flat run over his ass! There is no excuse for that at all! If I'd catch him in my yard I would open up on him no questions asked! At the very least his face BETTER be uncovered and a BADGE in plain sight....................this is the mentality that some police have now......................they think they are God...................not all mind you most are great guys doing a great job but some of them are JBT's Period.

October 11, 2002, 04:14 PM	#7
cadfael Junior Member Join Date: August 21, 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 12	You can't see from that angle but his vest says POLICE in big letters on the front. Check CNN.com for other pics. And there were plenty of state troopers in standard uniforms. I'm just glad I didn't have to drive up 95 this morning. Adam

October 11, 2002, 04:16 PM	#8
OF Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2000 Posts: 2,239	There was some video on FOX running that showed several balaclava-clad officers stopping cars. The ones I saw at least had identifying vests on. This guy is, as my grandfatther used to say, 'cruisin for a bruisin'. The tough-guy masked-man [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] is reaching critical mass for me. - Gabe

October 11, 2002, 04:22 PM	#9
Kharn Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,531	Yeah, the masks are a little over the top, they arent storming a meth house or some place where they have to worry about a fire/explosion. With that said, the guys wearing masks could be the department's undercover officers called in to help, if they are seen on TV wearing a badge their careers are over. Kharn

October 11, 2002, 04:25 PM	#11
ehenz Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 1999 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 308	I was not aware they made kevlar masks like that. But seriously, why the mask?

October 11, 2002, 04:25 PM	#13
ballistic gelatin Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2000 Location: Florida Posts: 392	that photo came from here http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...fdn4.html&e=10 I think if you look real hard, you can see a badge on his vest. But anybody can buy a badge at a gun show, right?

October 11, 2002, 04:28 PM	#14
ballistic gelatin Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2000 Location: Florida Posts: 392	I figure he has a mask because he is an undercover officer. He has the M4 because he is a "specially trained" officer. Not just any old cop can grab an M4 and go to work you know. They have to qualify with the particular weapon.

October 11, 2002, 04:29 PM	#16
AndrewWalkowiak Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 2001 Location: WI Posts: 191	They could be undercover or vice detectives hastily pressed into service, and needed to hide thier faces for that reason. It's just an idle thought. And that is the only legit reason I can come up with. Otherwise, at least complete gear and identification should be worn if they're going to play "ninja"...

October 11, 2002, 04:29 PM	#17
dog3 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 1999 Posts: 194	Well, I guess it finally begins. Ausweiss Kontroll Bitte!

October 11, 2002, 04:33 PM	#19
Fred Hansen Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: The middle of WWIII Posts: 3,335	Doom! __________________ "This started out as a documentary on gun violence in America, but the largest mass murder in our history was just committed -- without the use of a single gun! Not a single bullet fired! No bomb was set off, no missile was fired, no weapon (i.e., a device that was solely and specifically manufactured to kill humans) was used. A boxcutter! -- I can't stop thinking about this. A thousand gun control laws would not have prevented this massacre. What am I doing?" Michael Moore

October 11, 2002, 04:37 PM	#20
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	I wonder how long before the shooter figures out he would be a lot safer dressed in the same fashion. With a balaclava, "Police" jacket and an AR, he can walk around in plain sight. __________________ NRA Certified Instructor: Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Home Safety, Personal Protection, Range Safety Officer NRA Life Member

October 11, 2002, 04:40 PM	#21
Southla1 Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 19, 2000 Location: Jeanerette, La. Near the Posts: 1,999	Just a thought but Louisiana has a law against going masked.............only exception is during Mardi Gras..................I wonder if they think that if they were to go masked here they are above the law? Undercover or not there is NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!

October 11, 2002, 04:49 PM	#22
yankytrash Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Farnham, Va Posts: 2,183	A close friend of mine is an undercover detective. He's masked during all job-related public confrontations like this, and understandably so if knew what was riding on that mask. His name was mentioned once in the newspaper in relation to a east coast-wide drug bust, and he's been living with death threats for the past few years because of it. Nothing wrong with a mask as long they're hanging tight to the uniformed officers, in my opinion. Come on by Virginia for a little while and do what we have to do, feel what we have to feel, put your kids on the schoolbus, and kiss them goodbye while your hands shake in the fear that that may be the last time you see them alive, because you're sending them into a shark-infested "gun-free" school zone to be killed. Only then will those "evil" masked men be a comfort. They're not there to give gun owners beef, they're there to kill a psycho. __________________ Right turn, Clyde.

October 11, 2002, 04:51 PM	#24
CZ Gunner Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 799	That screams "rogue nation" or "police state" to me. Someone walks up to me like that ... he better have air bags, cause I'm running over his ass. Gunner ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Edited .. just read SouthLa's post: "Just a thought but Louisiana has a law against going masked.............only exception is during Mardi Gras..................I wonder if they think that if they were to go masked here they are above the law? Undercover or not there is NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Didn't realize that ... revving up my trucks engine even harder now! __________________ Gunner "Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." -- Vegitius, c. 375 AD

October 11, 2002, 04:52 PM	#25
Watch-Six Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2000 Location: Utah Posts: 654	This mask business of BS! He ain't the Lone Ranger is he? Watch-Six