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I like the Glock and I prefer DAO/striker fired triggers | 13 | 23.64% | |
I like the Glock but I prefer DA/SA triggers | 6 | 10.91% | |
I like the Glock but I like SA only triggers | 8 | 14.55% | |
I like the HK but I prefer DAO/striker fired triggers | 4 | 7.27% | |
I like the HK and I prefer DA/SA triggers | 19 | 34.55% | |
I like the HK and prefer SA only triggers | 5 | 9.09% | |
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September 26, 2006, 07:21 PM | #1 |
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Which trigger, glock or HK
In response to a discussion on another thread I'd like to take a poll.
Specifically, which trigger do you guys prefer. In answering this, don't take into account the overall platform, the caliber or anything like that. Just the trigger. Also, please list what kind of platform you prefer, specifically "I'm a DAO guy" or "I'm a DA/SA guy" or "I'm a SA guy". Remember, things like accuracy, reliability, barrels, bore axis, grip and stuff like that should not be a factor in your decision. Lets see what happens |
September 26, 2006, 09:21 PM | #2 |
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I like the GLOCK trigger.
Though all in all I prefer Single Action triggers in both pistols and rifles. (though my inventory may say otherwise...I still prefer SA triggers.)
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September 26, 2006, 11:06 PM | #3 |
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September 27, 2006, 02:03 PM | #4 |
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I never liked the trigger on my USP
I love the trigger on my PSP The Glock trigger is great |
September 27, 2006, 02:34 PM | #5 |
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I like having a consistent trigger pull from shot to shot without worrying about manual safeties. I think Glock's trigger is great since the weight is light and the reset is very short. I admit that I have little experience with many of the newer DAO triggers offered by the likes of H&K and Sig. From what I understand, the trigger pulls are much lighter than typical DA trigger pulls, but the pull is the same as that of a revolver in that the trigger must be allowed to go all the way forward to reset. In that case, I can guarantee that Glock's short reset will allow for faster follow up shots and (in my opinion) greater accuracy since there is a much shorter trigger travel with the Glock.
I love Sig's DA/SA trigger in single action (almost as good as many single action only triggers), but I don't like the long heavy DA pull. I often end up pulling the first shot and then have to reposition my finger for the shorter lighter SA pulls. The DA trigger pull is smooth, but I can fire much more quickly and accurately with my Glock. It just isn't practical, and some feel its actually dangerous to cock the hammer back before the first shot. In most cases, you won't have the time to do it.
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But what I also like is how quickly I can thumb the hammer back so my first shot is essentially SA. Only in the most dire emergency would I ever need to pull that trigger DA and then that trigger pull would likely be more of a frantic jerk of the finger and not an aimed shot. Kind of like that movie Tom Cruise stared in with the Homie guy.
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September 27, 2006, 03:41 PM | #7 | |
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While I agree it is very quick and easy to thumb the hammer back, many situations will not afford you the time to do so. I'm sure I could still hit my target if he was close enough with the longer heavier trigger pull, but it would not be as accurately as with mu Glock. The way I see it, each bullet that leaves the barrel of my gun could potentially end at least one person's life (more if you happen to hit the driver of a car and he hits other people or crashes killing the other occupants). I don't want to accidentally kill or cripple some kid for life because I pulled a shot wide. I know with sufficient practice, one can adjust to just about anything. Given that I only have a limited time to practice, I feel much more comfortable with my ability to draw, fire, and hit my target more quickly and accurately with my Glock than any other gun. That is why my Glock 26 has been my carry gun for over 5 years now. Don't get me wrong, I have guns that are much more accurate (Les Baer TR Special, STI Edge- not exactly a carry gun, an my Ruger GP-100), but those are for home defense and range use. My trusty little Glock goes with me everywhere else.
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September 28, 2006, 04:55 AM | #8 |
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Not owning an HK, I chose what I am familiar with:Glock. Specifically the set up with the minus connector and reduced power trigger spring. I find it to be fast and smooth. All my Glocks have this set up!!
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September 28, 2006, 06:01 AM | #9 |
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Funny how the poll seems to say that most prefer the DA/SA trigger yet so few can articulate why it is preferred. My unofficial poll over 14 years at work selling guns seems to indicate that people accept the harder longer DA pull followed by the lighter SA pull, because of the perceived increase in safety. People feel they can keep the gun ready for action without the evil light short trigger "worries". I fell for the same worries long ago.
Now I have figured out that light, short, and consistent is good. Light, short, and consistent is especially good under high stress situations. My Glocks won't win bullseye matches but under high stress and when fast & accurate fire is needed, it shines. Consistent shot to shot equals consistent hits. Simple as that. |
September 28, 2006, 06:25 AM | #10 |
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Have an HK. Been there. Done that. Eh.
Have Glock. Will conquer. Make mine a Glock.
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September 28, 2006, 09:03 AM | #11 | |
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You are going to have to tell me some time how you know the reason behind other peoples choices. As for preference, what does it really matter what the reason is. Is it not possible that a person likes a traditional trigger setup for the same reason they like black cars instead of red cars, just because? I have no doubt that some people don't like glocks because of the lack of any safety. However I also have no doubt that people don't like them because of the trigger, as currently identified by the poll. Not everyone has the same "worries" as you. |
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September 28, 2006, 11:45 AM | #12 |
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Color me confused
But why on earth would anyone want a DA/SA trigger unless they saw it as some additional (perceived) safety I saw a recent quote by proffesional trainers (LE/Military) that the only DA handguns they see in classes are those that are required by the students employers |
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September 28, 2006, 09:55 PM | #16 |
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There is a reason the 1911 and Glock rule combat competition. You can get a decent and consistent trigger pull from each under 3lbs.
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September 28, 2006, 10:43 PM | #17 | |
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Then there is also the issue of putting two trigger pulls on one pistol. Why? Learning and maintaining a good trigger pull can be difficult enough without having to learn two trigger pulls on the same pistol. This can be largely negated by the rare breed of DA/SA that will allow you to carry cocked and locked. I carried my USP Tactical cocked and locked exclussively. Never shot a single round through it DA...not one. But even there, the trigger was nothing to brag about. Not bad by DA/SA standards, but nothing noteworthy, even by Glock's standards.
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September 29, 2006, 08:24 AM | #18 |
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Don't forget about the DA/SA transition under stress. I don't mean only life and death stress either as competition effects me worst than others. Myself and severals friends and acquaintances noticed a low high pattern (in the first two shots) of hits on the target while shooting DA/SA weapons during competition that wasn't there with a DAO or SA guns. I was shooting a Beretta 92 at the time and when I started hammer down the first shot was always low and the second almost always very high. Subsequent rounds were well centered. This started us wondering why as it didn't happen in practice even at speed. We concluded that it was a phenomenon caused by stress. We figured that the brain, while on auto pilot, would give the same amount of pull needed for the first shot, to the second shot. I can only imagine how low and high they would be under life and death stress.
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September 30, 2006, 10:13 PM | #19 |
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I'm new to this and have tried a vast amount of F/A's before the purchase of my G23. I fell in love with the feel of the Glock trigger. I'm looking for another F/A (in a different caliber) I'm going Glock all the way.
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