extreme shock?

dreamweaver · October 1, 2009, 07:09 PM

I picked up a box of extreme shock .380 just out of curiosity. on the box it says "transfers 100% of its energy to the target through massive fragmentation. this violent fragmentation causes shock trauma, shutting down the central nervous system, resulting in instant stopping power."
sounds like a buch of poop to me.
anyone know about this ammo? anybody using frags for SD carry?

kayakersteve · October 1, 2009, 07:15 PM

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sounds like a buch of poop to me

That about summarizes it.

**44 AMP** · October 1, 2009, 08:25 PM

Ther spirit of PT Barnum is alive and well, and living in the add copy for that ammo!

troy_mclure · October 1, 2009, 08:56 PM

check out the box-o-truth on extreeme shock.

SPUSCG · October 1, 2009, 09:03 PM

I heard it can blow the head off a rhino at 50 yards.

Mello2u · October 1, 2009, 09:23 PM

It will shoot the moon from the sky.

spamanon · October 2, 2009, 12:26 AM

Enough said.

Venom1956 · October 2, 2009, 12:54 AM

dude seriously its THE premier round for anti terrorist operations inside airplanes! cause that happens everyday...

DT Guy · October 2, 2009, 01:30 AM

If it came with a black baklava in the box, I'd buy some in a minute-

Larry

Bill DeShivs · October 2, 2009, 02:10 AM

Baklava- the Greek pastry?

gyvel · October 2, 2009, 02:24 AM

Not that I'm any great believer in advertising, especially when it comes to guns and gun related items, but...

Has anyone actually had any experience with this round, or done any research on its effectivity?

troy_mclure · October 2, 2009, 02:27 AM

see my post on box o truth.

google it, im too lazy to post a link.

Double Naught Spy · October 2, 2009, 05:16 AM

Me too. Short of a personal guided tour, I'm too lazy to go look up your opinions on high priced garbage.

I think all ammo should be sold with pastries. If it came with baklava, then it was probably meant for the Greek market. If it came with donunts...

PBjafa · October 2, 2009, 05:30 AM

Thanks guys, this is the funniest thread i have read in a while,
haha.
(particularly liked the qreek pastry bit)

warman · October 2, 2009, 07:30 AM

I saw it at the gun shop. The gun guy said he carried it in his nightstand piece .357 so it wouldn't go through his walls.

He said that he shot it at 2x4 wood and it disintegrated and didn't penetrate, but when he shot it at a watermelon, it went through with a massive hole out the back.

I have never used it but I'm just saying that's what he told me.

Because he works at a gun shop doesn't that make him an authority?

(Ahhh, probably was a load of crap....):barf:

ChiefMuzz · October 2, 2009, 07:38 AM

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He said that he shot it at 2x4 wood and it disintegrated and didn't penetrate, but when he shot it at a watermelon, it went through with a massive hole out the back.

So....all the BG has to do is wear a wood suit and he should be well protected from the massive central nervous system damage caused by extreme shock.

wally626 · October 2, 2009, 07:46 AM

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm

The rounds mostly had low penetration in water jugs but one plugged in dry wall and made it thru several walls but still less than traditional JHP

Boarhunter · October 2, 2009, 10:35 AM

dreamweaver,

I have used it, and the ammo performed very well for me. I did not buy it based upon "ninja" advertising, but upon the recommendation of a buddy who himself had used it to his great satisfaction.

Some years back, I shot a 250-pound Russian Boar just behind the shoulder at approximately 20 yards with a 9mm fired from a Ruger SR9. The hog ran approximately 5 or 10 yards, as I recall, and fell over seriously dead. I first thought the hog had suffered a heart attack, because I could not find any entry hole. After hunting for it a good while, I found the hit, and the entry wound almost resembled what you would expect from an "ice pick" puncture.

When the hog was field dressed, it was apparent that the bullet had performed admirably. The hog's "innerds" were a complete mess. No exit wound. And I never found the bullet.

So, I have no comment on the marketing plan of the company, nor do I speak to the experience of others, but from my personal experience of the ammo, it worked well.

Boarhunter

koolminx · October 2, 2009, 10:47 AM

I like the test those boy's did in Wally's post. It was seriously putting pressure on those rounds, and they didn't really do what they said they did...

Delaware_Dan · October 2, 2009, 11:54 AM

Coudn't help myself.

Mikeyboy · October 2, 2009, 12:10 PM

I agree with Boarhunter, the marketing is downright horrible, but if you look at the box of truth test their Air Freedom rounds performed better than Glaser Safety Slugs.

My HD handgun usually has a frangable round in the pipe with the rest of the ammo being premium JHP. My theory is that first round has a high possibility of being a flyer, due to high stress, and a BG suddenly jumping into my field of view, at 3am when a minute ago I was dead asleep.

Even though I think the BOT test proves that the Air Freedom round penetrates walls less but still penetrates softer bodies filled with fluid just a wee bit more than Glaser, I still use Glaser. I don't want that ammo that is marketed for Mall Ninjas, being used to shoot a bad guy in my house, then having his attorney hold up the box to the jury when he is suing me. Glaser Safety Slugs just looks and sounds better then Extreme Shock with a the picture of the Ninja triplets (notice its all the same guy) on the box.

Probably the worst marketing blunder ever. Not a lot of people takes that ammo seriously.

GeauxTide · October 2, 2009, 12:36 PM

Let's see....380....Extreme Shock.........NAAAAHH! You only paid an extreme price.

CGSteve8718 · October 2, 2009, 12:52 PM

As superficial as it may be, I never tried, nor ever want to try it soley based on the description and the marketing. I just can't take a product seriously that believes itself to be serious with that kind of flair.

Cheaper than Dirt is advertising another brand of ammo that appears to be in the same vein as ES. It is called DRT, for Dead Right There. The packaging features female fantasy "agents" holding pistols Charlie Angels style.

Jart · October 2, 2009, 01:14 PM

If I'm going to buy extraordinarily high-priced ammo accompanied by credibility straining claims, I'll opt for the box with the picture of the Mandrell sisters over Tesla Ninjas any old day.

Besides, anyone that didn't sleep through "Introduction to Physics" would read this

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...turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.

and blow their beverage out their nose.

Though I guess the possibility of the ad copy itself causing neurological collapse to anyone attempting to understand it can not be totally dismissed.

That darned density mass - turn your back for one second and it turns into a rotational cone. So that's how they curved the bullets in Wanted?

NyTrillium? Wazzat? Didn't they mine that stuff on Battlestar Gallactica? No, that was Tylium. Oh well, it's probably in here somewhere.

PMI · October 2, 2009, 01:49 PM

maybe u have ta do a spinal cord shot with that ammo while the perp is standing infront of a mirror so he or she can see the entry wound for all that stuff to happen lmao

October 1, 2009, 07:09 PM	#1
dreamweaver Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Posts: 713	extreme shock? I picked up a box of extreme shock .380 just out of curiosity. on the box it says "transfers 100% of its energy to the target through massive fragmentation. this violent fragmentation causes shock trauma, shutting down the central nervous system, resulting in instant stopping power." sounds like a buch of poop to me. anyone know about this ammo? anybody using frags for SD carry?

October 1, 2009, 08:25 PM	#3
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,876	Ther spirit of PT Barnum is alive and well, and living in the add copy for that ammo! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 1, 2009, 08:56 PM	#4
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	check out the box-o-truth on extreeme shock. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

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SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	I heard it can blow the head off a rhino at 50 yards. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

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October 2, 2009, 12:54 AM	#8
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	dude seriously its THE premier round for anti terrorist operations inside airplanes! cause that happens everyday...

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Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,989	Baklava- the Greek pastry? __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

October 2, 2009, 02:24 AM	#11
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Not that I'm any great believer in advertising, especially when it comes to guns and gun related items, but... Has anyone actually had any experience with this round, or done any research on its effectivity?

October 2, 2009, 02:27 AM	#12
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	see my post on box o truth. google it, im too lazy to post a link. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

October 2, 2009, 05:16 AM	#13
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Me too. Short of a personal guided tour, I'm too lazy to go look up your opinions on high priced garbage. I think all ammo should be sold with pastries. If it came with baklava, then it was probably meant for the Greek market. If it came with donunts... __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

October 2, 2009, 05:30 AM	#14
PBjafa Member Join Date: August 13, 2009 Posts: 39	HAHA Thanks guys, this is the funniest thread i have read in a while, haha. (particularly liked the qreek pastry bit)

October 2, 2009, 07:30 AM	#15
warman Member Join Date: August 25, 2009 Posts: 52	I saw it at the gun shop. The gun guy said he carried it in his nightstand piece .357 so it wouldn't go through his walls. He said that he shot it at 2x4 wood and it disintegrated and didn't penetrate, but when he shot it at a watermelon, it went through with a massive hole out the back. I have never used it but I'm just saying that's what he told me. Because he works at a gun shop doesn't that make him an authority? (Ahhh, probably was a load of crap....):barf:

October 2, 2009, 07:46 AM	#17
wally626 Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Posts: 642	Box link http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm The rounds mostly had low penetration in water jugs but one plugged in dry wall and made it thru several walls but still less than traditional JHP Last edited by wally626; October 2, 2009 at 07:52 AM. Reason: Chnged last bullet type

October 2, 2009, 10:35 AM	#18
Boarhunter Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2005 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 526	dreamweaver, I have used it, and the ammo performed very well for me. I did not buy it based upon "ninja" advertising, but upon the recommendation of a buddy who himself had used it to his great satisfaction. Some years back, I shot a 250-pound Russian Boar just behind the shoulder at approximately 20 yards with a 9mm fired from a Ruger SR9. The hog ran approximately 5 or 10 yards, as I recall, and fell over seriously dead. I first thought the hog had suffered a heart attack, because I could not find any entry hole. After hunting for it a good while, I found the hit, and the entry wound almost resembled what you would expect from an "ice pick" puncture. When the hog was field dressed, it was apparent that the bullet had performed admirably. The hog's "innerds" were a complete mess. No exit wound. And I never found the bullet. So, I have no comment on the marketing plan of the company, nor do I speak to the experience of others, but from my personal experience of the ammo, it worked well. Boarhunter

October 2, 2009, 10:47 AM	#19
koolminx Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Posts: 520	I like the test those boy's did in Wally's post. It was seriously putting pressure on those rounds, and they didn't really do what they said they did...

October 2, 2009, 11:54 AM	#20
Delaware_Dan Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2008 Posts: 1,304	Coudn't help myself.

October 2, 2009, 12:10 PM	#21
Mikeyboy Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Posts: 1,231	I agree with Boarhunter, the marketing is downright horrible, but if you look at the box of truth test their Air Freedom rounds performed better than Glaser Safety Slugs. My HD handgun usually has a frangable round in the pipe with the rest of the ammo being premium JHP. My theory is that first round has a high possibility of being a flyer, due to high stress, and a BG suddenly jumping into my field of view, at 3am when a minute ago I was dead asleep. Even though I think the BOT test proves that the Air Freedom round penetrates walls less but still penetrates softer bodies filled with fluid just a wee bit more than Glaser, I still use Glaser. I don't want that ammo that is marketed for Mall Ninjas, being used to shoot a bad guy in my house, then having his attorney hold up the box to the jury when he is suing me. Glaser Safety Slugs just looks and sounds better then Extreme Shock with a the picture of the Ninja triplets (notice its all the same guy) on the box. Probably the worst marketing blunder ever. Not a lot of people takes that ammo seriously. Last edited by Mikeyboy; October 2, 2009 at 12:17 PM.

October 2, 2009, 12:36 PM	#22
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,426	Let's see....380....Extreme Shock.........NAAAAHH! You only paid an extreme price.

October 2, 2009, 12:52 PM	#23
CGSteve8718 Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2007 Posts: 798	As superficial as it may be, I never tried, nor ever want to try it soley based on the description and the marketing. I just can't take a product seriously that believes itself to be serious with that kind of flair. Cheaper than Dirt is advertising another brand of ammo that appears to be in the same vein as ES. It is called DRT, for Dead Right There. The packaging features female fantasy "agents" holding pistols Charlie Angels style. __________________ "You are fighting for what you can never obtain, and we defending what we mean never to part with." Thomas Paine

October 2, 2009, 01:49 PM	#25
PMI Junior Member Join Date: August 11, 2009 Location: st. louis Posts: 6	extreme shock ? maybe u have ta do a spinal cord shot with that ammo while the perp is standing infront of a mirror so he or she can see the entry wound for all that stuff to happen lmao