Re-make of an old poster (Carry!)

Oleg Volk · August 12, 2002, 05:30 PM

Wanted to update this image:

Not sure if this is an improvement...so comments and suggestions are welcome:

Jim V · August 12, 2002, 05:42 PM

I like the second poster much better. The size difference between teh two handguns is more apparent. With the first, if you can carry something as big as the S&W .22, why not carry a small S&W 9mm?

Tamara · August 12, 2002, 06:29 PM

...the second one, mostly because that is one slick looking 1911. Somebody would have to be just all ate up with good taste to own a swoopy V10 like that.

Blackhawk · August 12, 2002, 06:48 PM

Another vote for the 2nd poster over the first, but I'd like it even better if the 1911 was a bit more prominent, maybe moved up toward the top in the frame so the whole outline shows below the yellow banner.

I'd also prefer double quotes around "EXPECTING TROUBLE" over what's there now, but my real preference is nothing setting off EXPECTING TROUBLE.

MeekAndMild · August 12, 2002, 07:16 PM

I like number two better.

1) I agree the size differential is more apparant and the little .22 LOOKS like a mousegun.
2) The fuzzyness and distance of the .45 makes it clear it is not really there but the sharply focussed .22 is.
3) The red background for poster number one is vaguely alarming and distressing. Red is the color of blood and fear and not of confidence ans safety.
4) The yellow and black analogy to seatbelts is one which needs repetition.
5) The hand in number one adds surprisingly little interest.

OTOH I like the caption for number one better than number 2 because the little gun is plainly a .22. It is not ANY gun, it is a .22.

Libertarian · August 12, 2002, 08:49 PM

#2 is the better poster.

nsf003 · August 12, 2002, 09:12 PM

Great poster. The only thing that I can suggest is that the second line of the top quote is split by the barrel of the 22. Maybe move the barrel down so the quote is not split in the middle. It would be easier to read and would kind of "flow" better.

nsf

David Park · August 12, 2002, 09:21 PM

I also like the second poster much more than the first, but agree with some of the problems mentioned above. Perhaps a vertical layout would work better, so that the .22 would not poke into the yellow banner (or at least not interrupt the flow of the text -- maybe you could add those diagonal black caution stripes as a border?). Also, the .45 could be seen uncropped, but still faded into the background with the text over it. The cropping is the worst flaw IMHO, and even simply extending the current poster down to show the whole gun would be an improvement.

My 2 cents.

labgrade · August 12, 2002, 09:31 PM

Let me guess, Tamara ... that's your V10?

#2

Zander · August 12, 2002, 09:36 PM

Hmmm...

I'd rather reference 'insurance' myself since every adult with a decent IQ can relate to it.

To wit:

"People use seatbelts for inexpensive [cheap?] insurance against injury."

"People use [carry?] firearms [handguns?] for inexpensive insurance against criminals."

RE: the first pic...

Like the visual but would work on the contrast a bit; that reddish hue bothers me for some reason...can't say exactly why.

As usual, excellent work, my friend!

Johnny Guest · August 12, 2002, 09:38 PM

Perhaps the upper poster would be better if the .22 auto was replaced by the mini-revolver, and the background changed. . . .

Another vote for "normal quotation marks" as opposed to the <<whatever marks.>>

Best,
Johnny Guest

Miss Demeanors · August 12, 2002, 09:54 PM

Another vote for #2

Long Path · August 12, 2002, 10:05 PM

How about framing the bottem one with black and yellow stripes, a la old airmail letter envelopes?

I agree w/ David Park that the faded big gun works, but the cropping doesn't.

LoneStranger · August 12, 2002, 11:11 PM

I'm confused with the first line on the second poster.

"No one wears seat belts only when expecting an accident"

Would it work better like this?

"No one only wears seat belts when expecting an accident"

Otherwise they float my boat.

Let our edumicated brethern comment.

August 12, 2002, 05:30 PM	#1
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	Re-make of an old poster (Carry!) Wanted to update this image: Not sure if this is an improvement...so comments and suggestions are welcome: __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

August 12, 2002, 06:29 PM	#3
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	I like... ...the second one, mostly because that is one slick looking 1911. Somebody would have to be just all ate up with good taste to own a swoopy V10 like that. __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

August 12, 2002, 08:49 PM	#6
Libertarian Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 1999 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 2,117	#2 is the better poster. __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." JFK My other favorite forum is The Armed Citizen My PGP key is 0x780B7C0A

August 12, 2002, 09:12 PM	#7
nsf003 Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2002 Location: South Central PA Posts: 574	Great poster. The only thing that I can suggest is that the second line of the top quote is split by the barrel of the 22. Maybe move the barrel down so the quote is not split in the middle. It would be easier to read and would kind of "flow" better. nsf __________________ Christian, American, Heterosexual, Pro-gun Conservative. Any Questions? Molon Labe! Lets Roll!

August 12, 2002, 09:38 PM	#11
Johnny Guest Moderator in Memoriam Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,123	I think the second one is better. Perhaps the upper poster would be better if the .22 auto was replaced by the mini-revolver, and the background changed. . . . Another vote for "normal quotation marks" as opposed to the <<whatever marks.>> Best, Johnny Guest

August 12, 2002, 05:42 PM	#2
Jim V Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 1999 Location: SE Michigan - USA Posts: 4,038	I like the second poster much better. The size difference between teh two handguns is more apparent. With the first, if you can carry something as big as the S&W .22, why not carry a small S&W 9mm? __________________ *MOLON LABE* If it ain't metal, single stack & single action, it ain't a 1911 no matter what it looks like. 1911 Forum THE TUBBY CURMUDGEON

August 12, 2002, 06:48 PM	#4
Blackhawk Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2001 Posts: 5,040	Another vote for the 2nd poster over the first, but I'd like it even better if the 1911 was a bit more prominent, maybe moved up toward the top in the frame so the whole outline shows below the yellow banner. I'd also prefer double quotes around "EXPECTING TROUBLE" over what's there now, but my real preference is nothing setting off EXPECTING TROUBLE.

August 12, 2002, 07:16 PM	#5
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	I like number two better. 1) I agree the size differential is more apparant and the little .22 LOOKS like a mousegun. 2) The fuzzyness and distance of the .45 makes it clear it is not really there but the sharply focussed .22 is. 3) The red background for poster number one is vaguely alarming and distressing. Red is the color of blood and fear and not of confidence ans safety. 4) The yellow and black analogy to seatbelts is one which needs repetition. 5) The hand in number one adds surprisingly little interest. OTOH I like the caption for number one better than number 2 because the little gun is plainly a .22. It is not ANY gun, it is a .22.

August 12, 2002, 09:21 PM	#8
David Park Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2001 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,224	I also like the second poster much more than the first, but agree with some of the problems mentioned above. Perhaps a vertical layout would work better, so that the .22 would not poke into the yellow banner (or at least not interrupt the flow of the text -- maybe you could add those diagonal black caution stripes as a border?). Also, the .45 could be seen uncropped, but still faded into the background with the text over it. The cropping is the worst flaw IMHO, and even simply extending the current poster down to show the whole gun would be an improvement. My 2 cents.

August 12, 2002, 09:31 PM	#9
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	Let me guess, Tamara ... that's your V10? #2

August 12, 2002, 09:36 PM	#10
Zander Junior member Join Date: December 11, 2000 Location: Middle and East Tennessee, USA Posts: 2,059	Hmmm... I'd rather reference 'insurance' myself since every adult with a decent IQ can relate to it. To wit: "People use seatbelts for inexpensive [cheap?] insurance against injury." "People use [carry?] firearms [handguns?] for inexpensive insurance against criminals." RE: the first pic... Like the visual but would work on the contrast a bit; that reddish hue bothers me for some reason...can't say exactly why. As usual, excellent work, my friend!

August 12, 2002, 09:54 PM	#12
Miss Demeanors Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 1999 Location: Illannoy Posts: 1,382	Another vote for #2 __________________ [url="http://www.angelfire.com/il2/imconverted/il2/imconverted/Default.htm"]Sandys' RKBA Homepage (VERY OUTDATED LOL)

August 12, 2002, 10:05 PM	#13
Long Path Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: N. Texas Posts: 5,899	How about framing the bottem one with black and yellow stripes, a la old airmail letter envelopes? I agree w/ David Park that the faded big gun works, but the cropping doesn't. __________________ "Welcome to The Firing Line, a virtual community dedicated to the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership."T.F.L. Policy Page Will you, too, be one who stands in the gap? ____________

August 12, 2002, 11:11 PM	#14
LoneStranger Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2000 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 576	I'm confused with the first line on the second poster. "No one wears seat belts only when expecting an accident" Would it work better like this? "No one only wears seat belts when expecting an accident" Otherwise they float my boat. Let our edumicated brethern comment.