Ammoman deal?

mvdemarco · February 9, 2002, 06:33 PM

Eric the Ammoman has a new type of 9mm ball ammo listed on his site. It is listed as 9mm 115gr Norma ammo in battle packs. Anyone have any experiance with this type of ammo? Never heard of it, but the price is very attractive and I'm giving it serious thought. Need input.

Mike

sjg26 · February 9, 2002, 07:19 PM

I hear NORMA is respected in rifle/silhouette circles-never used it in pistol.

Beware the Berdan primers if you reload brass------I recall mention its not like Boxer primers and will give the brass collectors headaches.

But at $115/1000 thats a sweet deal..may get some myself.

mvdemarco · February 9, 2002, 07:22 PM

Just ordered 1000 rounds. No need to worry about reloading, I only do .45 and .357. For $115, I'm willing to try it!

GSB · February 9, 2002, 08:02 PM

I'd also be interested in field reports. I'm planning to place an order with ammoman shortly, and was intending to buy Federal. But if this stuff is good, I will rethink that.

mvdemarco · February 9, 2002, 08:31 PM

Will do GSB.

mvdemarco · February 9, 2002, 09:07 PM

I sent Eric an email 2 hours ago asking about this particular ammo and he has already gotten back to me and answered my questions. That is why I buy all my range ammo from him! I'll still post a range report.

Mike

Extremist · February 9, 2002, 09:38 PM

A good deal yes, but note that it is Berdan primed so it can't be reloaded. But, neither can CCI/Blazer, which can be had as low a $3.99/box ($80/case) here in Dallas at Academy Sports (I've heard, but not seen that Oshman's is beating that price at $3.79/box). I'd sure buy this stuff before I bought and shot Wolf or Big Bear Russian fodder.

For reloadable, Widener's has the Greek 124gr stuff for $122/1000 with free shipping at http://www.wideners.com/shopping/car...ls&item=GA9124

Ammoman is certainly good, I've bought a few cases from him.

Looking forward to the range report on the Norma stuff. They make an excellent 124gr +P 9mm load that I've never found, but some gun rags have used it to test and the P99 really likes it!

James

Johnny Rad · February 10, 2002, 10:21 AM

Anyone know if Academy Sports in Dallas or Oshman's ships ammo to out of state buyers?! Before I read Extremist's post, I thought $100/case was a great deal.

Extremist · February 10, 2002, 03:41 PM

Don't believe they do, but for a small handling fee....

James

P.S. Personally, I don't know how they are doing it, as from the brand new dealer price list I got from the Shot Show for CCI/Blazer, the WHOLESALE cost on 115gr FMJ Blazer is $6.91/box. But that's high, I know that Natchez frequently has it on sale for $4.99/box. But $3.99 a box! Incredible deal.

Extremist · February 10, 2002, 03:49 PM

Don't believe they do, but for a small handling fee....

James

Blackhawk · February 11, 2002, 12:22 AM

Norma is an old and highly respected Swedish firm that supplies the military as well as civilian markets. As far as I know, their stuff is top notch. The Berdan primer is actually better from a performance standpoint than a Boxer because of its multiple ignition plumes. Reloading would be a headache, though.

For fun, go to their website at http://www.norma.cc/ and click the ballistics link in the left column. It opens up a really slick JavaScript page that's quite educational about handgun and rifle ballistics. You can plug in numbers for your favorite load to see what its ballistic characteristics will be.

The two 9mm loads Norma lists are both for 123gr bullets, so I don't know what Eric's selling as far as current production goes. Since it's in "battle packs," it might be military surplus of an indeterminate age. I'd be inclined to try some from him, but I'm looking forward to your follow up report.

mvdemarco · February 24, 2002, 05:27 PM

The verdict is in on the Norma ammo. Very good stuff! As good of a range ammo as S&B, Winchester, American Eagle etc... Fired 100 rds. through a Ruger P89 today. No malfunctions, accurate, no smoke and alittle on the hot side. Would definitely recommend!

Mike

Blackhawk · February 24, 2002, 05:32 PM

Thanks, Mike!

Time to give Eric an order....

February 9, 2002, 06:33 PM	#1
mvdemarco Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2000 Posts: 163	Ammoman deal? Eric the Ammoman has a new type of 9mm ball ammo listed on his site. It is listed as 9mm 115gr Norma ammo in battle packs. Anyone have any experiance with this type of ammo? Never heard of it, but the price is very attractive and I'm giving it serious thought. Need input. Mike

February 9, 2002, 07:19 PM	#2
sjg26 Member Join Date: November 20, 1999 Location: PENNSYLVANIA Posts: 69	I hear NORMA is respected in rifle/silhouette circles-never used it in pistol. Beware the Berdan primers if you reload brass------I recall mention its not like Boxer primers and will give the brass collectors headaches. But at $115/1000 thats a sweet deal..may get some myself. __________________ REGARDS, sjg

February 9, 2002, 08:02 PM	#4
GSB Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 939	I'd also be interested in field reports. I'm planning to place an order with ammoman shortly, and was intending to buy Federal. But if this stuff is good, I will rethink that. __________________ GOA, NRA Life Member - "Freedom is not a 'loophole' "

February 9, 2002, 09:38 PM	#7
Extremist Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 275	A good deal yes, but note that it is Berdan primed so it can't be reloaded. But, neither can CCI/Blazer, which can be had as low a $3.99/box ($80/case) here in Dallas at Academy Sports (I've heard, but not seen that Oshman's is beating that price at $3.79/box). I'd sure buy this stuff before I bought and shot Wolf or Big Bear Russian fodder. For reloadable, Widener's has the Greek 124gr stuff for $122/1000 with free shipping at http://www.wideners.com/shopping/car...ls&item=GA9124 Ammoman is certainly good, I've bought a few cases from him. Looking forward to the range report on the Norma stuff. They make an excellent 124gr +P 9mm load that I've never found, but some gun rags have used it to test and the P99 really likes it! James __________________ DPS Certified CHL Instructor IDPA CSO, CDP/ESP/SSP/CCP/BUG EX, REV SS USPSA CRO, LIM-C, SS-C, CO-C, Certified Glock Armorer NRA H-R-S-HFS-RO, NRA Life Member, TSRA Member

February 10, 2002, 03:41 PM	#9
Extremist Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 275	Don't believe they do, but for a small handling fee.... James P.S. Personally, I don't know how they are doing it, as from the brand new dealer price list I got from the Shot Show for CCI/Blazer, the WHOLESALE cost on 115gr FMJ Blazer is $6.91/box. But that's high, I know that Natchez frequently has it on sale for $4.99/box. But $3.99 a box! Incredible deal. __________________ DPS Certified CHL Instructor IDPA CSO, CDP/ESP/SSP/CCP/BUG EX, REV SS USPSA CRO, LIM-C, SS-C, CO-C, Certified Glock Armorer NRA H-R-S-HFS-RO, NRA Life Member, TSRA Member

February 9, 2002, 07:22 PM	#3
mvdemarco Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2000 Posts: 163	Just ordered 1000 rounds. No need to worry about reloading, I only do .45 and .357. For $115, I'm willing to try it!

February 9, 2002, 08:31 PM	#5
mvdemarco Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2000 Posts: 163	Will do GSB.

February 9, 2002, 09:07 PM	#6
mvdemarco Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2000 Posts: 163	I sent Eric an email 2 hours ago asking about this particular ammo and he has already gotten back to me and answered my questions. That is why I buy all my range ammo from him! I'll still post a range report. Mike

February 10, 2002, 10:21 AM	#8
Johnny Rad Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2001 Posts: 201	Anyone know if Academy Sports in Dallas or Oshman's ships ammo to out of state buyers?! Before I read Extremist's post, I thought $100/case was a great deal.

February 10, 2002, 03:49 PM	#10
Extremist Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 275	Don't believe they do, but for a small handling fee.... James __________________ DPS Certified CHL Instructor IDPA CSO, CDP/ESP/SSP/CCP/BUG EX, REV SS USPSA CRO, LIM-C, SS-C, CO-C, Certified Glock Armorer NRA H-R-S-HFS-RO, NRA Life Member, TSRA Member

February 11, 2002, 12:22 AM	#11
Blackhawk Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2001 Posts: 5,040	Norma is an old and highly respected Swedish firm that supplies the military as well as civilian markets. As far as I know, their stuff is top notch. The Berdan primer is actually better from a performance standpoint than a Boxer because of its multiple ignition plumes. Reloading would be a headache, though. For fun, go to their website at http://www.norma.cc/ and click the ballistics link in the left column. It opens up a really slick JavaScript page that's quite educational about handgun and rifle ballistics. You can plug in numbers for your favorite load to see what its ballistic characteristics will be. The two 9mm loads Norma lists are both for 123gr bullets, so I don't know what Eric's selling as far as current production goes. Since it's in "battle packs," it might be military surplus of an indeterminate age. I'd be inclined to try some from him, but I'm looking forward to your follow up report.

February 24, 2002, 05:27 PM	#12
mvdemarco Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2000 Posts: 163	The verdict is in on the Norma ammo. Very good stuff! As good of a range ammo as S&B, Winchester, American Eagle etc... Fired 100 rds. through a Ruger P89 today. No malfunctions, accurate, no smoke and alittle on the hot side. Would definitely recommend! Mike

February 24, 2002, 05:32 PM	#13
Blackhawk Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2001 Posts: 5,040	Thanks, Mike! Time to give Eric an order....