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Old April 19, 2005, 11:03 AM   #1
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ACLU smoking dope at border?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=43867


Seems the ACLU legal observers are lighting up at the border. Interesting.
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Old April 19, 2005, 11:26 AM   #2
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Apparently, the ACLU volunteers were also striking a blow for other civil liberties:

http://www.aclu.org/DrugPolicy/DrugPolicyMain.cfm

Double duty, so to speak.
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Old April 19, 2005, 11:29 AM   #3
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Caught in the Net: the Impact of Drug Policies on Women & Families
Of course the law is at fault for the destruction of women and families. It couldn't possibly be the abuse of drugs.
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Old April 20, 2005, 04:54 AM   #4
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Of course the law is at fault for the destruction of women and families. It couldn't possibly be the abuse of drugs.
Lessee, here.

The fact that under current US Federal law you can go to prison and get the law to ruin your life later - virtue of the criminal record - if you were caught with drugs in your possession...

The fact that the current law inflates drug prices by at least 1000%...

The fact that because drugs are illegal we are seeing people die from various impurities and similar stuff...

The fact that the current Prohibition is probably creating the same violence that the first one created...

The fact that RICO and similar anti-constitutional asset forfeiture laws often ruin people's lives and livelihood without even proving them guilty...

...yeah, have nothing to do with this War on Some Drugs thing.
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Old April 20, 2005, 04:56 AM   #5
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And before I forget - where exactly does the constitution, as limited by the 10th Amendment, allow the FedGov to ban one green ounce of marijuana?
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Old April 20, 2005, 05:09 AM   #6
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And before I forget - where exactly does the constitution, as limited by the 10th Amendment, allow the FedGov to ban one green ounce of marijuana?
Don't they slide it in under "interstate commerce"?
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Old April 20, 2005, 05:12 AM   #7
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Don't they slide it in under "interstate commerce"?
"They" possibly do, the question is, is there a legitimate authority which does not depend on twisting the Constitution like a wet T-shirt?
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Old April 20, 2005, 06:11 AM   #8
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"They" possibly do, the question is, is there a legitimate authority <snip>
Yep - they're better armed. Funny how that seems to happen over and over and over.....
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Old April 20, 2005, 08:55 AM   #9
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Yep - they're better armed. Funny how that seems to happen over and over and over.....
"I have a bigger gun." The excuse of robbers, terrorists, and government agents.
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Old April 20, 2005, 10:00 AM   #10
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And before I forget - where exactly does the constitution, as limited by the 10th Amendment, allow the FedGov to ban one green ounce of marijuana?
Nothing, although they claim the commerce clause allows them to. Regulation of substances like this properly falls to the state gov'ts under the police power reserved to them.
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