147 grain, HST Federal ammunition comments, reviews?????

Socrates · November 15, 2008, 06:05 PM

Hi
My local gunshop, Contra Costa Collectables is offering this ammo at 15 bucks a box, for 50. All I've been able to find is about 15" penetration, .70" or so expansion, and, fair velocity out of short barrels. Does anyone have a better value suggestion for ammunition for a Kahr PM 9?
Here is the Double Tap loadings, but they are 100%, or actually more if I buy a 1000 rounds, then the HST...

DoubleTap 9mm+P
115gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1415fps - 12.00" / .70"
124gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1310fps - 13.25" / .70"
147gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.00" / .66"

sholling · November 15, 2008, 07:07 PM

Value you as in save your life? It's on Doc's approved list for 4" pistols and it's what I keep in my 3.5" M&P9c. For a 3" barreled PM9 I'd use the "Gold Dot for short barrels". There isn't any reason to go through JHPs like candy. Break in the PM9 with 250rd FMJ, run 100 rounds of your favored carry fodder to prove reliability and then go back to shooting JHP for weekly practice.

Socrates · November 15, 2008, 07:13 PM

Sholling:
I'm after specific deals that I can either order on line, call, or go get in the Bay, or is that Gay, area?
We had Prop 8 protests all over town today, with a news helicopter to boot....
I'd like to go shooting tomorrow...

sholling · November 16, 2008, 12:04 AM

This is what I keep in my 9mms and where I get it. Your dealer is giving you a heck of a price.
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...low-point-ammo

This is what else I'd think about using in a PM9 but it's bloody expensive. I keep the equivalent in my PM40.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=216634

Socrates · November 16, 2008, 01:17 AM

Sholling:
Email me, and I can get you a VERY good price, like 12 bucks a box, for 1000 for the HST.

It is kind of cool that the cheapest ammo I can find to break in my PM is going to be Federal HST...

Shadi Khalil · November 16, 2008, 02:12 AM

I got a box of 50 not to long ago, but not any where near your price. I couldnt find anything wrong with it. I'm stilling trying to figure out out HST means....

Socrates · November 16, 2008, 02:35 AM

My understanding is it's over run for a police order...problem I have is Kali hasn't approved a semi-auto handgun this year. I'm trying to pick up a Dan Wesson Bobtail before it goes off the list in January, and, I won't to, unless I stop buying ammo..

IdahoG36 · November 16, 2008, 02:38 AM

I carry the Speer GoldDot 124 gr +P for short barrels. This stuff works well. Product # is- 23611

November 15, 2008, 06:05 PM	#1
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	147 grain, HST Federal ammunition comments, reviews????? Hi My local gunshop, Contra Costa Collectables is offering this ammo at 15 bucks a box, for 50. All I've been able to find is about 15" penetration, .70" or so expansion, and, fair velocity out of short barrels. Does anyone have a better value suggestion for ammunition for a Kahr PM 9? Here is the Double Tap loadings, but they are 100%, or actually more if I buy a 1000 rounds, then the HST... DoubleTap 9mm+P 115gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1415fps - 12.00" / .70" 124gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1310fps - 13.25" / .70" 147gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.00" / .66"

November 15, 2008, 07:07 PM	#2
sholling Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 1999 Location: Hemet (middle of nowhere) California Posts: 4,261	Value you as in save your life? It's on Doc's approved list for 4" pistols and it's what I keep in my 3.5" M&P9c. For a 3" barreled PM9 I'd use the "Gold Dot for short barrels". There isn't any reason to go through JHPs like candy. Break in the PM9 with 250rd FMJ, run 100 rounds of your favored carry fodder to prove reliability and then go back to shooting JHP for weekly practice. __________________ Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, California Rifle & Pistol Association, and the Second Amendment Foundation. Annual Member: Revolutionary War Veterans Association (Project Appleseed) and the Madison Society.

November 16, 2008, 12:04 AM	#4
sholling Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 1999 Location: Hemet (middle of nowhere) California Posts: 4,261	This is what I keep in my 9mms and where I get it. Your dealer is giving you a heck of a price. http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...low-point-ammo This is what else I'd think about using in a PM9 but it's bloody expensive. I keep the equivalent in my PM40. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=216634 __________________ Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, California Rifle & Pistol Association, and the Second Amendment Foundation. Annual Member: Revolutionary War Veterans Association (Project Appleseed) and the Madison Society. Last edited by sholling; November 16, 2008 at 12:12 AM.

November 15, 2008, 07:13 PM	#3
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	Sholling: I'm after specific deals that I can either order on line, call, or go get in the Bay, or is that Gay, area? We had Prop 8 protests all over town today, with a news helicopter to boot.... I'd like to go shooting tomorrow...

November 16, 2008, 01:17 AM	#5
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	Sholling: Email me, and I can get you a VERY good price, like 12 bucks a box, for 1000 for the HST. It is kind of cool that the cheapest ammo I can find to break in my PM is going to be Federal HST...

November 16, 2008, 02:12 AM	#6
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	I got a box of 50 not to long ago, but not any where near your price. I couldnt find anything wrong with it. I'm stilling trying to figure out out HST means....

November 16, 2008, 02:35 AM	#7
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	My understanding is it's over run for a police order...problem I have is Kali hasn't approved a semi-auto handgun this year. I'm trying to pick up a Dan Wesson Bobtail before it goes off the list in January, and, I won't to, unless I stop buying ammo..

November 16, 2008, 02:38 AM	#8
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	I carry the Speer GoldDot 124 gr +P for short barrels. This stuff works well. Product # is- 23611