Worst Handgun Myths/Fallacies - Page 8

kjdoski · June 14, 2007, 05:58 AM

I heard one of my favorites from a senior Army MP NCO last fall:

"We're going back to the .45 - I was part of the team doing the evaluation. The 45 is so much better than the 9mm, it's incredible. The muzzle blast from a 45 will knock a badguy down. The 45 is so powerful that if you hit someone in the foot, it will tear their whole leg off!"

Another one of my favorites:

"A 12 gauge is a room sweeper. Shoot once and everyone in the room will be knocked down. You don't even have to aim!"

After hearing this, I LOVE to have someone pattern their "riot gun" with buckshot at 10 yards...

Regards,

Kevin

Glenn E. Meyer · June 14, 2007, 06:34 AM

Repeating - two big guys told me that they shot a 1911 and it damned near tore their arms offs.

Southern_guy · June 14, 2007, 06:46 PM

"my other favorite gun myth is "gun free zones"
Trust me, they do exist. There is one at the schoolhouse 20 miles down the road. I'll send photos.

Cpl Nobbs · June 14, 2007, 07:54 PM

""my other favorite gun myth is "gun free zones"""

"Trust me, they do exist. There is one at the schoolhouse 20 miles down the road. I'll send photos."

guess I didn't make it clear. that they work is a myth.

(I'm currently involved with trying to get our local university to recognize CCW as is required by state law and be prohibited from enforcing there no firearms policy)

William Jesse Magnum · June 15, 2007, 05:06 AM

This fallacy (or is it really one) i hate the most... that people who own guns tend to be more hotheaded on the road and offensive.

what you guys think? do we really get more over-confident and aggressive when we carry to the point where we MAY somehow put it to wrong use?

my defense to this one is that the more I am trained to handle a serious defense tool is that the more i treat it with respect.

think it would be nice to put this on another thread.

Ocraknife · June 18, 2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

2) "Fanny packs just SCREAM 'gun'". Fanny packs may scream "awful fashion sense" or "I'm old" or "I am carrying my diabetes supplies" (one of our friends does this). The only people to whom it "screams" gun are other gunnies, and even then you're likely wrong.

Springmom

This is great!

CritRxDoc · June 18, 2007, 07:35 PM

My favorite is the "one shot stop". They are handguns. A handgun is a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun are high velocity weapons. The only one shot stop is a CNS hit.

jon_in_wv · June 19, 2007, 08:06 AM

I read a newspaper article about how criminals were coming into west virginia to buy guns (because of the lax gun control laws) and were selling them in Chicago and Minnesota in exchange for drugs. Hmmmm, aren't the gun laws FEDERAL!?!? You can't come in from out of state and legally buy handguns in West Virginia. Please.....:barf:

Cpl Nobbs · June 19, 2007, 10:24 AM

lets see. your a junkie. you drop oh, call it $500.00 on a handgun in WV, take it to Chicago and trade it for drugs?

someone needs to teach some basic economics or better creative writing.

pesta2 · June 19, 2007, 10:47 AM

I know a guy that traded a hangun for a truck door here in WV. Let's say the guy that got the door did better. The guy had me try to work on the handgun to see what was wrong. Lets just say it was a very poorly made nickel .38 S&W. I can not remember the manufacture. I looked it up in Blue Book and it was worth $25, since it did not work, $0. He wanted his truck door back I think.

Mat, not doormat · June 19, 2007, 01:16 PM

"RIIIIIIGGGGS!!! COP KILLERS!!!!!" :barf:

Or just about anything in a similar vein concerning body armor. "The AK47, the worlds deadliest assault weapon, fires a bullet that will tear right through a bullet proof vest. Who needs that much power?" Sorry folks, it's not because it's a super duper deadly assault weapon, it's because it's a rifle, not the pistols that most vests were designed to protect against. Even Grandad's old .30-30 will penetrate a pistol caliber rated vest.

.45-70 is obsolete
Colt SAA is a poor choice for CCW because it's too slow to shoot. It's slow to reload, not shoot.
Guys in movies waving around Condition Two 1911s, trying to threaten people. Like Tom Chaney told Baby Sis, "You have to cock it, first."
Because a caliber, or gun is old, it's ineffective. Witness the number of super duper ultra magnums around, doing the job that a .44-40 did a hundred years ago. Using optics and long point blank ranges to compensate for lack of skill.
Don't carry an M9, the goblin will just field strip it while it's still in your hand. Riiiight. He's toting a lorcin, but he's intimately familiar with Berettas. Uh huh.

There are others that bug me, but I think that's enough for now.

~~~Mat

June 14, 2007, 06:34 AM	#177
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Repeating - two big guys told me that they shot a 1911 and it damned near tore their arms offs. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

June 15, 2007, 05:06 AM	#180
William Jesse Magnum Member Join Date: April 11, 2007 Location: Manila Posts: 63	This fallacy (or is it really one) i hate the most... that people who own guns tend to be more hotheaded on the road and offensive. what you guys think? do we really get more over-confident and aggressive when we carry to the point where we MAY somehow put it to wrong use? my defense to this one is that the more I am trained to handle a serious defense tool is that the more i treat it with respect. think it would be nice to put this on another thread. __________________ BAN IGNORANCE, NOT GUNS!

June 18, 2007, 07:35 PM	#182
CritRxDoc Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 117	My favorite is the "one shot stop". They are handguns. A handgun is a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun are high velocity weapons. The only one shot stop is a CNS hit. __________________ G-17; G-20; G-23; G-26; GP-100; Sig 716; Colt 6940

June 19, 2007, 08:06 AM	#183
jon_in_wv Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2004 Posts: 670	I read a newspaper article about how criminals were coming into west virginia to buy guns (because of the lax gun control laws) and were selling them in Chicago and Minnesota in exchange for drugs. Hmmmm, aren't the gun laws FEDERAL!?!? You can't come in from out of state and legally buy handguns in West Virginia. Please.....:barf: __________________ Why has INTEGRITY become such a rare commodity?

June 19, 2007, 10:47 AM	#185
pesta2 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 1,682	I know a guy that traded a hangun for a truck door here in WV. Let's say the guy that got the door did better. The guy had me try to work on the handgun to see what was wrong. Lets just say it was a very poorly made nickel .38 S&W. I can not remember the manufacture. I looked it up in Blue Book and it was worth $25, since it did not work, $0. He wanted his truck door back I think. __________________ http://www.stevekonya.com

June 14, 2007, 05:58 AM	#176
kjdoski Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Near Tampa, FL Posts: 113	I heard one of my favorites from a senior Army MP NCO last fall: "We're going back to the .45 - I was part of the team doing the evaluation. The 45 is so much better than the 9mm, it's incredible. The muzzle blast from a 45 will knock a badguy down. The 45 is so powerful that if you hit someone in the foot, it will tear their whole leg off!" Another one of my favorites: "A 12 gauge is a room sweeper. Shoot once and everyone in the room will be knocked down. You don't even have to aim!" After hearing this, I LOVE to have someone pattern their "riot gun" with buckshot at 10 yards... Regards, Kevin

June 14, 2007, 06:46 PM	#178
Southern_guy Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 175	"my other favorite gun myth is "gun free zones" Trust me, they do exist. There is one at the schoolhouse 20 miles down the road. I'll send photos.

June 14, 2007, 07:54 PM	#179
Cpl Nobbs Member Join Date: February 1, 2007 Posts: 65	""my other favorite gun myth is "gun free zones""" "Trust me, they do exist. There is one at the schoolhouse 20 miles down the road. I'll send photos." guess I didn't make it clear. that they work is a myth. (I'm currently involved with trying to get our local university to recognize CCW as is required by state law and be prohibited from enforcing there no firearms policy)

June 19, 2007, 10:24 AM	#184
Cpl Nobbs Member Join Date: February 1, 2007 Posts: 65	lets see. your a junkie. you drop oh, call it $500.00 on a handgun in WV, take it to Chicago and trade it for drugs? someone needs to teach some basic economics or better creative writing.

June 19, 2007, 01:16 PM	#186
Mat, not doormat Member Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: Alger, OH Posts: 44	"RIIIIIIGGGGS!!! COP KILLERS!!!!!" :barf: Or just about anything in a similar vein concerning body armor. "The AK47, the worlds deadliest assault weapon, fires a bullet that will tear right through a bullet proof vest. Who needs that much power?" Sorry folks, it's not because it's a super duper deadly assault weapon, it's because it's a rifle, not the pistols that most vests were designed to protect against. Even Grandad's old .30-30 will penetrate a pistol caliber rated vest. .45-70 is obsolete Colt SAA is a poor choice for CCW because it's too slow to shoot. It's slow to reload, not shoot. Guys in movies waving around Condition Two 1911s, trying to threaten people. Like Tom Chaney told Baby Sis, "You have to cock it, first." Because a caliber, or gun is old, it's ineffective. Witness the number of super duper ultra magnums around, doing the job that a .44-40 did a hundred years ago. Using optics and long point blank ranges to compensate for lack of skill. Don't carry an M9, the goblin will just field strip it while it's still in your hand. Riiiight. He's toting a lorcin, but he's intimately familiar with Berettas. Uh huh. There are others that bug me, but I think that's enough for now. ~~~Mat __________________ THR refugee.