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November 28, 2006, 07:16 PM | #51 |
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I agree. Qualifying on a course even with a perfect score does not make one a rifleman. Maybe a certified apprentice! Kind of like being a journeyman plumber doesn't make one a master.
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November 28, 2006, 07:45 PM | #52 |
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Just to keep this going in
Edward429451, very well said indeed.
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November 28, 2006, 08:50 PM | #53 |
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I'd almost forgotten about Jeff Cooper's (RIP) quote on rifles, subjects and citizens... To me, that is very important - Hunting is fun, shooting cans in I'm lucky enough to be as close to -tINY |
November 28, 2006, 10:56 PM | #54 |
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I wouldn't even know where to begin in finding you as answer...
As to why
Just like a lot of you mentioned I grew up arounds guns. My Dad made sure that I had nothing but respect for a weapon. Handling a gun on my own was a sense of accomplishment and pride for me. It was through this that guns became a part of life. Ambition tends to bring out It's
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February 27, 2007, 01:19 PM | #55 |
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I spent about a hour reading this post.
I was not aware that there was such a post until one person invited me to read it. I'm not here to beat a dead horse and I did not make my name up because of this post. Out of all I would take it to church with me if I could. My goal in life was to find a gun that did it all. That instilled so much confidence in my shooting ability that I knew that all I had to do was point and shoot. No need to think about where I had I went through With all But it is not a deer caliber of gun and a person that hunts to eat would never carry it on a deer hunt. There has to be more of a challenge. I have a Savage Model 110 or it's likeness that was made about 1936. It had a 4x Weaver scope and a Williams mount that you could flip over to get access to What you would want to do that for I would never know. I made my reputation with that old gun. I could put 4 hand loaded 06' bullets in a 1 inch circle at 200 yards just as easy as you could do it with a .17 HRM. It wasn't a pretty gun, it didn't have any high power optics or even a good scope mount. It was just something that Savage should never stop making. A real nice trigger from A real rifleman does not remember He remembers Because Was it my fault or was it When you get to But shooting targets does not make you a rifleman. When Last edited by The Gamemaster; February 27, 2007 at 04:39 PM. |
February 27, 2007, 02:21 PM | #56 |
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A veritable one-man crusade, as it were...
Initiated by "Fred" of Fred's M14 stocks, some time ago. Others have since glommed onto
Fred lost all sorts of credibility with me (and others) when he drew Personally, I own many, many military-pattern guns that can be perceived as "better" than an AK, and did I go hunting every year. I've got all sorts of tools to do In other words, one needn't cast aspersion at Case in point: I won't call myself one of Fred's Illustrious Riflemen, but I can grab my (now ubiquitous) SLR-95 or even my icky-poo sidefolder SAR-1 and snap engage a 100-meter lifesize steel owl target while standing offhand, making it swing with a solid hit every round. I've been doing it for about 12 years now, often to entertain others who don't like Mikhail Kalashnikov's invention, more to keep myself sharp at taking accurate snap shots starting at 100 meters. I've also just retired from a 20+ year military career, where I qualified and carried variants of Does that make me one of Fred's vaunted Riflemen? Dunno, and don't really care. If Fred would just come out and say "Take a kid shooting", I believe it would be a lot more productive with respect to producing a new crop of "riflemen", vs. this whole "Appleseed" thing. I believe it was |
February 27, 2007, 05:01 PM | #57 |
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I'm still working on becoming a rifleman, not there as yet but I'm working on it!
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February 27, 2007, 06:41 PM | #58 |
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a rifle man is a person who is skilled with arifle and who lives buy it e.g. a soldier
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February 27, 2007, 11:03 PM | #59 |
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Well, now, Lane, I dunno 'bout that. I went to shooting a .22 rifle when I was seven and that was 65 years ago. Been pretty much useless ever since. I shot a Garand more before I went into
But I ain't a soldier no more, not since 1958. Art |
February 28, 2007, 02:38 PM | #60 |
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I don't think that Lane understands That's what I always think about when I hear "Rifleman".... That and a trick Win '92. -tINY |
May 29, 2007, 07:48 AM | #61 |
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Not sure if I'm breaking any rules of thread necromancy, but I was invited to come read and post, so I will.
By any of Then, I met a wonderful woman who brought me to this odd and wonderful land, where all of a sudden I was afforded more rights as a guest than I was as a citizen back "home". It's taken me a while, but I'm learning to embrace these freedoms, especially those that allow me to keep and bear arms in defence of those I care about. I'm self taught, with all But, every time I load and aim and fire my rifle (and its soon to be siblings), I'm aiming for something other than I've yet to hit what I'm aiming at. I lack consistency, I second guess myself and wait too long to shoot. I still cling to But..... I've met some goals and learned some things on I can put every round I aim and shoot into centre mass at 50yds, which while not I'm no longer surprised and hesitant at I can strip, clean and reassemble my chosen rifle without reference to anything but I've learned to love I've learned to appreciate I've learned that others view informed decision as to its place among us. Every time, I learn a little more and get a little better. I apply what I learn to I may never become a R/rifleman by any standards. But I will certainly become a better man for
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May 29, 2007, 12:09 PM | #62 |
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Congratulations NCLivingBrit!
It's always nice to see a person who likes guns and shooting suddenly be allowed to do so. A few tips on informal offhand shooting: With a rifle, align Picher |
May 29, 2007, 12:51 PM | #63 |
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I've already invested in a set of snap caps and have spent a few evenings in front of
Recoil I'm still working my way around. I put 100rds through my SKS Much obliged for Of course, being a glutton for punishment I am picking up a Mosin Nagant 91/30 tomorrow. Because obviously longer and more recoil is -just- what I need!
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May 29, 2007, 08:00 PM | #64 |
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There are riflemen and there are bench shooters.
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May 29, 2007, 08:14 PM | #65 |
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It reminds me of
Makes me miss that such things are not practiced nowadays with |
May 30, 2007, 10:32 AM | #66 |
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MythBuster: Contrary to popular belief, there are also a few of us who not only are "riflemen" and "bench shooters", but also pretty good handgun and shotgun shooters/hunters.
It's a matter of enjoying a lifetime sport and having Maine...the way shooting sports should be...well, maybe for 9 months out of Picher |
May 30, 2007, 02:48 PM | #67 |
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As long as one is addicted to
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Quote:
I agree with you as well MythBuster,,, but Different strokes for different folks guys... Please don't start flaming and get this killer thread locked,, it has lasted quite a while.. We're all on
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May 30, 2007, 09:00 PM | #69 |
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If you complete your objective with a rifle, to me you fit
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May 30, 2007, 10:05 PM | #70 |
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I started my grandsons shooting from
Some folks never make However, I still love to shoot rimfire benchrest, perhaps Picher |
May 31, 2007, 08:33 AM | #71 |
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I never said
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May 31, 2007, 02:47 PM | #72 |
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It's not surprising that many shooters never leave
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May 31, 2007, 05:24 PM | #73 |
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As a child, with my fathers coaching, i was a fair shot, comparable to
I stopped shooting regularly when i was a teen, and now have taken it back up after probably 10 years of only ocasional shooting. I'll probably never be a true rifleman, but i'd like to work on becoming one. I want to know how to do it. I see so much discussed on building rifles, loading ammuntion, scopes, bipods, etc. Something i wish was discussed more is Its been a long time since ive shot with iron sights, and thats my goal.. to become a good 200 yard shot using irons. I'll need a better rifle for I want to learn about different sight types, and correct sight pictures. I want to learn about how to use a sling, and Most people would answer this question by simply saying "Pratice!" but thats not |
May 31, 2007, 05:32 PM | #74 |
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Start by reading
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May 31, 2007, 08:26 PM | #75 |
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RedneckFur,, hit
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