Sig p225 and p228

MSPHUNTER · May 16, 2001, 09:34 PM

Has anyone had any experience with these handguns. How available are they to a not LEO. Info would be greatly appricated.

Gremlin · May 16, 2001, 10:27 PM

I was convinced that I NEEDED a P-228. Great looks, the right size, Sig reliability...

Until I held a P-225 in my hand.

No other Sig feels like the 225. It's a study in how to build a functional platform that combines sturdiness with ergonomics.

It's the finest single stack 9mm you can lay your hands on (a nod to the P7 fans here) for under a thousand bucks. Accurate, much more accurate than I am, reliable, a great feel, and all in a package that shouldn't cost you more than $500 NIB with a spare mag and night lites.

The 228 is nice but when you hold it, and you close your eyes, that wide butt doesn't feel all that different than a 3rd generation Smith or a Beretta. Gimme the thin one...

Jeff OTMG · May 16, 2001, 11:26 PM

I like the P225 so much that I bought another one.

blades67 · May 16, 2001, 11:47 PM

You just have to find a dealer with them in stock at a price you're willing to pay. There is no restriction of ownership.

Once you've got one you will wonder why you waited so long to get one.

taco · May 17, 2001, 12:05 AM

Great 9mm pistol... almost as good as my P7M8. I just wish I can get mine back from my little brother.

jar · May 17, 2001, 06:51 AM

The 228 contracts have been filled and they are starting to show up. I think the Firing Line has 228s in stock right now. See http://www.firinglineinc.com .

BUT...

the 225 is truly unbelievable. If you can get your hands on one it will become your favorite. As 'SARGE' says, "it's like pulling Excalibur from the stone".

Ala Dan · May 17, 2001, 11:30 AM

Greeting's Folk's;

Uhm; let's see where we are. You are asking for a comparison
of the Sig-Sauer P225 and P228, right? Both of these are very fine weapons; with the 225 being a single stack weapon,
as opposed to the 228's double stack capeability. As my friend, blades67 stated " there's no restriction on ownership", just finding either at the "right price" may be
a bit difficult. I own and shoot the P228 quite regularly;
and I find that it is every bit as accurate as the P226 9m/m, and a lot's better for carrying concealed. Also, hi-
cap magazines for the 228 are widely available. So the choice would ultimately come down to the cost factor. Prices
on these two great firearms generally run neck 'n neck;
with the more scarce P225 often demanding a little more
cash flow. Let us know upon which one you decide on!!!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.

EricM · May 17, 2001, 01:38 PM

My wife has a cop edition P228 with night sights. It's very comfortable and a great shooter. IMO it's kind of big and heavy for everday CCW. I don't have any experience with a P225.

E. BeauBeaux · May 17, 2001, 01:49 PM

I used a 225 as my off duty weapon. Can't say enough good about the 225. Purchased another a couple of weeks ago.

Incursion · May 17, 2001, 05:04 PM

The 225 has the best grip I've ever felt, and I own a HK P7M8.

Herr Walther · May 17, 2001, 08:27 PM

I owned a Sig-Sauer P225 and I really enjoyed it. The accuracy, reliability and the grip. Especially the grip.

However, for all of those that say this is the best egronomically designed single-stack 9mm haven't held or fired a Walther P5.

Now I know everyone's hands are not the same. But if you like the feel of the P225, you should also try the P5. Outstanding accuracy from a 3.5" barrel and 100% reliability
with all the brands I've shot. Not to mention the workmanship.

I would put these two 9mm's in a class by themselves. There simply is no finer German engineering on the planet. But you really should try the Walther.

Incursion · May 17, 2001, 08:43 PM

Note to self, try Walther P5.

Tecolote · May 17, 2001, 10:29 PM

Unless you're planning on shelling our $75+ for prebans or unless you really want a P228 bad, it doesn't make sense with postbans. It's just too big. The P225 is slightly thinner at the grips but all other dimensions are nearly identical. IMHO both are too big and heavy for 9mm carry tools.

The P225 is one of the best made SIG Sauers on the other hand. The slides fit tight to the frames and barrel lock up is extremely tight. The trigger pulls tend to be heavier and longer than the newer P228s, however.

Right now P225s are a bargain. If you look hard you can find a NIB K-Kote, Trijicons with two mags for around $500. NIB P228s with blued slide and standard sights sell for considerably more. If you can get a K-Kote P225 because corrosion resistance is better. Since as of this year P225s will be discontinued you can expect them to go up in price.

Watch-Six · May 18, 2001, 09:28 AM

The P228 and P225 are both great guns. If you like the feel of the 225, go for it. You will not be disappointed.

KnoxVol · May 18, 2001, 03:07 PM

Why are there no P225s listed on the http://www.sigarms.com/sigarmsweb/products.htm website?

Knox

opus1776 · May 19, 2001, 02:56 PM

KnoxVol,
Sig has stopped importing the P225 to the U.S. I believe the P239 is the replacement for the P225. ....

-opus

blades67 · May 19, 2001, 03:54 PM

SIG Arms has not stopped importing the P225, I saw a new P225 at Mesa Jewelry & Loan about three weeks ago.

The real downside to buying the P225 will be getting spare magazines. In many areas they are as common as hens teeth and can cost almost as much as the P228 13 round magazines. Deals can be found, you just have to be patient.

The 13 round magazines can be expensive if you're impulsive. I haven't paid more than 60$ (including shipping) for any of my P228 magazines. I also have a number of ten round magazines for IDPA use, but I've yet to use my P228 at a match. (I keep taking my P220.

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Tecolote · May 19, 2001, 08:58 PM

It's not a matter of SIG Arms not importing more P225s, it's a matter that SIG Sauer will stop manufacturing as of this year. The information comes straight from them.

I don't know where you are, but anyone asking for and anyone paying for a P225 mag what they would for a P228 preban mag is a fool.

There are a bunch of places you can get new P225 mags for under $40. Ivanhoe's Outlet sells new blued P225 mags for $32 and nickeled ones for $37. When I had my FFL check with a distribuitor he was told that there was no worry over P225 mags, just that one distribuitor had over 300 in stock. Check out http://www.ivanhoeoutlet.com/cgi-bin...=7879739_25229

PeterGunn · May 21, 2001, 12:50 PM

NAH!!!!!!

I picked up a P225 from Mike @ Precision Armory for less than 450.00.

You just need to shop around, but I will agree with Gremlin on his comments on the 225.

It is simply the finest single stack 9mm out there.

May 16, 2001, 10:27 PM	#2
Gremlin Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 1999 Location: Just left of center Posts: 544	I was convinced that I NEEDED a P-228. Great looks, the right size, Sig reliability... Until I held a P-225 in my hand. No other Sig feels like the 225. It's a study in how to build a functional platform that combines sturdiness with ergonomics. It's the finest single stack 9mm you can lay your hands on (a nod to the P7 fans here) for under a thousand bucks. Accurate, much more accurate than I am, reliable, a great feel, and all in a package that shouldn't cost you more than $500 NIB with a spare mag and night lites. The 228 is nice but when you hold it, and you close your eyes, that wide butt doesn't feel all that different than a 3rd generation Smith or a Beretta. Gimme the thin one... __________________ Take the long way home...

May 16, 2001, 11:47 PM	#4
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	You just have to find a dealer with them in stock at a price you're willing to pay. There is no restriction of ownership. Once you've got one you will wonder why you waited so long to get one. __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

May 17, 2001, 06:51 AM	#6
jar Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2001 Location: Deep South Texas Posts: 1,670	The 228 contracts have been filled and they are starting to show up. I think the Firing Line has 228s in stock right now. See http://www.firinglineinc.com . BUT... the 225 is truly unbelievable. If you can get your hands on one it will become your favorite. As 'SARGE' says, "it's like pulling Excalibur from the stone". __________________ To be vintage it's gotta be older than me!

May 17, 2001, 08:27 PM	#11
Herr Walther Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: A Place Worse than California Posts: 782	I owned a Sig-Sauer P225 and I really enjoyed it. The accuracy, reliability and the grip. Especially the grip. However, for all of those that say this is the best egronomically designed single-stack 9mm haven't held or fired a Walther P5. Now I know everyone's hands are not the same. But if you like the feel of the P225, you should also try the P5. Outstanding accuracy from a 3.5" barrel and 100% reliability with all the brands I've shot. Not to mention the workmanship. I would put these two 9mm's in a class by themselves. There simply is no finer German engineering on the planet. But you really should try the Walther. __________________ "It was people who upheld their duties to their office, the constitution, and the public by opposing Hitler who were called traitors" ------------------------------------- "...a historian asked what had happened to the German people for them to accept a criminal government. Unfortunately, nothing needed to happen. In nations across the world people accept government crime." ------------------------------------- "In democracies as well as dictatorships, subordinates illegally obey their rulers. Subordinates who remain true to their oaths of office by opposing their rulers are rare."

May 17, 2001, 10:29 PM	#13
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	Too big Unless you're planning on shelling our $75+ for prebans or unless you really want a P228 bad, it doesn't make sense with postbans. It's just too big. The P225 is slightly thinner at the grips but all other dimensions are nearly identical. IMHO both are too big and heavy for 9mm carry tools. The P225 is one of the best made SIG Sauers on the other hand. The slides fit tight to the frames and barrel lock up is extremely tight. The trigger pulls tend to be heavier and longer than the newer P228s, however. Right now P225s are a bargain. If you look hard you can find a NIB K-Kote, Trijicons with two mags for around $500. NIB P228s with blued slide and standard sights sell for considerably more. If you can get a K-Kote P225 because corrosion resistance is better. Since as of this year P225s will be discontinued you can expect them to go up in price. __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

May 16, 2001, 09:34 PM	#1
MSPHUNTER Senior Member Join Date: March 9, 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 119	Has anyone had any experience with these handguns. How available are they to a not LEO. Info would be greatly appricated.

May 16, 2001, 11:26 PM	#3
Jeff OTMG Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: OKC, OK & Austin, Tx Posts: 3,707	I like the P225 so much that I bought another one.

May 17, 2001, 12:05 AM	#5
taco Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2000 Location: USA Posts: 936	Great 9mm pistol... almost as good as my P7M8. I just wish I can get mine back from my little brother.

May 17, 2001, 11:30 AM	#7
Ala Dan Member in memoriam Join Date: August 13, 1999 Location: In The HOT, Humid, and Mu Posts: 6,116	Greeting's Folk's; Uhm; let's see where we are. You are asking for a comparison of the Sig-Sauer P225 and P228, right? Both of these are very fine weapons; with the 225 being a single stack weapon, as opposed to the 228's double stack capeability. As my friend, blades67 stated " there's no restriction on ownership", just finding either at the "right price" may be a bit difficult. I own and shoot the P228 quite regularly; and I find that it is every bit as accurate as the P226 9m/m, and a lot's better for carrying concealed. Also, hi- cap magazines for the 228 are widely available. So the choice would ultimately come down to the cost factor. Prices on these two great firearms generally run neck 'n neck; with the more scarce P225 often demanding a little more cash flow. Let us know upon which one you decide on!!! Best Wishes, Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.

May 17, 2001, 01:38 PM	#8
EricM Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2000 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,060	My wife has a cop edition P228 with night sights. It's very comfortable and a great shooter. IMO it's kind of big and heavy for everday CCW. I don't have any experience with a P225.

May 17, 2001, 01:49 PM	#9
E. BeauBeaux Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2000 Location: MS, CSA Posts: 377	I used a 225 as my off duty weapon. Can't say enough good about the 225. Purchased another a couple of weeks ago.

May 17, 2001, 05:04 PM	#10
Incursion Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Location: TX Posts: 803	The 225 has the best grip I've ever felt, and I own a HK P7M8.

May 17, 2001, 08:43 PM	#12
Incursion Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Location: TX Posts: 803	Note to self, try Walther P5.

May 18, 2001, 09:28 AM	#14
Watch-Six Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2000 Location: Utah Posts: 654	The P228 and P225 are both great guns. If you like the feel of the 225, go for it. You will not be disappointed.

May 18, 2001, 03:07 PM	#15
KnoxVol Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2001 Location: The Land of the Volunteers- A Shall issue State Posts: 203	Why are there no P225s listed on the http://www.sigarms.com/sigarmsweb/products.htm website? Knox

May 19, 2001, 02:56 PM	#16
opus1776 Member Join Date: August 27, 2000 Location: Whiteland, IN Posts: 20	KnoxVol, Sig has stopped importing the P225 to the U.S. I believe the P239 is the replacement for the P225. .... -opus

May 19, 2001, 03:54 PM	#17
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	SIG Arms has not stopped importing the P225, I saw a new P225 at Mesa Jewelry & Loan about three weeks ago. The real downside to buying the P225 will be getting spare magazines. In many areas they are as common as hens teeth and can cost almost as much as the P228 13 round magazines. Deals can be found, you just have to be patient. The 13 round magazines can be expensive if you're impulsive. I haven't paid more than 60$ (including shipping) for any of my P228 magazines. I also have a number of ten round magazines for IDPA use, but I've yet to use my P228 at a match. (I keep taking my P220.) __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

May 19, 2001, 08:58 PM	#18
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	Manufacturing It's not a matter of SIG Arms not importing more P225s, it's a matter that SIG Sauer will stop manufacturing as of this year. The information comes straight from them. I don't know where you are, but anyone asking for and anyone paying for a P225 mag what they would for a P228 preban mag is a fool. There are a bunch of places you can get new P225 mags for under $40. Ivanhoe's Outlet sells new blued P225 mags for $32 and nickeled ones for $37. When I had my FFL check with a distribuitor he was told that there was no worry over P225 mags, just that one distribuitor had over 300 in stock. Check out http://www.ivanhoeoutlet.com/cgi-bin...=7879739_25229 __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

May 21, 2001, 12:50 PM	#19
PeterGunn Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 738	225...expersive???? NAH!!!!!! I picked up a P225 from Mike @ Precision Armory for less than 450.00. You just need to shop around, but I will agree with Gremlin on his comments on the 225. It is simply the finest single stack 9mm out there. __________________ "By His stripes we are healed..." PeterGunn