Stupid question, gatling gun on private helicopter

BrassSlinger · July 26, 2008, 05:58 PM

Is there any way of legally installing a door gun on a privately owned helicopter? I would that be highly illegal?

It would be neat to have one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvS0YSHzJ9k

1goodshot · July 26, 2008, 06:09 PM

The guy who owns Dillion reloading has one.

Lavid2002 · July 26, 2008, 06:14 PM

Why? lol

BrassSlinger · July 26, 2008, 06:25 PM

Why own a desert eagle? Its not a carry pistol, its not well suited for home defense, its very unpractical but it is bad ass. Because having a helicopter gun ship would be bad ass. Own some land out in the desert and shoot at stuff.

Off of Dillons site
In a longer view, Dillon is working on several other projects. Most we will keep under our hat, but one interesting project is that we are now manufacturing an improved 7.62 NATO mini-gun. This is available to US State Department approved governments only, but it’s interesting that a company that traditionally provides progressive loading equipment is now involved with improving progressive UN-loading equipment.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/di...ion/3783168674

CraigC · July 26, 2008, 06:57 PM

I've wondered about that too, just for curiosity's sake. We know about the NFA regulations for owning machineguns and we know what it takes to fly a helicopter but are there special regulations for combining the two?

mniesen89 · July 26, 2008, 07:15 PM

Here in the state of Florida, brandishing a firearm is automaticaly 5 years.I wonder what you would get for brandishing a mini-gun on a heli??

AK103K · July 26, 2008, 07:40 PM

Whos brandishing? Thats "open carry".

TPAW · July 26, 2008, 07:58 PM

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Stupid question, gatling gun on private helicopter

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Is there any way of legally installing a door gun on a privately owned helicopter? I would that be highly illegal? It would be neat to have one of these

Join the Army and become a chopper door gunner. Three squares, clothes, a roof over your head, a salary, and all the ammo you can shoot.
Oh, forgot to mention it.........Sometimes people shoot back!

SilentHitz · July 26, 2008, 08:45 PM

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Oh, forgot to mention it.........Sometimes people shoot back!

There's always a catch aint it?

Great way to get trigger time on some nice weapons though.

guntotin_fool · July 26, 2008, 08:54 PM

The guy who owns Dillon also bought the rights to the 134 platform and is now the official manufacturer of miniguns to the US gov't He has them on a couple of helicopters for a variety of reasons.

One, he can, and he gets the tax payers to pay for a lot of it, because its a cost of doing business.

two, they use them for trials and for demo's.

Three. they train people on using them for people who are not directly attached to the US military.

hoytinak · July 26, 2008, 09:23 PM

For only 60 grand each have your LE department order one or two for you to play with.

http://www.autoweapons.com/photos05/mar/minigun.html

johnwilliamson062 · July 26, 2008, 09:37 PM

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all the ammo you can shoot.

What army are you in? IDF on a holiday? From talking to enlisted and officers there are huge restraints on their ammo. Join a merc... I mean private security group. Burn as much ammo as you can afford through any gun you can afford, get paid extremely well while not having to wait for snaps before firing. Of course you probably won't have medivac. Already 40,000 doing it in Iraq alone.

I really doubt this is illegal. I was acquainted with one of the original tuskegee airmen who had several WWII era fighters with MGs on them. He was pretty wealthy (one of the first black aero engineers), so that probably didn't hurt with the licensing.

**44 AMP** · July 27, 2008, 02:51 AM

But, like anything else, if you have the $ there are probably some legal loopholes you can take advantage of.

T. O'Heir · July 27, 2008, 03:33 AM

How much money do you have? Think in terms of 6 figures just for the aircraft. Upwards of 300 grand. Plus 15 to 60 grand for flight training. $450 to $600US for the books alone. Plus the cost of the gun and $200 tax.
"...The guy who owns Dillion reloading has one..." He got into the reloading business to pay for his toys. He's got an armed T-33, as I recall.

armoredman · July 27, 2008, 09:19 AM

I have been told thier are 26 fully armed AH1 Cobras in private hands, can't remember where I read that - Reader's Digest, I believe.

johnwilliamson062 · July 27, 2008, 04:45 PM

I know a hot airballoon pilot pretty well. I was once flying with him over a field with deer and thought man it would be great to have my muzzle loader up here. I thought about the gatling on a hot air balloon. That would be hilarious.

July 26, 2008, 05:58 PM	#1
BrassSlinger Member Join Date: April 22, 2008 Posts: 58	Stupid question, gatling gun on private helicopter Is there any way of legally installing a door gun on a privately owned helicopter? I would that be highly illegal? It would be neat to have one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvS0YSHzJ9k

July 26, 2008, 06:14 PM	#3
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Why? lol __________________ Math>Grammar

July 27, 2008, 02:51 AM	#13
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,872	The FAA really frowns on armed private aircraft But, like anything else, if you have the $ there are probably some legal loopholes you can take advantage of. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

July 27, 2008, 03:33 AM	#14
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	How much money do you have? Think in terms of 6 figures just for the aircraft. Upwards of 300 grand. Plus 15 to 60 grand for flight training. $450 to $600US for the books alone. Plus the cost of the gun and $200 tax. "...The guy who owns Dillion reloading has one..." He got into the reloading business to pay for his toys. He's got an armed T-33, as I recall. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

July 26, 2008, 06:09 PM	#2
1goodshot Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: chandler,az Posts: 929	The guy who owns Dillion reloading has one.

July 26, 2008, 06:25 PM	#4
BrassSlinger Member Join Date: April 22, 2008 Posts: 58	Why own a desert eagle? Its not a carry pistol, its not well suited for home defense, its very unpractical but it is bad ass. Because having a helicopter gun ship would be bad ass. Own some land out in the desert and shoot at stuff. Off of Dillons site In a longer view, Dillon is working on several other projects. Most we will keep under our hat, but one interesting project is that we are now manufacturing an improved 7.62 NATO mini-gun. This is available to US State Department approved governments only, but it’s interesting that a company that traditionally provides progressive loading equipment is now involved with improving progressive UN-loading equipment. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/di...ion/3783168674

July 26, 2008, 06:57 PM	#5
CraigC Junior member Join Date: November 28, 2001 Location: West Tennessee Posts: 4,300	I've wondered about that too, just for curiosity's sake. We know about the NFA regulations for owning machineguns and we know what it takes to fly a helicopter but are there special regulations for combining the two?

July 26, 2008, 07:15 PM	#6
mniesen89 Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2007 Location: deland,fl Posts: 238	Here in the state of Florida, brandishing a firearm is automaticaly 5 years.I wonder what you would get for brandishing a mini-gun on a heli??

July 26, 2008, 07:40 PM	#7
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Whos brandishing? Thats "open carry".

July 26, 2008, 08:54 PM	#10
guntotin_fool Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2004 Posts: 1,446	The guy who owns Dillon also bought the rights to the 134 platform and is now the official manufacturer of miniguns to the US gov't He has them on a couple of helicopters for a variety of reasons. One, he can, and he gets the tax payers to pay for a lot of it, because its a cost of doing business. two, they use them for trials and for demo's. Three. they train people on using them for people who are not directly attached to the US military.

July 26, 2008, 09:23 PM	#11
hoytinak Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,721	For only 60 grand each have your LE department order one or two for you to play with. http://www.autoweapons.com/photos05/mar/minigun.html

July 27, 2008, 09:19 AM	#15
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	I have been told thier are 26 fully armed AH1 Cobras in private hands, can't remember where I read that - Reader's Digest, I believe.

July 27, 2008, 04:45 PM	#16
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I know a hot airballoon pilot pretty well. I was once flying with him over a field with deer and thought man it would be great to have my muzzle loader up here. I thought about the gatling on a hot air balloon. That would be hilarious.