DA Trigger Reach

mukibetser · October 29, 2008, 04:01 PM

Hi. I own a CZ P-01. The reach for the trigger in DA mode is a bit long for my stubby index finger. I find myself needing to turn my hand slightly, which sort of screws up my grip. The reach in SA mode is perfect. Can the position of the trigger in DA mode be adjusted by a gunsmith so that my index finger can comfortably reach the trigger and the gun better "fits" my hand? Is that part of a standard "trigger job"? Thanks.

cens · October 29, 2008, 08:27 PM

mukibetser,

I had a P-01 briefly but had the same issue as you are having. I couldn't find a convenient, off-the-shelf solution. It is possible that a gunsmith could modify the trigger shape, but it may be more effort than it is worth.

Chris

varoadking · October 30, 2008, 05:23 AM

CZ's are known for having one of the longest and most uncomfortable trigger reach.

Aside from the initial DA pull, that's really the only negative, but certainly a significant one.

WESHOOT2 · October 30, 2008, 05:28 AM

Does this model allow for cocked-and-locked use?

If so, your "problem" is (so) solved.

Don P · October 30, 2008, 10:02 AM

Most probably this cannot be changed. From reading the Beretta forums many have asked the same question about the 92FS and the answer is because of DA/SA it's almost impossible to change the amount of travel of the trigger because of the fact of DA/SA. If reach is a problem than the pistol is too big for your hands or your hands are too small for the pistol

. Fact of life, no one pistol will fit everyones hand.

WESHOOT2 · October 30, 2008, 10:12 AM

My three EAA Witnesses, CZ clones all, allow for proper trigger reach when used correctly.
Just not in DA mode.

briang2ad · October 30, 2008, 11:13 AM

WELL - this goes to my endless observation of the P01. IF CZ pulled its head out of its FPOC, it would make ANOTHER model with a manual safety. The P01 is a GREAT gun with a significant flaw - it needs a manual safety. The manual safety does this:

- Appeals more to Americans
- Allows for two real modes of carry (you can manually decock safely - and its about as easy as the CZ decocker).
- Makes it MUCH easier to work on the gun
- Allows one to use a 'high thumb' hold
- Allows a PD officer to keep the weapon in a mode safer to him/her

Oh well....

mukibetser · October 30, 2008, 01:19 PM

thanks. that's what i was afraid of. since this is a range/fun gun, not really a big deal since I can cock the pistol before first shot. from the comments, i gather that a SA pistol with manual safety will be more friendly to my stubby index finger. good to know in case i ever get a carry permit, chances of which are virtually nil here in good 'ol New Jersey. I also have a 3" S&W J frame in .357, which fits my hand like a glove and would be my go to gun at home if needed.

JDG · October 30, 2008, 06:45 PM

Believe it or not, the P01 has a shorter trigger in DA than the old CZ75. Its not much shorter, but some can tell the difference. You can safely carry at the half cocked position, to shorten the pull. I installed a 17# hammer spring, and it helped a bunch

varoadking · October 30, 2008, 07:31 PM

Quote:

The manual safety...Appeals more to Americans

Not to this American...

October 29, 2008, 04:01 PM	#1
mukibetser Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2008 Posts: 225	DA Trigger Reach Hi. I own a CZ P-01. The reach for the trigger in DA mode is a bit long for my stubby index finger. I find myself needing to turn my hand slightly, which sort of screws up my grip. The reach in SA mode is perfect. Can the position of the trigger in DA mode be adjusted by a gunsmith so that my index finger can comfortably reach the trigger and the gun better "fits" my hand? Is that part of a standard "trigger job"? Thanks.

October 30, 2008, 05:28 AM	#4
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	I am confused Does this model allow for cocked-and-locked use? If so, your "problem" is (so) solved. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

October 30, 2008, 10:02 AM	#5
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	Trigger reach Most probably this cannot be changed. From reading the Beretta forums many have asked the same question about the 92FS and the answer is because of DA/SA it's almost impossible to change the amount of travel of the trigger because of the fact of DA/SA. If reach is a problem than the pistol is too big for your hands or your hands are too small for the pistol. Fact of life, no one pistol will fit everyones hand. __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

October 30, 2008, 10:12 AM	#6
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	cloning My three EAA Witnesses, CZ clones all, allow for proper trigger reach when used correctly. Just not in DA mode. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

October 30, 2008, 11:13 AM	#7
briang2ad Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2004 Posts: 859	"Just not in DA mode" WELL - this goes to my endless observation of the P01. IF CZ pulled its head out of its FPOC, it would make ANOTHER model with a manual safety. The P01 is a GREAT gun with a significant flaw - it needs a manual safety. The manual safety does this: - Appeals more to Americans - Allows for two real modes of carry (you can manually decock safely - and its about as easy as the CZ decocker). - Makes it MUCH easier to work on the gun - Allows one to use a 'high thumb' hold - Allows a PD officer to keep the weapon in a mode safer to him/her Oh well....

October 29, 2008, 08:27 PM	#2
cens Member Join Date: July 9, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 74	mukibetser, I had a P-01 briefly but had the same issue as you are having. I couldn't find a convenient, off-the-shelf solution. It is possible that a gunsmith could modify the trigger shape, but it may be more effort than it is worth. Chris

October 30, 2008, 05:23 AM	#3
varoadking Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2004 Location: Dixie Posts: 2,315	CZ's are known for having one of the longest and most uncomfortable trigger reach. Aside from the initial DA pull, that's really the only negative, but certainly a significant one.

October 30, 2008, 01:19 PM	#8
mukibetser Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2008 Posts: 225	thanks. that's what i was afraid of. since this is a range/fun gun, not really a big deal since I can cock the pistol before first shot. from the comments, i gather that a SA pistol with manual safety will be more friendly to my stubby index finger. good to know in case i ever get a carry permit, chances of which are virtually nil here in good 'ol New Jersey. I also have a 3" S&W J frame in .357, which fits my hand like a glove and would be my go to gun at home if needed.

October 30, 2008, 06:45 PM	#9
JDG Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: West Michigan Posts: 673	Believe it or not, the P01 has a shorter trigger in DA than the old CZ75. Its not much shorter, but some can tell the difference. You can safely carry at the half cocked position, to shorten the pull. I installed a 17# hammer spring, and it helped a bunch