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May 27, 2008, 09:26 PM | #26 |
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Not dry lubes? I have heard that modern dry lubricants are the best (something between graphite and Buckminster Fullerenes) I don't really know what they are, but have been told by several serious shooters to use dry. Both were retired military, one Iraq and one Vietnam, so that may be why they liked it. I know at least in Iraq liquid is a terrible decision. I thought it was a good idea anywhere though.
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May 27, 2008, 09:57 PM | #27 | |
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ok, my main go to lube is CLP
my backup is Hoppes and the backup to my backup is RemOil. Johnwilliamson062 wrote: Quote:
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May 27, 2008, 10:02 PM | #29 |
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Hoppes Dry Lube is pretty good stuff.
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May 27, 2008, 10:07 PM | #30 |
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has anyone used gunjuice?
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May 28, 2008, 12:09 AM | #31 |
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I use whatever oil I have handy. Uasually Outers or Gunslick, but none of my guns are too good to get a coating of 3-in-1 one if thats what I've got on hand. My target .22 and my Ak might get some weapon shield every now and then, but no special synthetic dry lubes for me.
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May 28, 2008, 12:28 AM | #32 |
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I've been using Viking Machine SuperSlide... It's a synthetic, and it -really- likes to stick to metal. Very slick, very thin works very well - a little dab'll do you. Due to the viscosity bit, it is NOT meant for arid/sandy climates, but for competition or every day carry in generally "cleanish" environments, it rocks.
High "melting" point too, which helps with some stuff.
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May 28, 2008, 05:30 AM | #33 |
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Semi-auto rimfires fare better with dry lubricants because greases and oils accumulate grit and grime from the blowback operation that builds deposits on all moving parts.
Deposits on bolt face and breech cause more and more headspace that affects accuracy from poor ignition of the priming compound. Eventually, it leads to misfires, but before then, larger groups with flyers. I've used Dri-Slide over the years with great success. It has been my primary lubricant for revolver internals and triggers of all guns. Lately, I've used Brownell's Action Lube Plus on bolt and lever-action rifle parts, but use liquids very sparingly. Break-Free CLP is what I use the most to protect exterior surfaces from rust. It also works well as a lubricant where grit accumulation is not a big problem. One of the worst things for guns is too much oil in mechanisms. Iv'e cleaned old guns that had their wood parts soaked and rotted from the oils squirted in them, then had the gun stood in a corner, where the oil dripped out into the wood around the back of the receivers. This is particularly troublesome on nice old shotguns and Winchester 94-type actions. The Winchester 94 is infamous for wearing itself out, just by loading and unloading. It has an open-topped receiver and exposed hammer that allow all kinds of forest debris and grit to accumulate. There are many nooks and crannies that hold grit very well. The action is very difficult for most people to disassemble and clean, leading to lack of maintenance. When the average 94 barrel is cleaned, it's usually from the muzzle end. That causes wear at the crown, which is the most critical part of the bore. Sorry, I got carried away. Just lube lightly and clean out grit often. Dry is better than gooey! Picher |
May 28, 2008, 06:04 AM | #34 |
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Center fire pistols, a bit of Shooter Choice grease on the slide rails.
Rimfire pistol. Nothing AR-15 Slip 2000 EWL and a dab of grease on high friction areas on the BCG.
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May 28, 2008, 07:37 AM | #35 |
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While I don't like CLP for what the military needs it works good. Most of the time I had range officers that liked to pour it in over every thing My lower sometimes looked like an oil pan. But never had a jam didn't like it spitting in my face though.
I would never ever use a dry lube in combat. Why well I would have to pay it for one and the abundance of CLP in a desert combat area is going to high so why pay for something when you don't have to.
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May 29, 2008, 06:07 AM | #36 |
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Fine sand and grit sticks to oily surfaces, not to dry surfaces. The sand acts like sandpaper on all moving parts, wearing them out prematurely and creating jams.
Our range is often like a desert, with wind blowing fine sand into everything. Match triggers don't like grit. That may not be important to some people, but I keep my guns a long time and don't want them worn out or gritty when I use them. Picher |
May 29, 2008, 07:03 AM | #37 |
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Sentry Solutions Hi-slip Grease 18 rnds in a 20 rnd clip. Never had a jam.
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May 29, 2008, 11:03 AM | #38 |
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STP. nothing else seems to work a well!
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May 29, 2008, 11:48 AM | #39 | |
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AR15: CLP
22LR: Outers gun oil Everything else: Tetra grease Quote:
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May 29, 2008, 01:48 PM | #40 |
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In non-sandy conditions, a light coating of grease on wearing surfaces like Brownells' Action Plus works good on Win 94s, etc. as long as the action is taken apart and cleaned well once a year or so. A little goes a long way.
Grease is best for heavier, high-stress parts because it has a higher film strength and can take the racking of a lever-action. A thin coating of an oil or dry lube is best for small parts with low stress. That might be something like the cylinder locking bolt of a revolver, extractor springs, trigger group parts. The trigger and sear contacts should receive a moly lubricant, if possible. Picher |
May 30, 2008, 05:18 AM | #41 |
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+1 to all of Picher's posts above.
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May 30, 2008, 05:22 AM | #42 |
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KY Jelly.
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