Oleg & Runt...

Bogie · August 19, 2002, 03:50 PM

You _MUST_ climb in the jalopy for the 2nd weekend of October. Knob Creek beckons. Plan on camping. I'll supply the tent, you bring whatever you wanna sleep in/on. Bring a variety of clothing, since we won't know until if happens what sorta weather we'll have. Can be 35 in the morning, and 85 in the afternoon.

Dress tactical.

Seriously.

A mall ninja in full regalia wouldn't stand out at KCR.

In fact, I'm going to try to make sure we put up the canopy tent, and try to get a keg of some sort - if we can, I'd like to have a TFL gathering point for the campground - doubt if we will rival the subguns.com crew, but heck, we can have fun....

Guyon · August 19, 2002, 03:55 PM

What is Knob Creek?

hsg2001 · August 19, 2002, 03:57 PM

It's something like:

Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot

Betty · August 19, 2002, 04:23 PM

I'd love to go to Knob Creek! I won't know for sure if I can make it though - I have a good chance of changing jobs within the next few weeks, so I don't know what my schedule is going to be like (don't know if I'll be in the middle of a deadline and have to work a weekend). My brother may want to come, too. Full auto? Who can resist?

Bogie · August 19, 2002, 04:56 PM

Hey, you'll love it. Bring a crowd. The more, the merrier. I can supply tent-room for probably a half-dozen, more if they're really friendly with each other. You'll, of course, pay for your own camping tickets.

And I'm looking foward to woodland camo chipmunk cheeks... Think VERY VERY tactical.

That, and the sight of Oleg drooling on all the old military rifles. And they're for sale too... along with plenty of ammo...

Oops. On second thought, the jalopy won't do it. Rent a truck. A big truck.

You'll also want to bring safety glasses, earplugs AND earmuffs.

KSFreeman · August 19, 2002, 05:07 PM

Look for the tall, lanky guy who talks like a squirrel and twitches when the phone rings (end of shelter on the left).

Bogie · August 19, 2002, 05:10 PM

In the back, or up by John Ross' buddy?

Ben Swenson · August 19, 2002, 05:18 PM

Bogie ain't kidding you. Expect to go back with a fatally wounded wallet and concerned about what the ammo is doing to the shocks on your vehicle. This year's spring shoot, I brought back 3 new rifles and about six times more centerfire ammunition than I wanted to lug down to the campground. Oleg - I don't care what anyone else says about helping you carry stuff, bring a sturdy hand truck. With 1400 rounds of 8mm at $85 per case, how do you not buy a couple cases?

And this is why I decidedly won't be going to the fall shoot. I just can't afford it.

Oleg Volk · August 19, 2002, 09:14 PM

Grrrr...I'd be torn between carrying camera gear and rifles. Plus trying to find a place for re-charging batteries for the digital. Can't afford much at this point...just trying to stock up on as much non-corrosive 303 before it dries up and on 223 for training. Given up trying to keep enough 30-06 on hand, too expensive.

Might get some nice photos out of the trip. Shooting automatic weapons isn't that big a thrill anymore, though I wouldn't pass up something I haven't tried (Beretta 12S or MP18 or some such)

garrettwc · August 19, 2002, 09:22 PM

9 posts and no one has mentioned the civil war cannon or the flame thrower rentals.

Oleg if you're bored with the full autos the roasting a Ford Granada with a flame thrower will get the creative juices flowing.

I can't wait. Working 20 minutes away makes it nice. Just load up the car on Friday before work and head out at quitting time.

KSFreeman · August 19, 2002, 09:46 PM

Walther, anything interesting your neighbors farther up I-65 should see at Kiesler's (Friday afternoon)? Any bag of guns deals?

Mr. Wolf and runt, bring non-foofoo boots and rain slicker (just in case). The soil is clay. I bring water, but others don't. Be sure and see the Patton museum. Part of Patton's collection is there including a cherry ZB26.

As well, Cav usually has a tent sale. Interesing stuff. I bought my "vee vill ask the questionen" black leather jacket there in `97.

garrettwc · August 19, 2002, 10:28 PM

Freeman, nothing special this week at Kiesler's. A few of the surplus Yugo rifles that are all over Shotgun News and most gun shows. Big selection of 1911s. A new HK P7M8, a Hathcock "Whitefeather" Springfield rifle. Most of Wilson Combat's pistols, shotguns, and ARs.

The usual large gun shop fodder. They are running sales about every other month with some good deals on ammo and some pleasant surprises pop up every now and then. Ask me again closer to Knob Creek time.

I second the idea of the Patton museum and the US Cav tent sale.

Bogie · August 20, 2002, 10:29 AM

Oleg, if all you need to plug in is a charger, I've got a little 400 watt inverter that we can run off a cigarette lighter... Should work fine.

cslinger · August 20, 2002, 10:51 AM

Machine Gun Mecca. I am going to really try to go again this year.

Bogie · August 20, 2002, 11:34 AM

Oh yeah, Oleg - Don't carry rifles. Carry camera gear. You might wanna consider competing in the old military rifle matches they do tho...

Oleg, we gotta seriously talk about getting you started on handloading.

Oleg Volk · August 20, 2002, 11:37 AM

Let's talk handloading. I finally see the point to it (fine-tuning loads) but I wonder about trying to load for semi-auto rifles at home...can that be done safely? 30-06 sounds like a good candidate.

Bogie · August 20, 2002, 11:53 AM

Yeah, it's no big deal. Start saving brass.

I'll gift you with a press that'll suffice for your needs, and you can pick up some surplus powder and bullets at KCR. Hope that runt can carry a lot...

Greg L · August 20, 2002, 12:00 PM

I'm working on coming down there with a bunch of Cub Scouts in tow (I have a feeling it will be like herding chickens). I'll be the exasperated/exhausted looking one with a TFL shirt on.

Not sure if we'll be camping out but if we do maybe we can teach them how to work the tap so that our time doesn't have taken up with that long trip over to the keg and back.

Greg

Oleg Volk · August 20, 2002, 12:19 PM

Got plenty of 06 brass. Would like to load for accuracy, using decent HP bullets.

Also would like to start loading 38S&W in order shoot an old Webley. Would probably just buy a couple of boxes of factory ammo and re-load the brass. I don't care for LRN bullets and would prefer to load SWC.

Bogie · August 20, 2002, 12:45 PM

No big deal then...

The .30-06 is a Garand, right? There'll be plenty of stuff around. You may find, however, that you'll get similar accuracy with "normal" bullets as you would with "match" bullets. Your barrel and chamber combo will be the defining factor, and most just won't cut it for "match" accuracy.

Powder will cost you in the area of $10/pound (or less, if you get lucky), and you can get around 150-200 rounds/pound for rifle loads. Bunches more for handgun. With Bullseye, you can load 2,000 .38 special wadcutter loads with a pound, and have some left over.

There are several dealers that'll be at the shoot where you can pick up surplus components cheap. Post your calibers over at the handloading forum, and we'll get you a shopping list together. I can give you a press, and a Lee powder measure for the rifle, and you can scrounge the rest of the stuff...

Ben Swenson · August 20, 2002, 12:49 PM

Quote:

I can give you a press, and a Lee powder measure for the rifle, and you can scrounge the rest of the stuff.

I think Bogie gets the "One Helluva Guy" award for this week.

Bogie · August 20, 2002, 02:30 PM

Yeah, but he's gotta camp at KCR to pick it up...

August 19, 2002, 03:50 PM	#1
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Oleg & Runt... You _MUST_ climb in the jalopy for the 2nd weekend of October. Knob Creek beckons. Plan on camping. I'll supply the tent, you bring whatever you wanna sleep in/on. Bring a variety of clothing, since we won't know until if happens what sorta weather we'll have. Can be 35 in the morning, and 85 in the afternoon. Dress tactical. Seriously. A mall ninja in full regalia wouldn't stand out at KCR. In fact, I'm going to try to make sure we put up the canopy tent, and try to get a keg of some sort - if we can, I'd like to have a TFL gathering point for the campground - doubt if we will rival the subguns.com crew, but heck, we can have fun.... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 19, 2002, 03:55 PM	#2
Guyon Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2000 Location: Over the Hills and Through the Woods, Tennessee Posts: 1,207	What is Knob Creek? __________________ Gun control should just be about hitting your target.

August 19, 2002, 04:56 PM	#5
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Hey, you'll love it. Bring a crowd. The more, the merrier. I can supply tent-room for probably a half-dozen, more if they're really friendly with each other. You'll, of course, pay for your own camping tickets. And I'm looking foward to woodland camo chipmunk cheeks... Think VERY VERY tactical. That, and the sight of Oleg drooling on all the old military rifles. And they're for sale too... along with plenty of ammo... Oops. On second thought, the jalopy won't do it. Rent a truck. A big truck. You'll also want to bring safety glasses, earplugs AND earmuffs. __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 19, 2002, 05:07 PM	#6
KSFreeman Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2001 Location: Lafayette, Indiana--American-occupied America Posts: 5,418	Look for the tall, lanky guy who talks like a squirrel and twitches when the phone rings (end of shelter on the left). __________________ "Arguments of policy must give way to a constitutional command." Payton v. New York, 445 U.S. 573, 602 (1980).

August 19, 2002, 05:10 PM	#7
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	In the back, or up by John Ross' buddy? __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 19, 2002, 03:57 PM	#3
hsg2001 Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 104	It's something like: Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot

August 19, 2002, 04:23 PM	#4
Betty Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2000 Location: southern U.S. Posts: 1,807	I'd love to go to Knob Creek! I won't know for sure if I can make it though - I have a good chance of changing jobs within the next few weeks, so I don't know what my schedule is going to be like (don't know if I'll be in the middle of a deadline and have to work a weekend). My brother may want to come, too. Full auto? Who can resist?

August 19, 2002, 05:18 PM	#8
Ben Swenson Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2000 Posts: 1,210	Bogie ain't kidding you. Expect to go back with a fatally wounded wallet and concerned about what the ammo is doing to the shocks on your vehicle. This year's spring shoot, I brought back 3 new rifles and about six times more centerfire ammunition than I wanted to lug down to the campground. Oleg - I don't care what anyone else says about helping you carry stuff, bring a sturdy hand truck. With 1400 rounds of 8mm at $85 per case, how do you not buy a couple cases? And this is why I decidedly won't be going to the fall shoot. I just can't afford it.

August 19, 2002, 09:14 PM	#9
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	Grrrr...I'd be torn between carrying camera gear and rifles. Plus trying to find a place for re-charging batteries for the digital. Can't afford much at this point...just trying to stock up on as much non-corrosive 303 before it dries up and on 223 for training. Given up trying to keep enough 30-06 on hand, too expensive. Might get some nice photos out of the trip. Shooting automatic weapons isn't that big a thrill anymore, though I wouldn't pass up something I haven't tried (Beretta 12S or MP18 or some such) __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

August 19, 2002, 09:22 PM	#10
garrettwc Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2001 Posts: 641	9 posts and no one has mentioned the civil war cannon or the flame thrower rentals. Oleg if you're bored with the full autos the roasting a Ford Granada with a flame thrower will get the creative juices flowing. I can't wait. Working 20 minutes away makes it nice. Just load up the car on Friday before work and head out at quitting time.

August 19, 2002, 09:46 PM	#11
KSFreeman Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2001 Location: Lafayette, Indiana--American-occupied America Posts: 5,418	Walther, anything interesting your neighbors farther up I-65 should see at Kiesler's (Friday afternoon)? Any bag of guns deals? Mr. Wolf and runt, bring non-foofoo boots and rain slicker (just in case). The soil is clay. I bring water, but others don't. Be sure and see the Patton museum. Part of Patton's collection is there including a cherry ZB26. As well, Cav usually has a tent sale. Interesing stuff. I bought my "vee vill ask the questionen" black leather jacket there in `97. __________________ "Arguments of policy must give way to a constitutional command." Payton v. New York, 445 U.S. 573, 602 (1980).

August 19, 2002, 10:28 PM	#12
garrettwc Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2001 Posts: 641	Freeman, nothing special this week at Kiesler's. A few of the surplus Yugo rifles that are all over Shotgun News and most gun shows. Big selection of 1911s. A new HK P7M8, a Hathcock "Whitefeather" Springfield rifle. Most of Wilson Combat's pistols, shotguns, and ARs. The usual large gun shop fodder. They are running sales about every other month with some good deals on ammo and some pleasant surprises pop up every now and then. Ask me again closer to Knob Creek time. I second the idea of the Patton museum and the US Cav tent sale.

August 20, 2002, 10:29 AM	#13
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Oleg, if all you need to plug in is a charger, I've got a little 400 watt inverter that we can run off a cigarette lighter... Should work fine. __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 20, 2002, 10:51 AM	#14
cslinger Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,045	Ahhhh Knob Creek Machine Gun Mecca. I am going to really try to go again this year. __________________ "Is there anyway I can write my local gun store off on my taxes as dependents?"

August 20, 2002, 11:34 AM	#15
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Oh yeah, Oleg - Don't carry rifles. Carry camera gear. You might wanna consider competing in the old military rifle matches they do tho... Oleg, we gotta seriously talk about getting you started on handloading. __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 20, 2002, 11:37 AM	#16
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	Let's talk handloading. I finally see the point to it (fine-tuning loads) but I wonder about trying to load for semi-auto rifles at home...can that be done safely? 30-06 sounds like a good candidate. __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

August 20, 2002, 11:53 AM	#17
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Yeah, it's no big deal. Start saving brass. I'll gift you with a press that'll suffice for your needs, and you can pick up some surplus powder and bullets at KCR. Hope that runt can carry a lot... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 20, 2002, 12:00 PM	#18
Greg L Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: Northern KY Posts: 542	I'm working on coming down there with a bunch of Cub Scouts in tow (I have a feeling it will be like herding chickens). I'll be the exasperated/exhausted looking one with a TFL shirt on. Not sure if we'll be camping out but if we do maybe we can teach them how to work the tap so that our time doesn't have taken up with that long trip over to the keg and back. Greg

August 20, 2002, 12:19 PM	#19
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	Got plenty of 06 brass. Would like to load for accuracy, using decent HP bullets. Also would like to start loading 38S&W in order shoot an old Webley. Would probably just buy a couple of boxes of factory ammo and re-load the brass. I don't care for LRN bullets and would prefer to load SWC. __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

August 20, 2002, 12:45 PM	#20
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	No big deal then... The .30-06 is a Garand, right? There'll be plenty of stuff around. You may find, however, that you'll get similar accuracy with "normal" bullets as you would with "match" bullets. Your barrel and chamber combo will be the defining factor, and most just won't cut it for "match" accuracy. Powder will cost you in the area of $10/pound (or less, if you get lucky), and you can get around 150-200 rounds/pound for rifle loads. Bunches more for handgun. With Bullseye, you can load 2,000 .38 special wadcutter loads with a pound, and have some left over. There are several dealers that'll be at the shoot where you can pick up surplus components cheap. Post your calibers over at the handloading forum, and we'll get you a shopping list together. I can give you a press, and a Lee powder measure for the rifle, and you can scrounge the rest of the stuff... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

August 20, 2002, 02:30 PM	#22
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Yeah, but he's gotta camp at KCR to pick it up... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!