Savage Model 10FP vs. Savage Model 12FVSS

viper84 · March 2, 2008, 09:10 PM

Anyone got any opinions of the

Savage Model 10FP Law Enforcement Series
http://www.savagearms.com/10fp.htm

versus

Savage Model 12FVSS 12 Series Varmint
http://www.savagearms.com/12fvss.htm

Feedback is appreciated is appreciated.
Lee

mshunter · March 2, 2008, 09:15 PM

get the 10fp.... the 26" barrel length on the varmint will make the barrel kind of off balance and awkward... id get the shorter barrel... 26" is not necessary

plus its cheaper

Full-choke · March 2, 2008, 09:30 PM

10FP, I owned a 110FP in 308, wish I still had it.

F-C

10-96 · March 2, 2008, 09:37 PM

Sorry, I didn't vote. What are you going to do with whichever rifle you choose? If you aren't going to walk around with it much and intend on shooting from a bench or over a p-dog town and you reload- personally, I'd go with the 12. But, if you want something that's a little more to the tune of "general purpose" and don't wanna be bothered with the extra length, weight, imbalance- then the 10 would be up your alley. Heard great things about both of 'em. Good luck, and safe shooting!

viper84 · March 2, 2008, 10:21 PM

I'm looking mainly for a target/benchrest gun. My dad & I reload and we like to see how close we can group the shots. So it looks like the 12 is better for that?

10-96 · March 2, 2008, 10:27 PM

Well... again, that would purely be MY preference. The 10 may do just as well- but I was brought up with some seriously old school teachers who preached that long and heavy bbls are what'll give you optimum benefits from a wider range of powders when considering burn rates. All that is still over my head as far as the science and mathematics goes- but I have become more comfortable with the longer and heavier bbls for bench and varmint shooting when it comes down to tweaking my loads.

Buzzcook · March 2, 2008, 10:31 PM

The 12 is probably the better target rifle.

Timbow · March 2, 2008, 10:43 PM

10-96 isn't being a 10-96 when he says the 12 will be the better target gun

I have a model 12 and that thing is a tack driver. It's a 22-250 and it will shoot half inch groups with cheap Winchester white box ammo all day long. My shooting partner has the same gun and has had the same results. If you want a gun to shoot little groups with the 12 is the way to go.

LittleLebowski · March 3, 2008, 10:17 AM

12fv if you're target shooting.

Timbow, isn't the 22-250 just a danged laser

john in jax · March 3, 2008, 12:21 PM

For benchrest and reaching way out there the 12 seems like the best choice, BUT the 10 isn't far behind.

629 shooter · March 3, 2008, 04:05 PM

Currently own a 12BVSS which is just like a 12FVSS except with a laminated wood stock instead of plastic. If I bought a Savage again I would probably try the 10FP. The barrel on my 12BVSS has a tendency to foul quickly. Would like to try a non-stainless.

The 10FP still has a heavy barrel. Unless shooting at extremely long distances having the 26" barrel with the 12FVSS will not be a great overwhelming advantage. My 700LTR with 20" barrel routinely shoots more accurately than my 26" rifles.

bedlamite · March 3, 2008, 05:55 PM

My dad has a 12FV in 223. Avoid Savage's plastic stock, get the hardwood or laminated instead. The plastic stock is flexible enough that the barrel's weight will settle down onto the stock and make it impossible to free float the barrel. We ended up replacing my dad's stock with one from Boyds. After bedding the action and floating the barrel it's so accurate it's boring, 1/2 MOA or better is typical with handloads.

RedneckFur · March 3, 2008, 06:00 PM

ive owned one of those 12 series tube-action rifles. They are very accurate, but with a scope, they weigh nearly 15lbs. Not a gun you could take hunting for the weekend.

cimarronvalley · March 3, 2008, 06:31 PM

I have a 12 FV in 22-250, a 12 FVSS in 308, an 11G in 308 for hunting, and a Savage/Stevens 200 in 223. I love all 4 of them but for long range accuracy, I would go with the 12 FV. If I could figure out how to post pictures, I would show you a 5 round group from the 12 FVSS 308 at a 110m that is one big hole.

March 2, 2008, 09:10 PM	#1
viper84 Junior Member Join Date: February 11, 2007 Posts: 8	Savage Model 10FP vs. Savage Model 12FVSS Anyone got any opinions of the Savage Model 10FP Law Enforcement Series http://www.savagearms.com/10fp.htm versus Savage Model 12FVSS 12 Series Varmint http://www.savagearms.com/12fvss.htm Feedback is appreciated is appreciated. Lee

March 2, 2008, 09:30 PM	#3
Full-choke Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 617	10FP, I owned a 110FP in 308, wish I still had it. F-C __________________ TC Encore -6mm Rem Rifle; Ruger 10/22; Ruger 10/22 Ultimate; Stoeger Condor 20; ; Remington 1100 12; Stoeger 22 Luger; Taurus PT1911; Ruger SR40c God gave us the gift of life. It is the most precious gift ever. To be unarmed is to be helpless to protect that gift; that is outright irresponsible. - Ted Nugent

March 2, 2008, 09:37 PM	#4
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,160	Sorry, I didn't vote. What are you going to do with whichever rifle you choose? If you aren't going to walk around with it much and intend on shooting from a bench or over a p-dog town and you reload- personally, I'd go with the 12. But, if you want something that's a little more to the tune of "general purpose" and don't wanna be bothered with the extra length, weight, imbalance- then the 10 would be up your alley. Heard great things about both of 'em. Good luck, and safe shooting! __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

March 2, 2008, 10:27 PM	#6
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,160	Well... again, that would purely be MY preference. The 10 may do just as well- but I was brought up with some seriously old school teachers who preached that long and heavy bbls are what'll give you optimum benefits from a wider range of powders when considering burn rates. All that is still over my head as far as the science and mathematics goes- but I have become more comfortable with the longer and heavier bbls for bench and varmint shooting when it comes down to tweaking my loads. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

March 2, 2008, 10:43 PM	#8
Timbow Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2008 Posts: 167	yep 10-96 isn't being a 10-96 when he says the 12 will be the better target gun I have a model 12 and that thing is a tack driver. It's a 22-250 and it will shoot half inch groups with cheap Winchester white box ammo all day long. My shooting partner has the same gun and has had the same results. If you want a gun to shoot little groups with the 12 is the way to go.

View Poll Results: Which One would you choose: Savage Model 10FP & Savage Model 12FVSS?
Savage Model 10FP	10	47.62%
Savage Model 12FVSS	11	52.38%
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March 2, 2008, 09:15 PM	#2
mshunter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2007 Posts: 134	get the 10fp.... the 26" barrel length on the varmint will make the barrel kind of off balance and awkward... id get the shorter barrel... 26" is not necessary plus its cheaper

March 2, 2008, 10:21 PM	#5
viper84 Junior Member Join Date: February 11, 2007 Posts: 8	I'm looking mainly for a target/benchrest gun. My dad & I reload and we like to see how close we can group the shots. So it looks like the 12 is better for that?

March 2, 2008, 10:31 PM	#7
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	The 12 is probably the better target rifle.

March 3, 2008, 10:17 AM	#9
LittleLebowski Member Join Date: February 24, 2008 Location: NoVa, Wyoming native Posts: 57	12fv if you're target shooting. Timbow, isn't the 22-250 just a danged laser

March 3, 2008, 12:21 PM	#10
john in jax Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2005 Posts: 1,177	For benchrest and reaching way out there the 12 seems like the best choice, BUT the 10 isn't far behind. __________________ America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. Claire Wolfe

March 3, 2008, 04:05 PM	#11
629 shooter Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2002 Location: IN , USA Posts: 967	Currently own a 12BVSS which is just like a 12FVSS except with a laminated wood stock instead of plastic. If I bought a Savage again I would probably try the 10FP. The barrel on my 12BVSS has a tendency to foul quickly. Would like to try a non-stainless. The 10FP still has a heavy barrel. Unless shooting at extremely long distances having the 26" barrel with the 12FVSS will not be a great overwhelming advantage. My 700LTR with 20" barrel routinely shoots more accurately than my 26" rifles. __________________ "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

March 3, 2008, 05:55 PM	#12
bedlamite Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2000 Location: WI Posts: 1,395	My dad has a 12FV in 223. Avoid Savage's plastic stock, get the hardwood or laminated instead. The plastic stock is flexible enough that the barrel's weight will settle down onto the stock and make it impossible to free float the barrel. We ended up replacing my dad's stock with one from Boyds. After bedding the action and floating the barrel it's so accurate it's boring, 1/2 MOA or better is typical with handloads. __________________ A plan is just a list of things that doesn't happen.

March 3, 2008, 06:00 PM	#13
RedneckFur Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2007 Location: Central NC Posts: 1,424	ive owned one of those 12 series tube-action rifles. They are very accurate, but with a scope, they weigh nearly 15lbs. Not a gun you could take hunting for the weekend.

March 3, 2008, 06:31 PM	#14
cimarronvalley Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2007 Location: Shawnee, Ok. Posts: 155	12 Fv I have a 12 FV in 22-250, a 12 FVSS in 308, an 11G in 308 for hunting, and a Savage/Stevens 200 in 223. I love all 4 of them but for long range accuracy, I would go with the 12 FV. If I could figure out how to post pictures, I would show you a 5 round group from the 12 FVSS 308 at a 110m that is one big hole.