am I the only out there...

Hellbilly5000 · July 9, 2009, 03:52 AM

That likes semi autos and single action revolvers but does not care for double action revolvers.

To me a semi auto or a single action are just a lot more fun to shoot.
I know double action revolvers are considered more reliable then semis but the enjoyment in shooting them is just not there for me like it is with semis and s/a pistols

Sport45 · July 9, 2009, 04:06 AM

On most DA revolvers you can thumb the hammer back. You knew that, right?

Of course the SA revolver with it's base pin may be marginally better at holding the cylinder in alignment, but they have their problems too. I got rid of my .44mag SBH because the base pin would sometimes jump out with heavy loads. My RH took it's place nicely. I have weened myself off the heavy stuff for the most part...

Hellbilly5000 · July 9, 2009, 04:20 AM

Yeah I know but I just don't like double action revolvers even though you can thumb the hammer back

Singlesix1954 · July 9, 2009, 08:30 AM

I'm with you. I have afew DAs and shoot them mostly SA. It is an accuracy thing. Close range poper shooters wouldn't understand. (Not that there is anything wrong with that!)

greyson97 · July 9, 2009, 08:37 AM

yeah, I like SA trigger pulls much more for shooting, but sometimes you have to learn how to DA pull, and be good at it, cause in the SD situation, gotta use the DA trigger pull, unless you have a 1911 locked and cocked.

how do you feel about the Glock trigger pull?

Sevens · July 9, 2009, 08:44 AM

My first DA revolver came in to my world when I was 17, so I've been shooting DA revolvers for 20-some years. For much of that, I was thumbing them back and shooting single action, but enjoying the quicker loading and ejecting. Hell, it's not even the quicker loading that I like the most-- it's the quicker ejecting. But back to my point.

For most of those years, I've been thumbing back my DA revolvers and shooting in single action. Always wanted a single action hogleg and last year, I finally bought my first.

Now I like it, it's a .30 Carbine Blackhawk and it's a fire breather. Anyone who has shot one in this caliber will tell you, it's all thunderous bark, so it's a heap of fun. But to make the hi-test cartridge run halfway decently, it's got a long 7.5 inch tube and it's a little lengthy so it handles a little odd, like it's a little too long.

And loading it and unloading it is a moumental pain in the keister. Now I'm not in a constant hurry and I don't have ADD so it's not like I can't simply be patient and go through the motions (I can, and I do, and I don't fret over it) but it is what it is, and it seems like I spend half the time I'm using it thumbing out fired cartridges.

And funny enough, in the last 2 or 3 years, I've spent a lot more time shooting my DA revolvers and doing a lot of that shooting in slow, methodical double action. There's a real benefit to not changing my grip on the revolver between each shot. The trigger is long and heavy and makes me want to consider a little trigger (or at least return spring) work to make them easier.

But the bottom line is that I always used to shoot my DA revolvers in single action, but these days I do most of my DA revolver shooting double action. And though I always wanted a single action sixgun, I now have one and I just don't enjoy it as much as I do my traditional DA wheelguns. I don't have the same comfortable grip on the Blackhawk and loading it (and more so) unloading it seems like a task.

With the single action, cleaning is much more enjoyable. The cylinder is easier to do well because it's completely disconnected from the gun, and with no crane and ejector in the way.

Anyhow, I'd have to say that I'm opposite -- I love almost ALL guns out there, but I enjoy my DA revolvers more than my single action shooter. But one thing is for sure... as much as I love shooting me semi-autos (I shoot them more than revolvers), as a hand loader, I sure as hell love NOT chasing brass when I'm using my wheelies!

bigghoss · July 9, 2009, 11:41 AM

I like 'em all!

curt.45 · July 9, 2009, 02:24 PM

+1 bigghoss.

B.N.Real · July 9, 2009, 02:27 PM

I'm exactly the opposite.

While I really like s/a revolvers,I dislike that you either have to punch out the empties or take the whole cylkinder out to reload it.

But way more important to me is the fact that you cannot just pull the trigger to fire the gun.

You have to cock that hammer after every shot.

Too slow for me.

But I would definitely love to own a genuine old 45 Long Colt Colt single action revolver.

That's where the magic started.

Bill DeShivs · July 9, 2009, 05:43 PM

D/A shooting can be just as accurate as S/A. It just takes PRACTICE. Don't be lazy. D/A revolvers have a lot to offer.

smoke63b · July 9, 2009, 07:39 PM

They both have their place and their uses. Both are excellent for different circumstances and sometimes necessary for different circumstances.

Teuthis · July 9, 2009, 07:51 PM

I think you are being narrow in your outlook Hellbilly. One should be open minded with regards to the firearms available to us. Proficiency with revolvers is as important as proficiency with semi-autos. For self defense I much prefer my 1911. But in the field, where beasts may be involved, or even human beasts, I prefer a powerful revolver every time. Its the proper tool for the proper situation.

Broaden your view and enjoy what we have. When they some day add ray guns to the mix, just bring it in with the rest.

MLeake · July 9, 2009, 10:04 PM

... is with the hard recoiling ones. The SA grip shape lends itself to rolling back in the hand, and dissipating some of the recoil force. The humpback shape of the DA grip doesn't roll so well, is more likely to pinch the web between thumb and forefinger, and transfers more apparent recoil to the hand.

That said, I still generally prefer DA. The SA rolling back in my hand always felt weird to me.

skydiver3346 · July 9, 2009, 10:12 PM

Wish I only liked the ones you like Hellbilly: (SA's and semi autos).....

I sure would have a whole lot more $$$ if that was the case. But I just love 'em all and it gets pretty expensive when you like eveything!

Hellbilly5000 · July 9, 2009, 10:59 PM

I am not being narrow minded I just don't like da revolvers it's more of the grips on them I shoot them just fine and they are great for hunting with huge calibers
I love almost every rifle from lever action to semi to bolt action

iScream · July 10, 2009, 12:12 AM

I shoot my DA revolvers almost 100% SA. I like the DA though since it makes loading and unloading a lot easier. The Single Six is fun to shoot sometimes but it's such a pain to put in one cartridge at a time and have to push each one out individually.

-Chris

Rich Miranda · July 10, 2009, 12:22 AM

I definitely like the mystique and character of SA guns. There is just something about them that makes me want to work the action. Pistols and DA revolvers don't have that same feeling for me.

I don't own any SAs yet, but only because the budget does not allow.

Kreyzhorse · July 10, 2009, 06:34 AM

I like SA revolvers, but I don't like them nearly as much as a good DA revolver. Oddly, I shot my DA in SA mode most of the time, but I do like having the option of DA or SA.

Regardless of action type, and I have grown to really like some semi autos, you still can't beat a good revolver for looks and reliability.

jdscholer · July 10, 2009, 08:13 AM

Shooting DA has cured me of the trigger jerk/flinch problem that I was developing. It focuses my concentration on control of the gun rather than when the sear is going to release.

If you haven't tried slow accurate shooting in DA, do yourself a favor. It just might be the start of a good habit. jd

Dingoboyx · July 10, 2009, 08:34 AM

I am the same, like SA revolvers and semi auto pistols.... have shot DA revolvers, can take or leave them.... they look weird the hammerless ones

nice guns tho, they are all good

BlueTrain · July 10, 2009, 10:31 AM

I think that during the 1950s and on into the 1960s, single action revolvers were in the ascendency, mainly because of their use in television westerns and in the movies. There were the popular sports of quick draw and fast draw, most contestents using single action revolvers. That's about when Jeff Cooper entered the picture. He started out managing some of these shooting games. So, somehow, people got the idea that single action revolvers were faster than double actions and apparently, more practical. Partly for the same reason, presumably, that's about when the first reproduction single actions hit the market, Great Western probably being the first.

Large frame double actions were apparently scarce in the same period, although second hand New Service/M1917 revolvers for sale appeared in all the magazines. So overall, I don't think it's surprising that single actions were what people thought of when they thought of revolvers. Double action autos were just coming along around then, too, but people still thought of revolvers as being better, in spite of the numbers of European automatics that were being offered for sale then and most of them were single action.

And that was 50 years ago!

Hellbilly5000 · July 11, 2009, 01:26 AM

Don't know if a sa is faster then a da but I think there more fun to shoot when it comes to shooting for pleasure. I guess if you practice with a sa then you would be faster with it. I do practice with da revolvers because I do love shooting and if you need to use a gun your first choice in guns may not be within reach. I do love em all but much like everyone else I do have my prefernces that I like to shoot (1911's and lever action rifles)

Notenoughguns · July 11, 2009, 01:36 AM

Everyone should own a DA to learn consistent trigger manipulation. If you can shoot DA proficiently you'll do good with any type handgun.

Shadi Khalil · July 11, 2009, 07:38 AM

Once you get a DA trigger nice an worn in and you get the staging down, it can be just as good as anything else. IMO, of course.

Wobble · July 12, 2009, 07:46 PM

I have tried but can't learn to love DAs and the loooong trigger pull. And why have a DA if you normally shoot it in SA mode? Even my experienced friends have big problems with accuracy with DAs. I know -- practice, practice, practice......

As for SA revolvers being slow, it's possible to get rounds off as fast, or faster, with a SAA than with a semi, using weak-hand hammer thumbing (not "fanning").

July 9, 2009, 03:52 AM	#1
Hellbilly5000 Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2009 Location: RGV, Tx Posts: 787	am I the only out there... That likes semi autos and single action revolvers but does not care for double action revolvers. To me a semi auto or a single action are just a lot more fun to shoot. I know double action revolvers are considered more reliable then semis but the enjoyment in shooting them is just not there for me like it is with semis and s/a pistols __________________ And death climbs the steps one by one, To give you the rose that's been burnt by her son, Point me to the sky above I can't get there on my own, Walk me through the graveyard Dig up her bones

July 9, 2009, 04:06 AM	#2
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	On most DA revolvers you can thumb the hammer back. You knew that, right? Of course the SA revolver with it's base pin may be marginally better at holding the cylinder in alignment, but they have their problems too. I got rid of my .44mag SBH because the base pin would sometimes jump out with heavy loads. My RH took it's place nicely. I have weened myself off the heavy stuff for the most part... __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

July 9, 2009, 04:20 AM	#3
Hellbilly5000 Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2009 Location: RGV, Tx Posts: 787	Yeah I know but I just don't like double action revolvers even though you can thumb the hammer back __________________ And death climbs the steps one by one, To give you the rose that's been burnt by her son, Point me to the sky above I can't get there on my own, Walk me through the graveyard Dig up her bones

July 9, 2009, 08:30 AM	#4
Singlesix1954 Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Rural Ne Posts: 580	I'm with you. I have afew DAs and shoot them mostly SA. It is an accuracy thing. Close range poper shooters wouldn't understand. (Not that there is anything wrong with that!) __________________ Luke 22:36 Single six 1954

July 9, 2009, 08:44 AM	#6
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	why write a short one when you can write a book! My first DA revolver came in to my world when I was 17, so I've been shooting DA revolvers for 20-some years. For much of that, I was thumbing them back and shooting single action, but enjoying the quicker loading and ejecting. Hell, it's not even the quicker loading that I like the most-- it's the quicker ejecting. But back to my point. For most of those years, I've been thumbing back my DA revolvers and shooting in single action. Always wanted a single action hogleg and last year, I finally bought my first. Now I like it, it's a .30 Carbine Blackhawk and it's a fire breather. Anyone who has shot one in this caliber will tell you, it's all thunderous bark, so it's a heap of fun. But to make the hi-test cartridge run halfway decently, it's got a long 7.5 inch tube and it's a little lengthy so it handles a little odd, like it's a little too long. And loading it and unloading it is a moumental pain in the keister. Now I'm not in a constant hurry and I don't have ADD so it's not like I can't simply be patient and go through the motions (I can, and I do, and I don't fret over it) but it is what it is, and it seems like I spend half the time I'm using it thumbing out fired cartridges. And funny enough, in the last 2 or 3 years, I've spent a lot more time shooting my DA revolvers and doing a lot of that shooting in slow, methodical double action. There's a real benefit to not changing my grip on the revolver between each shot. The trigger is long and heavy and makes me want to consider a little trigger (or at least return spring) work to make them easier. But the bottom line is that I always used to shoot my DA revolvers in single action, but these days I do most of my DA revolver shooting double action. And though I always wanted a single action sixgun, I now have one and I just don't enjoy it as much as I do my traditional DA wheelguns. I don't have the same comfortable grip on the Blackhawk and loading it (and more so) unloading it seems like a task. With the single action, cleaning is much more enjoyable. The cylinder is easier to do well because it's completely disconnected from the gun, and with no crane and ejector in the way. Anyhow, I'd have to say that I'm opposite -- I love almost ALL guns out there, but I enjoy my DA revolvers more than my single action shooter. But one thing is for sure... as much as I love shooting me semi-autos (I shoot them more than revolvers), as a hand loader, I sure as hell love NOT chasing brass when I'm using my wheelies! __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

July 9, 2009, 08:37 AM	#5
greyson97 Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,284	yeah, I like SA trigger pulls much more for shooting, but sometimes you have to learn how to DA pull, and be good at it, cause in the SD situation, gotta use the DA trigger pull, unless you have a 1911 locked and cocked. how do you feel about the Glock trigger pull?

July 9, 2009, 11:41 AM	#7
bigghoss Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,664	I like 'em all! __________________ I don't collect guns, I accumulate them.

July 9, 2009, 02:24 PM	#8
curt.45 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2008 Location: Fort Wayne Ind. Posts: 866	+1 bigghoss.

July 9, 2009, 02:27 PM	#9
B.N.Real Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Posts: 4,092	I'm exactly the opposite. While I really like s/a revolvers,I dislike that you either have to punch out the empties or take the whole cylkinder out to reload it. But way more important to me is the fact that you cannot just pull the trigger to fire the gun. You have to cock that hammer after every shot. Too slow for me. But I would definitely love to own a genuine old 45 Long Colt Colt single action revolver. That's where the magic started.

July 9, 2009, 05:43 PM	#10
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,991	D/A shooting can be just as accurate as S/A. It just takes PRACTICE. Don't be lazy. D/A revolvers have a lot to offer. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

July 9, 2009, 07:39 PM	#11
smoke63b Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 111	They both have their place and their uses. Both are excellent for different circumstances and sometimes necessary for different circumstances.

July 9, 2009, 07:51 PM	#12
Teuthis Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2008 Location: Southern Arizona Posts: 537	I think you are being narrow in your outlook Hellbilly. One should be open minded with regards to the firearms available to us. Proficiency with revolvers is as important as proficiency with semi-autos. For self defense I much prefer my 1911. But in the field, where beasts may be involved, or even human beasts, I prefer a powerful revolver every time. Its the proper tool for the proper situation. Broaden your view and enjoy what we have. When they some day add ray guns to the mix, just bring it in with the rest. __________________ Oderint dum Metuant

July 9, 2009, 10:04 PM	#13
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	The complaint I hear more often about DA vs SA revolvers... ... is with the hard recoiling ones. The SA grip shape lends itself to rolling back in the hand, and dissipating some of the recoil force. The humpback shape of the DA grip doesn't roll so well, is more likely to pinch the web between thumb and forefinger, and transfers more apparent recoil to the hand. That said, I still generally prefer DA. The SA rolling back in my hand always felt weird to me.

July 9, 2009, 10:12 PM	#14
skydiver3346 Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,222	Semi autos and SA revolvers: Wish I only liked the ones you like Hellbilly: (SA's and semi autos)..... I sure would have a whole lot more $$$ if that was the case. But I just love 'em all and it gets pretty expensive when you like eveything!

July 9, 2009, 10:59 PM	#15
Hellbilly5000 Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2009 Location: RGV, Tx Posts: 787	I am not being narrow minded I just don't like da revolvers it's more of the grips on them I shoot them just fine and they are great for hunting with huge calibers I love almost every rifle from lever action to semi to bolt action __________________ And death climbs the steps one by one, To give you the rose that's been burnt by her son, Point me to the sky above I can't get there on my own, Walk me through the graveyard Dig up her bones

July 10, 2009, 12:12 AM	#16
iScream Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 89	I shoot my DA revolvers almost 100% SA. I like the DA though since it makes loading and unloading a lot easier. The Single Six is fun to shoot sometimes but it's such a pain to put in one cartridge at a time and have to push each one out individually. -Chris

July 10, 2009, 12:22 AM	#17
Rich Miranda Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2008 Location: San Antonio, not San Antone... Posts: 1,203	I definitely like the mystique and character of SA guns. There is just something about them that makes me want to work the action. Pistols and DA revolvers don't have that same feeling for me. I don't own any SAs yet, but only because the budget does not allow. __________________ Read this!: I collect .38 Special and .357 Mag cartridges and I will PAY CASH for the headstamps I don't already have! Please PM me. Please donate blood, plasma, and platelets - people's lives literally depend on it.

July 10, 2009, 06:34 AM	#18
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	I like SA revolvers, but I don't like them nearly as much as a good DA revolver. Oddly, I shot my DA in SA mode most of the time, but I do like having the option of DA or SA. Regardless of action type, and I have grown to really like some semi autos, you still can't beat a good revolver for looks and reliability. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

July 10, 2009, 08:13 AM	#19
jdscholer Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 1,197	Shooting DA has cured me of the trigger jerk/flinch problem that I was developing. It focuses my concentration on control of the gun rather than when the sear is going to release. If you haven't tried slow accurate shooting in DA, do yourself a favor. It just might be the start of a good habit. jd __________________ "We're all dummies, just in different ways." Old Okie Philosopher

July 10, 2009, 08:34 AM	#20
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	I hear you Hellbilly I am the same, like SA revolvers and semi auto pistols.... have shot DA revolvers, can take or leave them.... they look weird the hammerless ones nice guns tho, they are all good __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

July 10, 2009, 10:31 AM	#21
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	I think that during the 1950s and on into the 1960s, single action revolvers were in the ascendency, mainly because of their use in television westerns and in the movies. There were the popular sports of quick draw and fast draw, most contestents using single action revolvers. That's about when Jeff Cooper entered the picture. He started out managing some of these shooting games. So, somehow, people got the idea that single action revolvers were faster than double actions and apparently, more practical. Partly for the same reason, presumably, that's about when the first reproduction single actions hit the market, Great Western probably being the first. Large frame double actions were apparently scarce in the same period, although second hand New Service/M1917 revolvers for sale appeared in all the magazines. So overall, I don't think it's surprising that single actions were what people thought of when they thought of revolvers. Double action autos were just coming along around then, too, but people still thought of revolvers as being better, in spite of the numbers of European automatics that were being offered for sale then and most of them were single action. And that was 50 years ago! __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

July 11, 2009, 01:26 AM	#22
Hellbilly5000 Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2009 Location: RGV, Tx Posts: 787	Don't know if a sa is faster then a da but I think there more fun to shoot when it comes to shooting for pleasure. I guess if you practice with a sa then you would be faster with it. I do practice with da revolvers because I do love shooting and if you need to use a gun your first choice in guns may not be within reach. I do love em all but much like everyone else I do have my prefernces that I like to shoot (1911's and lever action rifles) __________________ And death climbs the steps one by one, To give you the rose that's been burnt by her son, Point me to the sky above I can't get there on my own, Walk me through the graveyard Dig up her bones

July 11, 2009, 01:36 AM	#23
Notenoughguns Member Join Date: December 14, 2008 Location: Kommiefornia Posts: 80	Everyone should own a DA to learn consistent trigger manipulation. If you can shoot DA proficiently you'll do good with any type handgun.

July 11, 2009, 07:38 AM	#24
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	Once you get a DA trigger nice an worn in and you get the staging down, it can be just as good as anything else. IMO, of course.

July 12, 2009, 07:46 PM	#25
Wobble Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 163	I have tried but can't learn to love DAs and the loooong trigger pull. And why have a DA if you normally shoot it in SA mode? Even my experienced friends have big problems with accuracy with DAs. I know -- practice, practice, practice...... As for SA revolvers being slow, it's possible to get rounds off as fast, or faster, with a SAA than with a semi, using weak-hand hammer thumbing (not "fanning").