Run drills?

Magog · January 8, 2011, 06:10 PM

I want to start drilling. Running form place to place and taking out targets and getting ready for the end of the world...

Any of you guys do this stuff?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBPwpTQDDA

DiscoRacing · January 8, 2011, 06:11 PM

Would be nice...

... I cant run... injury

..hope you have fun with it tho.

kx592 · January 8, 2011, 06:26 PM

Im in the same boat as you. I tried a walking and engaging and I did horrible, even though the target was about 4x4..Its a great ability though for HD application if the AR is your choice. I think you motivated me to cut up some silhouettes out of card board to use.

Magog · January 8, 2011, 07:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seh_1...eature=related

Looks fun. good exercise. These guys had a blast.

DiscoRacing · January 8, 2011, 07:05 PM

Brings back memories from Ft. Lost In The Woods.

egor20 · January 8, 2011, 07:09 PM

When I saw the first video, I was trying to figure out why the guy in the tan pants with the slung rifle kept pointing a silver pistol at him, DOH... then I saw it was a video cam.

My knees are way to shot to do the shoot and scoot stuff nowadays. But they look like they're having fun.

Willie Lowman · January 8, 2011, 07:21 PM

I like shooting practical pistol matches. I have wanted to get into 3 gun for a while but I'm always at work when one is held...

The guys in the video might call what they are doing, practice. I call it tempting fate.

Jimro · January 9, 2011, 10:48 AM

Airsoft or Paintball. The ranges at which you can accurately shoot while moving are about the same with airsoft/paintball as they are with firearms.

Just remember that cover for airsoft/paintball = concealment for firearms.

Jimro

kraigwy · January 9, 2011, 10:55 AM

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I want to start drilling. Running form place to place and taking out targets and getting ready for the end of the world...

I prepare for the "end of the world" on my knees..........but that's not gun related.

So for sporting purposes I would recommend getting involved in some action shooting competitions, 3 gun, Multi Gun, and such. Even Cowboy Action shooting.

You'll learn from others how to do it right and safe.

PzGren · January 9, 2011, 12:26 PM

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I prepare for the "end of the world" on my knees..........but that's not gun related.

The a.m. approach is what I came to believe in, despite all the military training and civil wars that I lived through.

...few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage.

Picher · January 9, 2011, 12:31 PM

I hate to burst your bubble, but if the end of the world came, running and shooting small arms just isn't going to cut it!

Brenten · January 9, 2011, 12:41 PM

well, first, not one magazine change in that drill

No barricade or cover in that drill either.

A novice making that little left u-turn around the cone could easily cover and possibly take out the isntructors....

be very careful when you attend these events. Not everyone is safety oriented. I have seen people jump out of a firing line while hot to bat at a bee that had landed on them, with their weapon.

Magog · January 9, 2011, 02:27 PM

That is why you have to drill. get better all the time.

crockett007 · January 9, 2011, 02:40 PM

join the marines

Magog · January 9, 2011, 02:48 PM

Oh yeah. I got wife and family I need to take care of.

But in the past this is why the puritans were such bad asses. they drilled all the time.

Every chance they had they drilled. they were all expert fighters.

Small in number they held their own vs much larger armies.

There whole idea is you can never rest, you can never allow evil to rest so drill drill drill!

It is all in the mind. you see it, and make it happen.

And it looks fun...

TPAW · January 9, 2011, 05:00 PM

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Looks fun. good exercise. These guys had a blast.

Sure they had a blast, there was no return fire. In reality, most of them would have been KIA or WIA. No cover and poor tactics.
But I guess it's all for the fun of it. Nice that they have the land to do that.

pelo801 · January 9, 2011, 05:04 PM

oh yeah, all summer long. mostly just cuz it's fun though. parctice mags changes, switching to sidearm and then back. differernt ranges, usually only out to about 80 yards though. this summer i might put one out to about 150 yards. i think it helped me. when i first started doing this, i noticed my breathing was all over the place, my heart was racing, i couldn't even hit the target at 40 yards half the time. after a while, i didn't notice my heart pounding, atleast it wasn't as much of a distraction, i could concentrate through hard breathing. my shots were all over the target still, but atleast on target and in groups. then i started getting groups more a COM. then i turned it into a competition with myself. but like i said it was all just fun. just something different to do.

jcwit · January 9, 2011, 05:17 PM

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I want to start drilling. Running form place to place and taking out targets and getting ready for the end of the world...

Any of you guys do this stuff?

You gotta be joking?

kx592 · January 9, 2011, 05:28 PM

I think the end of the world statement was a joke..at least im hoping

However, it would be beneficial to be able to shoot on the move, with or without the side arm. Its difficult and it makes for a good time

TPAW · January 9, 2011, 05:29 PM

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but like i said it was all just fun. just something different to do.

Enjoy it while you can. When you get to my age, drills like that are only in my past. Infantry, Vietnam, Home, Thank God. My best to you and your buddies.....

PzGren · January 9, 2011, 11:31 PM

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But in the past this is why the puritans were such bad asses. they drilled all the time.

Every chance they had they drilled. they were all expert fighters.

Small in number they held their own vs much larger armies.

That was before the inception of nightvision, thermal imaging, airstrikes, etc.

tirod · January 10, 2011, 09:51 AM

I found that deer hunting was Infantry training. I hunted about 10 years before I joined, and then went to FT Benning, where 80%+ of the instruction is outdoor and regardless of weather, snow, rain, or heat. Got all three while there.

You can run and gun, but most of the tactics of being outdoors on a two way live fire range aren't being practiced. LIVE in the woods, you have to have security up every minute, light and noise discipline, a continuous source of food and water, ammo resupply, and communications to those who do that. Moving overland means map reading skills and having a good reason to do it. Plus, understanding camo and tactical movement. The average hunter is usually one big noisy, smelly, brightly colored non resident out there, and it's a wonder we have the success rate we do.

Most of what the service teaches are avoidance measures, don't be seen, heard, smelled. Looking for trouble when you don't need to increases risk and the possibility of death - precisely what is meant to be avoided. But, some people only practice the cool stuff you only need to do in the worst case, not the boring stuff that prevents it.

Home invasion vs. good sense prevention, we get shoot em up on the net, not what it takes to keep it from happening. This is a fantasy, the real world is one step beyond the keyboard.

Art Eatman · January 10, 2011, 10:42 AM

Since there's no discussion of rifles...

January 8, 2011, 06:10 PM	#1
Magog Junior member Join Date: January 7, 2011 Posts: 222	Run drills? I want to start drilling. Running form place to place and taking out targets and getting ready for the end of the world... Any of you guys do this stuff? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBPwpTQDDA

January 8, 2011, 06:11 PM	#2
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Would be nice... ... I cant run... injury ..hope you have fun with it tho. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

January 8, 2011, 07:05 PM	#5
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Brings back memories from Ft. Lost In The Woods. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

January 8, 2011, 07:09 PM	#6
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	Magog When I saw the first video, I was trying to figure out why the guy in the tan pants with the slung rifle kept pointing a silver pistol at him, DOH... then I saw it was a video cam. My knees are way to shot to do the shoot and scoot stuff nowadays. But they look like they're having fun. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

January 8, 2011, 07:21 PM	#7
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	I like shooting practical pistol matches. I have wanted to get into 3 gun for a while but I'm always at work when one is held... The guys in the video might call what they are doing, practice. I call it tempting fate. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

January 8, 2011, 06:26 PM	#3
kx592 Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2009 Posts: 645	Im in the same boat as you. I tried a walking and engaging and I did horrible, even though the target was about 4x4..Its a great ability though for HD application if the AR is your choice. I think you motivated me to cut up some silhouettes out of card board to use.

January 8, 2011, 07:01 PM	#4
Magog Junior member Join Date: January 7, 2011 Posts: 222	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seh_1...eature=related Looks fun. good exercise. These guys had a blast.

January 9, 2011, 10:48 AM	#8
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	Airsoft or Paintball. The ranges at which you can accurately shoot while moving are about the same with airsoft/paintball as they are with firearms. Just remember that cover for airsoft/paintball = concealment for firearms. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

January 9, 2011, 12:31 PM	#11
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 3,696	I hate to burst your bubble, but if the end of the world came, running and shooting small arms just isn't going to cut it!

January 9, 2011, 12:41 PM	#12
Brenten Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2009 Posts: 208	well, first, not one magazine change in that drill No barricade or cover in that drill either. A novice making that little left u-turn around the cone could easily cover and possibly take out the isntructors.... be very careful when you attend these events. Not everyone is safety oriented. I have seen people jump out of a firing line while hot to bat at a bee that had landed on them, with their weapon.

January 9, 2011, 02:27 PM	#13
Magog Junior member Join Date: January 7, 2011 Posts: 222	That is why you have to drill. get better all the time.

January 9, 2011, 02:40 PM	#14
crockett007 Member Join Date: August 28, 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 27	join the marines

January 9, 2011, 02:48 PM	#15
Magog Junior member Join Date: January 7, 2011 Posts: 222	Oh yeah. I got wife and family I need to take care of. But in the past this is why the puritans were such bad asses. they drilled all the time. Every chance they had they drilled. they were all expert fighters. Small in number they held their own vs much larger armies. There whole idea is you can never rest, you can never allow evil to rest so drill drill drill! It is all in the mind. you see it, and make it happen. And it looks fun...

January 9, 2011, 05:04 PM	#17
pelo801 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2009 Posts: 718	oh yeah, all summer long. mostly just cuz it's fun though. parctice mags changes, switching to sidearm and then back. differernt ranges, usually only out to about 80 yards though. this summer i might put one out to about 150 yards. i think it helped me. when i first started doing this, i noticed my breathing was all over the place, my heart was racing, i couldn't even hit the target at 40 yards half the time. after a while, i didn't notice my heart pounding, atleast it wasn't as much of a distraction, i could concentrate through hard breathing. my shots were all over the target still, but atleast on target and in groups. then i started getting groups more a COM. then i turned it into a competition with myself. but like i said it was all just fun. just something different to do.

January 9, 2011, 05:28 PM	#19
kx592 Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2009 Posts: 645	I think the end of the world statement was a joke..at least im hoping However, it would be beneficial to be able to shoot on the move, with or without the side arm. Its difficult and it makes for a good time

January 10, 2011, 09:51 AM	#22
tirod Junior member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Posts: 1,672	I found that deer hunting was Infantry training. I hunted about 10 years before I joined, and then went to FT Benning, where 80%+ of the instruction is outdoor and regardless of weather, snow, rain, or heat. Got all three while there. You can run and gun, but most of the tactics of being outdoors on a two way live fire range aren't being practiced. LIVE in the woods, you have to have security up every minute, light and noise discipline, a continuous source of food and water, ammo resupply, and communications to those who do that. Moving overland means map reading skills and having a good reason to do it. Plus, understanding camo and tactical movement. The average hunter is usually one big noisy, smelly, brightly colored non resident out there, and it's a wonder we have the success rate we do. Most of what the service teaches are avoidance measures, don't be seen, heard, smelled. Looking for trouble when you don't need to increases risk and the possibility of death - precisely what is meant to be avoided. But, some people only practice the cool stuff you only need to do in the worst case, not the boring stuff that prevents it. Home invasion vs. good sense prevention, we get shoot em up on the net, not what it takes to keep it from happening. This is a fantasy, the real world is one step beyond the keyboard.

January 10, 2011, 10:42 AM	#23
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Since there's no discussion of rifles...