9mm vs mountian Lion - Page 2

Wolf Lies Down · October 9, 2007, 09:54 PM

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-Of course the 9mm (Luger ctg. and variants) will take a mountain line....of any size. Quick, too.

Heck there is at least one recorded case where a lady heading for the potty one dark night (or was she in her tent and had an unwelcome visitor? I forget.) Killed a full-grown male African lion with one shot from a .22 long rifle revolver.

Wolf Lies Down

DeathRodent · October 9, 2007, 11:51 PM

Wasn't there a man (older) up in one of the North Western States (Washington Islands maybe?) that got jumped from behind by a cougar and kille dit with his 4 inch folding pocket knife?

This was within the last year or two I believe.

Anyway, just shooting the gun should scare the lion away.

I think the 9mm would be fine.

Justme · October 10, 2007, 12:32 AM

For self defense I would prefer the 9mm to the mountain lion, easier to control and much easier to conceal.

funon1 · October 10, 2007, 12:35 AM

unless it was one's only choice. Even a .22 is better than nothing, but neither are prudent choices, IMHO. Use enough gun...

funon1

Socrates · October 10, 2007, 08:43 AM

Anybody used bear spray on cats?

I LIKE cats....

S

fisherman66 · October 10, 2007, 09:08 AM

Socrates, I think certain meanings are lost in translation. It might "all be Greek to me", but [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] cat and pu$$y are not the same thing. Please forgive my vulgarity.

cryption · October 10, 2007, 09:33 AM

Justme, you made me laugh in class and look stupid .... haha that was funny

clem · October 10, 2007, 09:54 AM

You'll need more then a 9MM to stop this killer!

fisherman66 · October 10, 2007, 10:01 AM

Is that Cerberus or Orthos, clem? Guardian to the gates of tupperware hell.

CajunBass · October 10, 2007, 11:29 AM

I don't know how a 9mm would do, but I think I'd worry more about being attacked by aliens from another planet than being attacked by a mountain lion.

I read about a LOT more alien attacks back before "The World Weekly News" went out of business.

clem · October 10, 2007, 11:56 AM

Fisherman66,
"Is that Cerberus or Orthos, clem? Guardian to the gates of tupperware hell.".

No, this is Cinnamon, the Guardian of "let's eat something!".

davlandrum · October 10, 2007, 12:13 PM

Faced with a "in your face life or death right now" conflict with a cat, a 9mm is better than nothing. Heck, a stick is better than nothing.

I carry a .45 while bowhunting as lion defense. I know 2 people that have been stalked while bowhunting and had to kill the cat with an arrow. Now it is legal for bowhunters to carry a sidearm.

All that aside, I realize the first time I might know I am on the menu is when Big Tom hits me from behind. After that it is all about how bad you want to live. Maybe a myth, but I have been told they are very protective of thier eyes.

CrazyIvan007 · October 10, 2007, 12:48 PM

Mountain Lions will normally retreat if you act aggressively toward them. In the case where they don't, pepper spray/mace or even something as small as a pellet rifle will make them run.

Animals are not like humans, especially felines. If they get an ever-so-slightly amount of pain from an unsuspected source, they will retreat just because it startles them.

But, I carry my 1911 .45 when I am in the high country here. Good enough for most of the critters around Colorado, except maybe a large Bull Elk, which we do get on occassion. And, I wouldn't shoot unless it charged me, which is probably the case of most people here, I would hope.

MyXD40 · October 10, 2007, 12:54 PM

I would have no problem shooting an animal that charges me. I just hope I'll never have to come to that, because I don't want to kill anyone, or any animal. And I don't carry mace so my firearm is the only protection..

Musketeer · October 10, 2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Can a 9mm take this guy... it doesn't have to be in one shot.

It may, it may not. This is no different than with a person. Of course most mountain lions like to pounce on you from behind so you will not have much time to do anything before it sinks its teeth into your neck.

Would I use a 9mm if I had it, sure.

Would I like to have more than a 9mm, certainly.

Would I prefer to be with another person who is also armed to get the thing off me... DAMN STAIGHT!!!

**Mal H** · October 10, 2007, 01:48 PM

Closed.

Either the question has been answered by now or it never will be.

View Poll Results: 9 vs mountain lion
9mm	54	60.00%
no the mountain lion would eat you	36	40.00%
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October 9, 2007, 09:54 PM	#26
Wolf Lies Down Member Join Date: October 1, 2007 Location: California Posts: 53	Easy -- -Of course the 9mm (Luger ctg. and variants) will take a mountain line....of any size. Quick, too. Heck there is at least one recorded case where a lady heading for the potty one dark night (or was she in her tent and had an unwelcome visitor? I forget.) Killed a full-grown male African lion with one shot from a .22 long rifle revolver. Wolf Lies Down

October 9, 2007, 11:51 PM	#27
DeathRodent Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2006 Posts: 209	Wasn't there a man (older) up in one of the North Western States (Washington Islands maybe?) that got jumped from behind by a cougar and kille dit with his 4 inch folding pocket knife? This was within the last year or two I believe. Anyway, just shooting the gun should scare the lion away. I think the 9mm would be fine. __________________ You cannot arm slaves and expect them to remain slaves, nor can you disarm a free people and expect them to remain free.

October 10, 2007, 12:35 AM	#29
funon1 Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Location: WA state Posts: 361	I vote "no" unless it was one's only choice. Even a .22 is better than nothing, but neither are prudent choices, IMHO. Use enough gun... funon1

October 10, 2007, 09:08 AM	#31
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,686	Socrates, I think certain meanings are lost in translation. It might "all be Greek to me", but [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] cat and pu$$y are not the same thing. Please forgive my vulgarity. __________________ la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!

October 10, 2007, 12:32 AM	#28
Justme Junior member Join Date: June 6, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,066	For self defense I would prefer the 9mm to the mountain lion, easier to control and much easier to conceal.

October 10, 2007, 08:43 AM	#30
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	Anybody used bear spray on cats? I LIKE cats.... S

October 10, 2007, 09:33 AM	#32
cryption Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2007 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 247	Justme, you made me laugh in class and look stupid .... haha that was funny

October 10, 2007, 09:54 AM	#33
clem Junior member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 847	You'll need more then a 9MM to stop this killer!

October 10, 2007, 10:01 AM	#34
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,686	Is that Cerberus or Orthos, clem? Guardian to the gates of tupperware hell. __________________ la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!

October 10, 2007, 11:29 AM	#35
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,768	I don't know how a 9mm would do, but I think I'd worry more about being attacked by aliens from another planet than being attacked by a mountain lion. I read about a LOT more alien attacks back before "The World Weekly News" went out of business. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

October 10, 2007, 11:56 AM	#36
clem Junior member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 847	Fisherman66, "Is that Cerberus or Orthos, clem? Guardian to the gates of tupperware hell.". No, this is Cinnamon, the Guardian of "let's eat something!".

October 10, 2007, 12:13 PM	#37
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	Faced with a "in your face life or death right now" conflict with a cat, a 9mm is better than nothing. Heck, a stick is better than nothing. I carry a .45 while bowhunting as lion defense. I know 2 people that have been stalked while bowhunting and had to kill the cat with an arrow. Now it is legal for bowhunters to carry a sidearm. All that aside, I realize the first time I might know I am on the menu is when Big Tom hits me from behind. After that it is all about how bad you want to live. Maybe a myth, but I have been told they are very protective of thier eyes. __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

October 10, 2007, 12:48 PM	#38
CrazyIvan007 Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 618	Mountain Lions will normally retreat if you act aggressively toward them. In the case where they don't, pepper spray/mace or even something as small as a pellet rifle will make them run. Animals are not like humans, especially felines. If they get an ever-so-slightly amount of pain from an unsuspected source, they will retreat just because it startles them. But, I carry my 1911 .45 when I am in the high country here. Good enough for most of the critters around Colorado, except maybe a large Bull Elk, which we do get on occassion. And, I wouldn't shoot unless it charged me, which is probably the case of most people here, I would hope.

October 10, 2007, 12:54 PM	#39
MyXD40 Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2007 Posts: 541	I would have no problem shooting an animal that charges me. I just hope I'll never have to come to that, because I don't want to kill anyone, or any animal. And I don't carry mace so my firearm is the only protection.. __________________ $49.99

October 10, 2007, 01:48 PM	#41
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Closed. Either the question has been answered by now or it never will be.