Bigger than "Hogzilla!" killed in Alabama

CrazyIvan007 · October 24, 2007, 02:18 PM

I found this on CNN.com on their slideshow:
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/2691965/detail.html

Because that thing gets moved & deleted quickly, I took a screenshot and added the caption to the picture and here it is:
One DAMN big hog!
Pardon the mispelling on "Pig" where I spelled it "Pic" DOH!

Musketeer · October 24, 2007, 02:21 PM

It is a big pig but the photo uses a forced perspective technique to make it look much bigger. This is old news. As I understand it the animal was chased for some time while this kid put 11 rounds into it... God forbid someone simply put it down with a rifle when the handgun failed. It is also a domestic gone feral I believe and it was on a "hunt ranch".

CrazyIvan007 · October 24, 2007, 02:23 PM

Most pigs in the wild here in the US are escapee ranch animals.

Either way, I still wouldn't want to see that pig on my nature hike. lol

I am just fascinated how a domesticated ranch pig can return to the wildness of its ancestors so quickly. Supposedly this transformation is the quickest transformation in nature; not only in attitude of the animal, but in physical aspects. It is almost a mutation. Tusks, furr, larger hooves & teeth can appear in just under a month from escaping captivity...amazing to me.

Fremmer · October 24, 2007, 02:48 PM

Goodness, can you imagine the job it would be to gut that thing......:barf:

john1911 · October 24, 2007, 04:10 PM

Not to be a smarta**, but welcome to 6 months ago.

CrazyIvan007 · October 24, 2007, 04:12 PM

Hey Hick News comes slow up here in the North.

FirstFreedom · October 24, 2007, 04:14 PM

We talked about this one awhile back, and the consensus was that it was probably a farm-raised swine, released prior to the "hunt". There was quite a bit of evidence of deception on the part of the promoters/"hunters":

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...light=hogzilla

davlandrum · October 24, 2007, 04:31 PM

I would have to find the follow-up story, but IIRC, when the picture hit the media, the couple who had lost the pig showed up. It had not gone wild, just escaped.

whiskey · October 24, 2007, 09:49 PM

My dad lives near by where this beast was killed. The pig had been a "farm pet" not a house pet. It was sold to a hunt farm the way I heard it. The pig had a name and the local news had a field day with the story.

I have no doubt that this kid enjoyed the hunt. To me that is the important thing.

I remember reading stories about this "child" receiving death threats from PETA types for killing a "pet".

Here is the story according to the boy and his dad
http://www.monsterpig.com/get_the_truth.htm

TCman · October 24, 2007, 10:01 PM

He must have been a pretty good shot. Look at the holes in the gut.

CrazyIvan007 · October 24, 2007, 11:23 PM

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He must have been a pretty good shot. Look at the holes in the gut.

LOL, Yea, it is such a hard thing to hit such a humungo animal...lol

CamoCop · October 24, 2007, 11:39 PM

that one still isn't bigger than the one killed here in Florida a couple years back. also the one killed here in Florida wasn't someone's pet that was bought and released for a high priced hunt.

FrontSight · October 25, 2007, 12:19 AM

sorry to rain on your parade, but there's been a huge uproar over this...turns out it used to be someone's pet, named Fred. Legal pen hunt, but still, the kid shot at it numerous times, hit it way too many to be humane. Pics were doctored to make it look much bigger than it is. Poor kid has been ostracized, wished they had never told anyone. Very sad that the dad would choose to do these things, very bad example for an 11 year old in my opinion and can very well destroy the kid's life from the negative impact.

king.460 · October 25, 2007, 06:37 AM

Another case of giving Alabamians a rogue hillbilly persona.

We're not all that way...

Double Naught Spy · October 25, 2007, 07:57 AM

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Most pigs in the wild here in the US are escapee ranch animals.

With the exception of their cousins, the javelina (not true pigs, but in a different family), all of the pigs in the wild of the US are escapee ranch aimals or are pigs let loose. Heck in Texas in the 1800s, many folks free-ranged pigs, no doubt resulting in many being introduced into the wilds.

CrazyIvan007 · October 25, 2007, 01:50 PM

I'm just fascinated by their ability to quickly and practically mutate back to the form of their ancestors.

Bigfatts · October 25, 2007, 04:32 PM

From what I heard, the kid and his father didn't know the pig was a farm raised animal. They really thought it was a monster wild hog until the story broke loose.

Double Naught Spy · October 25, 2007, 05:36 PM

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I'm just fascinated by their ability to quickly and practically mutate back to the form of their ancestors.

First, it isn't mutation, but adaptation. Second, they are not going back to their ancestors in mutating, adapting, or devolving. They are simply adapting within their genetic code. Fourth, and which ancestors would they be mutating back to? In looking a suid phylogeny, ancestors of modern pigs come in a variety of sizes, many of which are smaller than their modern counterparts. The fact that many pigs in the wild are large is not that they have reverted to anything. That is farmer breeding. Also, pigs are adaptive. In the pacific islands, historically abandoned pigs left to fend for themselves have developed into much smaller sized pigs than their mainland counterparts.

CrazyIvan007 · October 25, 2007, 06:48 PM

Exactly.

If you go out into the wild, you may grow long hair, lose some teeth and get dirty.

But, how many animals are released or go into the wild, (like a very-short haired pink pig) begin to grow furr, grow tusks and get inscisors sharpened by other teeth? Their hooves harden (yes, we get calusses), they become very aggressive and so much other stuff.

I know it is not a mutation...DUH. I'm just saying the transformation made by a little pink, docile (for the most part) pig when it is put into the wild is amazing.

CamoCop · October 26, 2007, 01:54 AM

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bighog.asp

tomh1426 · October 26, 2007, 02:14 AM

What gun was that kid shooting?
How many times did he shoot it?
Seems like alot of gun for a 11 year old

CrazyIvan007 · October 26, 2007, 10:06 AM

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http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bighog.asp

LOL, They propped the scoop of that front loader up with cinder blocks.

Thanks for the link, it about clears it up.

elrod · October 26, 2007, 09:10 PM

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What gun was that kid shooting?

S&W 500

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How many times did he shoot it?

I believe it was 16. Don't hold me to that, but I recall he had to reload at least twice.

Double Naught Spy · October 27, 2007, 07:15 AM

Yes, it wasn't what most hunters would consider to be a clean kill at all. There seemed to be shots all over it.

JKump · October 27, 2007, 07:49 AM

Just a side note. Of all domestic animals, the pig/hog goes feral the fastest.

October 24, 2007, 02:18 PM	#1
CrazyIvan007 Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 618	Bigger than "Hogzilla!" killed in Alabama I found this on CNN.com on their slideshow: http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/2691965/detail.html Because that thing gets moved & deleted quickly, I took a screenshot and added the caption to the picture and here it is: One DAMN big hog! Pardon the mispelling on "Pig" where I spelled it "Pic" DOH!

October 24, 2007, 02:21 PM	#2
Musketeer Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2005 Posts: 3,733	It is a big pig but the photo uses a forced perspective technique to make it look much bigger. This is old news. As I understand it the animal was chased for some time while this kid put 11 rounds into it... God forbid someone simply put it down with a rifle when the handgun failed. It is also a domestic gone feral I believe and it was on a "hunt ranch". __________________ "Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." Thomas Jefferson "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

October 24, 2007, 04:10 PM	#5
john1911 Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2006 Location: The relatively sane part of IL Posts: 383	Not to be a smarta**, but welcome to 6 months ago. __________________ Almost any problem can be solved by a liberal dose of .45 230 gr JHPs.

October 24, 2007, 04:31 PM	#8
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	I would have to find the follow-up story, but IIRC, when the picture hit the media, the couple who had lost the pig showed up. It had not gone wild, just escaped. __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

October 24, 2007, 09:49 PM	#9
whiskey Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2000 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 431	My dad lives near by where this beast was killed. The pig had been a "farm pet" not a house pet. It was sold to a hunt farm the way I heard it. The pig had a name and the local news had a field day with the story. I have no doubt that this kid enjoyed the hunt. To me that is the important thing. I remember reading stories about this "child" receiving death threats from PETA types for killing a "pet". Here is the story according to the boy and his dad http://www.monsterpig.com/get_the_truth.htm __________________ "So he cocked both his pistols, spit in the dirt and walked out in to the street."

October 24, 2007, 02:23 PM	#3
CrazyIvan007 Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 618	Most pigs in the wild here in the US are escapee ranch animals. Either way, I still wouldn't want to see that pig on my nature hike. lol I am just fascinated how a domesticated ranch pig can return to the wildness of its ancestors so quickly. Supposedly this transformation is the quickest transformation in nature; not only in attitude of the animal, but in physical aspects. It is almost a mutation. Tusks, furr, larger hooves & teeth can appear in just under a month from escaping captivity...amazing to me.

October 24, 2007, 02:48 PM	#4
Fremmer Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 3,482	Goodness, can you imagine the job it would be to gut that thing......:barf:

October 24, 2007, 04:12 PM	#6
CrazyIvan007 Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 618	Hey Hick News comes slow up here in the North.

October 24, 2007, 04:14 PM	#7
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	We talked about this one awhile back, and the consensus was that it was probably a farm-raised swine, released prior to the "hunt". There was quite a bit of evidence of deception on the part of the promoters/"hunters": http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...light=hogzilla

October 24, 2007, 10:01 PM	#10
TCman Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 514	He must have been a pretty good shot. Look at the holes in the gut. __________________ Il keep my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep the change.

October 24, 2007, 11:39 PM	#12
CamoCop Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 133	that one still isn't bigger than the one killed here in Florida a couple years back. also the one killed here in Florida wasn't someone's pet that was bought and released for a high priced hunt.

October 25, 2007, 12:19 AM	#13
FrontSight Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2005 Posts: 1,712	sorry to rain on your parade, but there's been a huge uproar over this...turns out it used to be someone's pet, named Fred. Legal pen hunt, but still, the kid shot at it numerous times, hit it way too many to be humane. Pics were doctored to make it look much bigger than it is. Poor kid has been ostracized, wished they had never told anyone. Very sad that the dad would choose to do these things, very bad example for an 11 year old in my opinion and can very well destroy the kid's life from the negative impact. __________________ To kill something as great as a duck just to smell the gunpowder is a crime against nature. - Alan Liere Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. - George Bernard Shaw

October 25, 2007, 06:37 AM	#14
king.460 Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Hale County, AL Posts: 103	Another case of giving Alabamians a rogue hillbilly persona. We're not all that way...

October 25, 2007, 01:50 PM	#16
CrazyIvan007 Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 618	I'm just fascinated by their ability to quickly and practically mutate back to the form of their ancestors.

October 25, 2007, 04:32 PM	#17
Bigfatts Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2005 Location: Lutz Posts: 1,528	From what I heard, the kid and his father didn't know the pig was a farm raised animal. They really thought it was a monster wild hog until the story broke loose.

October 25, 2007, 06:48 PM	#19
CrazyIvan007 Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 618	Exactly. If you go out into the wild, you may grow long hair, lose some teeth and get dirty. But, how many animals are released or go into the wild, (like a very-short haired pink pig) begin to grow furr, grow tusks and get inscisors sharpened by other teeth? Their hooves harden (yes, we get calusses), they become very aggressive and so much other stuff. I know it is not a mutation...DUH. I'm just saying the transformation made by a little pink, docile (for the most part) pig when it is put into the wild is amazing.

October 26, 2007, 01:54 AM	#20
CamoCop Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 133	http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bighog.asp

October 26, 2007, 02:14 AM	#21
tomh1426 Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2005 Location: Youngtown Arizona Posts: 1,135	What gun was that kid shooting? How many times did he shoot it? Seems like alot of gun for a 11 year old

October 27, 2007, 07:15 AM	#24
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Yes, it wasn't what most hunters would consider to be a clean kill at all. There seemed to be shots all over it.

October 27, 2007, 07:49 AM	#25
JKump Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 1998 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 428	Just a side note. Of all domestic animals, the pig/hog goes feral the fastest. __________________ Live everyday as if it is your last! Because someday you will be right. "Everyone has a game plan until they get punched in the mouth".