I got ripped off

David Bachelder · May 7, 2024, 12:21 PM

I can't believe I was this stupid ..... well maybe I can.

I found a site that had many primers and a lot of different powders, all at fair prices.

Too good to be true? Turns out the old saying is true. I fell for it hook line and sinker, what aggravates me is that I felt like something was wrong. Turns out that I should have listened to my gut.

The site was riflearmory.com
Email Address was Marlene [email protected]
I'm absolutely sure that everything she told me was a lie.

I ordered primers and powder, again my senses told me something was wrong when they said their credit card system was out and I needed to provide funding through PayPal. Then added be sure to list it as Payment to friends or family. FYI ... if you pay to friends and family you have surrendered any chance of getting help from PayPal. She must have known this.

Like an idiot I did as requested.

Five days after my order I asked if my product had shipped. I was told that it was going out later today. I asked to have the tracking number sent to me when it shipped. I was told "No problem" we always do that.

Of course, no tracking number was ever sent, and the imaginary package never arrived.

In the end I lost $167.50, not exactly the end of the world but after all it was stolen from me.

After all of this I did a search for reviews on this company. There were several and all of them reported being ripped off. I wish I had looked earlier; hindsight is 20/20.

Do not ever do anything like that, if you senses tell you no, listen to it.

If it's too good to be true, then it probably isn't.

David Bachelder

Jim Watson · May 7, 2024, 01:17 PM

A Roger M. reports fraud there on Trustpilot. Other cases here and there.

I was very leery about ordering from American Reloading but posters on THR say it is ok and they are in BBB. So I did. We shall see.

**Unclenick** · May 7, 2024, 02:39 PM

Whois says riflearmory.com is available to buy as a website name, so perhaps it has been shut down if you didn't remember it wrong or misspell it.

Jim Watson · May 7, 2024, 04:27 PM

it is Rifle-Armory.com

math teacher · May 7, 2024, 07:44 PM

This is not the only one. I ran into one from the Midwest. Fortunately the alarm bells went off. If they won't take credit cards, or ask you to make payment to a private account, they are a scam. Watch out if they have everything in stock that you can't find elsewhere. Their sites look pretty real as they copy from legitimate sites.

rmh3481 · May 7, 2024, 08:06 PM

David,
Im sorry that this happened to you.

Dont ever buy anything online that cannot be paid for with a Credit Card.

Maybe Paypal can do something for you? Call them up and ask.

Good luck.

math teacher · May 7, 2024, 08:41 PM

The scammers will give you instructions that get around Paypal's protection. They ask you to lie which is a giveaway.

Prof Young · May 8, 2024, 12:27 PM

When I do business with an unknown-to-me company via the internet I start small. When Everglades Ammo was recommended to me I initially ordered a small batch of bullets. Their sight looked legit, they took a credit card and seemed to have good reviews. First order went fine and I've ordered from them occasionally when I can't find what I want else where or when they have a good sale.

Life is good.
Prof Young

georgehwbush · May 8, 2024, 04:03 PM

yeah; i was looking for large rifle primers and found a fraud site. fellow i was dealing with about the site noticed that they didn't ask for a mailing address (ground address) before quoting shipping price and red flagged it. we didn't buy and upon investigation found it to be fraudulent.

gwpercle · May 9, 2024, 04:04 PM

Always ... and I mean ALL Ways ... Listen to your Spidey-Man Senses ...

When they tell you something ain't right ... chances are Something Ain't Right !

You got to Listen and Trust that sense !

Sorry you got Ripped Off ... Powder Valley at www.powdervalley.com is honest and legit site ... I have bought from them many times .
Gary

Nathan · May 9, 2024, 06:46 PM

Sorry you were ripped off. Thanks for the heads up!

DaleA · May 10, 2024, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Sorry you were ripped off. Thanks for the heads up!

Same here...thanks for the warning.

THEWELSHM · May 10, 2024, 06:51 PM

What a bummer, thanks for the heads up mate.

Thewelshm

Jim Watson · May 11, 2024, 08:12 AM

Sad case. I asked around and looked up one shop before I ordered. The delay kept me from getting the best price, but still pretty good.

FITASC · May 11, 2024, 07:49 PM

I saw a site that looked just like a legit Browning retailer; perfect photos, awesome availability, and pricing to die for. They had listed models no one else had; only took Zelle, PP, Venmo or bitcoin, no credit cards. no money orders, etc. What a magical scam site someone out in hours to create

If a site sounds too good and does not take credit cards or USPS money orders, RUN AWAY!

snoeproe · May 12, 2024, 12:21 PM

There was a site in Canada scamming people for reloading products recently also. No credit cards accepted. ATM etransfer payments or bitcoin only.
I remember the website advertising our second amendment rights. We don’t have a second amendment in Canada. lol. stay far away.

TimRB · May 12, 2024, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rmh3481

Maybe Paypal can do something for you?

I think that if a buyer uses Friends and Family on Paypal his protection is zero. Another site I frequent actually has a rule prohibiting F&F in their buy/sell forum. If a seller insisted on F&F I would consider it a red flag.

Tim

May 7, 2024, 12:21 PM	#1
David Bachelder Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2011 Location: Trinity, Texas Posts: 637	I got ripped off I can't believe I was this stupid ..... well maybe I can. I found a site that had many primers and a lot of different powders, all at fair prices. Too good to be true? Turns out the old saying is true. I fell for it hook line and sinker, what aggravates me is that I felt like something was wrong. Turns out that I should have listened to my gut. The site was riflearmory.com Email Address was Marlene [email protected] I'm absolutely sure that everything she told me was a lie. I ordered primers and powder, again my senses told me something was wrong when they said their credit card system was out and I needed to provide funding through PayPal. Then added be sure to list it as Payment to friends or family. FYI ... if you pay to friends and family you have surrendered any chance of getting help from PayPal. She must have known this. Like an idiot I did as requested. Five days after my order I asked if my product had shipped. I was told that it was going out later today. I asked to have the tracking number sent to me when it shipped. I was told "No problem" we always do that. Of course, no tracking number was ever sent, and the imaginary package never arrived. In the end I lost $167.50, not exactly the end of the world but after all it was stolen from me. After all of this I did a search for reviews on this company. There were several and all of them reported being ripped off. I wish I had looked earlier; hindsight is 20/20. Do not ever do anything like that, if you senses tell you no, listen to it. If it's too good to be true, then it probably isn't. David Bachelder __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, Texas I load, 9mm Luger, 38 and 40 S&W, 38 Special, 357Magnum, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 223, 300 AAC, 243 and 30-06

May 7, 2024, 02:39 PM	#3
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,093	Whois says riflearmory.com is available to buy as a website name, so perhaps it has been shut down if you didn't remember it wrong or misspell it. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

May 7, 2024, 07:44 PM	#5
math teacher Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2012 Location: Southwest WA Coast Posts: 561	Scams This is not the only one. I ran into one from the Midwest. Fortunately the alarm bells went off. If they won't take credit cards, or ask you to make payment to a private account, they are a scam. Watch out if they have everything in stock that you can't find elsewhere. Their sites look pretty real as they copy from legitimate sites.

May 7, 2024, 08:41 PM	#7
math teacher Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2012 Location: Southwest WA Coast Posts: 561	Scams The scammers will give you instructions that get around Paypal's protection. They ask you to lie which is a giveaway.

May 8, 2024, 12:27 PM	#8
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,416	Sorry this happened to you. Here's an idea . . . When I do business with an unknown-to-me company via the internet I start small. When Everglades Ammo was recommended to me I initially ordered a small batch of bullets. Their sight looked legit, they took a credit card and seemed to have good reviews. First order went fine and I've ordered from them occasionally when I can't find what I want else where or when they have a good sale. Life is good. Prof Young

May 7, 2024, 01:17 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,587	A Roger M. reports fraud there on Trustpilot. Other cases here and there. I was very leery about ordering from American Reloading but posters on THR say it is ok and they are in BBB. So I did. We shall see.

May 7, 2024, 04:27 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,587	it is Rifle-Armory.com

May 7, 2024, 08:06 PM	#6
rmh3481 Member Join Date: August 25, 2015 Location: Western Pa Posts: 60	David, Im sorry that this happened to you. Dont ever buy anything online that cannot be paid for with a Credit Card. Maybe Paypal can do something for you? Call them up and ask. Good luck.

May 8, 2024, 04:03 PM	#9
georgehwbush Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2023 Location: down town USA Posts: 233	yeah; i was looking for large rifle primers and found a fraud site. fellow i was dealing with about the site noticed that they didn't ask for a mailing address (ground address) before quoting shipping price and red flagged it. we didn't buy and upon investigation found it to be fraudulent. __________________ "if you have a good shooting stance, you are not using cover correctly" father frog

May 9, 2024, 04:04 PM	#10
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,757	Always ... and I mean ALL Ways ... Listen to your Spidey-Man Senses ... When they tell you something ain't right ... chances are Something Ain't Right ! You got to Listen and Trust that sense ! Sorry you got Ripped Off ... Powder Valley at www.powdervalley.com is honest and legit site ... I have bought from them many times . Gary

May 9, 2024, 06:46 PM	#11
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,350	Sorry you were ripped off. Thanks for the heads up!

May 10, 2024, 06:51 PM	#13
THEWELSHM Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2015 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 237	What a bummer, thanks for the heads up mate. Thewelshm

May 11, 2024, 08:12 AM	#14
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,587	Sad case. I asked around and looked up one shop before I ordered. The delay kept me from getting the best price, but still pretty good.

May 11, 2024, 07:49 PM	#15
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,464	I saw a site that looked just like a legit Browning retailer; perfect photos, awesome availability, and pricing to die for. They had listed models no one else had; only took Zelle, PP, Venmo or bitcoin, no credit cards. no money orders, etc. What a magical scam site someone out in hours to create If a site sounds too good and does not take credit cards or USPS money orders, RUN AWAY! __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

May 12, 2024, 12:21 PM	#16
snoeproe Member Join Date: December 10, 2023 Posts: 36	There was a site in Canada scamming people for reloading products recently also. No credit cards accepted. ATM etransfer payments or bitcoin only. I remember the website advertising our second amendment rights. We don’t have a second amendment in Canada. lol. stay far away.