New model Sig .380 coming soon - Page 2

Firepower! · January 9, 2009, 10:23 AM

"Why would this keep you from purchasing this gun?"
Because thats what made me lean towards Sigs. without decockers they fall way below HK and Glock!

"Putting a decocker on a SA gun is a bit silly IMO."
Did not know this was SA.

HKFan9 · January 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

I just wish they would make a Sig p230 in 9mm, I LOVE that gun, but cant justify buying a .380 that is bigger than my PM-9 when .380 ammo is weaker and more expensive.

predecessor · January 9, 2009, 09:50 PM

If the price is right, I will add both the Walther and the Sig to my .380 collection. Not sure I need the Khar though...

ezriderga · January 9, 2009, 11:33 PM

I do see some similarities between the Sig and the Mustang. Man do I love my Colt, my daily carry.

michael t · January 10, 2009, 01:09 AM

I'll keep my 2 Mustangs Sig doesn't interest me Mustang hard to beat for a nice carry pistol. Wish more people had bought them Colt might still be makeing them if they had..

David the Gnome · January 10, 2009, 10:04 AM

I'd love to have a Colt Mustang but for what they go for nowadays I can't justify the purchase. The P238 is an opportunity to get a gun NIB very close to the Mustang at a reasonable price and with a full factory warranty.

Phantom Captain · January 10, 2009, 01:08 PM

Well I for one am all over that Walther PK380. Just wow. I know my girlfriend will love the size and feel of it too.

I'm a pretty big Walther fan owning a P99 AS (German) and a PPK/s and will definitely have to add this new little beauty to the family.

By the looks, size and weight of it it might even edge out my PPK/s for daily carry. Can't wait til they come out now and I can handle one instead of just drooling over the pic.

2cooltoolz · January 10, 2009, 03:40 PM

Well, I've been waithing for months for the Kahr P380. Found them now pre-selling in the mid $500 range. Now SIG gives me another reason to wait. I like Kahr...but I love SIG!

LanceOregon · January 12, 2009, 12:53 PM

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Well, I've been waithing for months for the Kahr P380. Found them now pre-selling in the mid $500 range. Now SIG gives me another reason to wait. I like Kahr...but I love SIG!

This class of little .380 pistols screams for pocket carry.

And to be honest, I'm not that hot on carrying a single action weapon inside my pocket.

The last thing that I want is an accidental discharge inside my pants!!

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stephen426 · January 12, 2009, 01:12 PM

I have to admit I'm shocked by the amount of interest in a .380 acp gun. I thought most people put the minimum caliber at 9mm. There are many who don't even trust the 9mm as a man stopper.

I'm curious how small the final product will be. If I can get a more powerful gun in a similar sized package, I would not go with a .380 acp.

LanceOregon · January 12, 2009, 01:23 PM

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I have to admit I'm shocked by the amount of interest in a .380 acp gun. I thought most people put the minimum caliber at 9mm. There are many who don't even trust the 9mm as a man stopper.

You must have missed the thread about the NAA Mini .22 Revolvers being touted for self defense.

I pointed out that the ballistics from NAA's own website showed that using the most powerful ammo available, the .22 LR model generates about 1/4 the amount of energy as a decent .380 self defense load.

You basically would have to empty the gun ( they only hold 5 shots ) into a target in order to just slightly exceed the impact of a single .380 round.

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alloy · January 12, 2009, 01:40 PM

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I have to admit I'm shocked by the amount of interest in a .380 acp gun.

what interest, 11 guys on a gun forum? i admit its hard to find folks around here that arent devoted to the great street combat caliber wars....but we usually hang in these itty-bitty threads(infrequent as they are) and hope no one laughs too hard at our cap guns.

trespass · January 12, 2009, 02:32 PM

personally, I am impressed with the photo of the sig...yes, clear
resemblance to mustang, only much sharper in looks...
wonder if it has an ambi safety?...and 380 for defense? you betcha...
a well loaded 380 is often superior to a standard 38 snubby and
easier to pack. nothing against the 9's and are some fine ones out there...
but personally, I am more likely at any given moment to be carrying the
lighter 380...unless I know I may be in harm's way...then I carry BOTH!

gilfo · January 12, 2009, 02:34 PM

I would like to look into it also, IF it was NOT a single action. Can't see ccw with a c/l 380. Just my opinion

KyJim · January 12, 2009, 05:14 PM

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I have to admit I'm shocked by the amount of interest in a .380 acp gun. I thought most people put the minimum caliber at 9mm.

It's not about caliber, it's about size and having a gun when you need it. Many of us have to dress neatly with shirts tucked into pants with normal size pockets. Pocket carry is very attractive. A small, flat gun like the proposed Sig (or the Colt Mustang I carry now) conceals better in a pocket holster than even a J-frame. Anything bigger is out for many of us.

Sulaco2 · January 12, 2009, 05:37 PM

That picture of the Sig .380 if it is correct looks to me an awful lot like an AMT Backup .380, no? The single action was not my fav pocket carry at all....

Playboypenguin · January 12, 2009, 05:40 PM

When you compare it side by side with the Colt you can clearly see it is a very similar design. I wonder if I will almost blind myself by letting that spring loaded piece under the safety fly out and hit me in the face if I buy the Sig like I did with my Colt the first tie I stripped it.

stephen426 · January 12, 2009, 05:42 PM

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It's not about caliber, it's about size and having a gun when you need it. Many of us have to dress neatly with shirts tucked into pants with normal size pockets. Pocket carry is very attractive. A small, flat gun like the proposed Sig (or the Colt Mustang I carry now) conceals better in a pocket holster than even a J-frame. Anything bigger is out for many of us.

Good point. My Kahr MK9 fits my pocket very well and I conceal it by carrying my wallet in front of it. This is with normal pleated pants. Flat front pants tend to show exactly how much change you are carrying

. The Rohrbach 9mm is a bit on the pricey side, but you still get 9mm power.

Shadi Khalil · January 12, 2009, 06:01 PM

Its a small gun but I wouldnt go so far as to call it a pocket gun. When I think pocker guns, I picture LCP's, Kel tecs, Seecamps, NAA...Why not make that a .9mm?

varoadking · January 12, 2009, 06:29 PM

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I have to admit I'm shocked by the amount of interest in a .380 acp gun.

I'm shocked by the interest shown in most all of the off beat pieces...

Playboypenguin · January 12, 2009, 06:29 PM

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Its a small gun but I wouldnt go so far as to call it a pocket gun.

I would not call it a pocket gun either. I refer to these size guns as "dress carry" since they are the perfect size to conceal while wearing a suit or sportcoat.

LanceOregon · January 13, 2009, 07:59 AM

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Its a small gun but I wouldnt go so far as to call it a pocket gun. When I think pocker guns, I picture LCP's, Kel tecs, Seecamps, NAA...Why not make that a .9mm?

Some folks don't mind having a bulge inside their pants.

And you can always put your wallet on the outside of it to further disguise any imprint. The wallet will just stick out a lot further, and give the impression that you have a huge wad of bills on you.

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blume357 · January 13, 2009, 08:25 AM

two things turn me off... looks like they put a safety on it.. silly in a DA/SA semi-auto... and second and most important....

the design people got suckered into making the gun look like others... in that it looks like a shoe box...

I guess I'm a primadona... but one of the things that turned me on to the Sig 230/232 was the look and I still think it is a great looking gun... it's got curves and very few square edges.... just like a sweet handling woman should.

hhb · January 13, 2009, 09:21 AM

The Photo Shop thing made a lot of people skeptical, but it was the way the poster was able to get a photo on his blog. Any doubters can look on the Sig Sauer website for details. I read a trade journal announcing the Sig .380, that mentioned a $450 MSRP, but I've seen the MSRP will vary from about $545 upwards depending on options, grips, sights, finish, etc. I'm looking forward to it.

AK103K · January 13, 2009, 09:25 AM

Where do you see anything about it on their website? I havent been able to find anything.

A link would be nice.

January 9, 2009, 09:50 PM	#28
predecessor Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2006 Posts: 837	If the price is right, I will add both the Walther and the Sig to my .380 collection. Not sure I need the Khar though... __________________ ________________________________________________________________________ The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

January 9, 2009, 11:33 PM	#29
ezriderga Member Join Date: April 25, 2007 Location: NW Georgia Posts: 31	I do see some similarities between the Sig and the Mustang. Man do I love my Colt, my daily carry. __________________ Eternity...it's hell without Jesus

January 10, 2009, 01:09 AM	#30
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	I'll keep my 2 Mustangs Sig doesn't interest me Mustang hard to beat for a nice carry pistol. Wish more people had bought them Colt might still be makeing them if they had.. __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

January 10, 2009, 10:04 AM	#31
David the Gnome Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,092	I'd love to have a Colt Mustang but for what they go for nowadays I can't justify the purchase. The P238 is an opportunity to get a gun NIB very close to the Mustang at a reasonable price and with a full factory warranty. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

January 10, 2009, 01:08 PM	#32
Phantom Captain Member Join Date: March 27, 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 78	Well I for one am all over that Walther PK380. Just wow. I know my girlfriend will love the size and feel of it too. I'm a pretty big Walther fan owning a P99 AS (German) and a PPK/s and will definitely have to add this new little beauty to the family. By the looks, size and weight of it it might even edge out my PPK/s for daily carry. Can't wait til they come out now and I can handle one instead of just drooling over the pic. __________________ 49th Indiana Volunteer Infantry, Co. F

January 9, 2009, 10:23 AM	#26
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	"Why would this keep you from purchasing this gun?" Because thats what made me lean towards Sigs. without decockers they fall way below HK and Glock! "Putting a decocker on a SA gun is a bit silly IMO." Did not know this was SA.

January 9, 2009, 10:24 AM	#27
HKFan9 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Posts: 3,057	I just wish they would make a Sig p230 in 9mm, I LOVE that gun, but cant justify buying a .380 that is bigger than my PM-9 when .380 ammo is weaker and more expensive.

January 10, 2009, 03:40 PM	#33
2cooltoolz Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2007 Location: Lake Conroe, Texas Posts: 1,059	Well, I've been waithing for months for the Kahr P380. Found them now pre-selling in the mid $500 range. Now SIG gives me another reason to wait. I like Kahr...but I love SIG! __________________ What me worry Last edited by 2cooltoolz; January 10, 2009 at 03:48 PM.

January 12, 2009, 01:12 PM	#35
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	I have to admit I'm shocked by the amount of interest in a .380 acp gun. I thought most people put the minimum caliber at 9mm. There are many who don't even trust the 9mm as a man stopper. I'm curious how small the final product will be. If I can get a more powerful gun in a similar sized package, I would not go with a .380 acp. __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

January 12, 2009, 02:32 PM	#38
trespass Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 342	380 sig personally, I am impressed with the photo of the sig...yes, clear resemblance to mustang, only much sharper in looks... wonder if it has an ambi safety?...and 380 for defense? you betcha... a well loaded 380 is often superior to a standard 38 snubby and easier to pack. nothing against the 9's and are some fine ones out there... but personally, I am more likely at any given moment to be carrying the lighter 380...unless I know I may be in harm's way...then I carry BOTH!

January 12, 2009, 02:34 PM	#39
gilfo Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Posts: 307	I would like to look into it also, IF it was NOT a single action. Can't see ccw with a c/l 380. Just my opinion

January 12, 2009, 05:37 PM	#41
Sulaco2 Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,247	That picture of the Sig .380 if it is correct looks to me an awful lot like an AMT Backup .380, no? The single action was not my fav pocket carry at all.... Last edited by Sulaco2; January 12, 2009 at 05:47 PM.

January 12, 2009, 05:40 PM	#42
Playboypenguin Junior member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Great Pacific Northwest Posts: 11,515	When you compare it side by side with the Colt you can clearly see it is a very similar design. I wonder if I will almost blind myself by letting that spring loaded piece under the safety fly out and hit me in the face if I buy the Sig like I did with my Colt the first tie I stripped it.

January 12, 2009, 06:01 PM	#44
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	Its a small gun but I wouldnt go so far as to call it a pocket gun. When I think pocker guns, I picture LCP's, Kel tecs, Seecamps, NAA...Why not make that a .9mm?

January 13, 2009, 08:25 AM	#48
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	The lever under the slide would be the decocker... two things turn me off... looks like they put a safety on it.. silly in a DA/SA semi-auto... and second and most important.... the design people got suckered into making the gun look like others... in that it looks like a shoe box... I guess I'm a primadona... but one of the things that turned me on to the Sig 230/232 was the look and I still think it is a great looking gun... it's got curves and very few square edges.... just like a sweet handling woman should.

January 13, 2009, 09:21 AM	#49
hhb Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2007 Location: Foothills of the Ozarks Posts: 316	Sig P238 The Photo Shop thing made a lot of people skeptical, but it was the way the poster was able to get a photo on his blog. Any doubters can look on the Sig Sauer website for details. I read a trade journal announcing the Sig .380, that mentioned a $450 MSRP, but I've seen the MSRP will vary from about $545 upwards depending on options, grips, sights, finish, etc. I'm looking forward to it.

January 13, 2009, 09:25 AM	#50
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Where do you see anything about it on their website? I havent been able to find anything. A link would be nice.