Whats the most powerful non .50 round out there?

Vilkata · July 6, 2005, 01:25 PM

Is the .416 Rigby the most powerful round under fifty caliber out there? It seems like a rather enormous cartridge... And I've never heard of a bigger one.

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Third_Rail · July 6, 2005, 02:06 PM

You mean like .458 WinMag or .458 Lott?

I think there are some .475 wildcats, too.

Vilkata · July 6, 2005, 02:18 PM

Oooh... 458 Lott is gigantic...

It'd be fun to own one of these mega-guns.

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ATW525 · July 6, 2005, 02:20 PM

.470 Mbogo

mudfoot · July 6, 2005, 02:23 PM

460 Wby. Mag. (500 at 2650). Recoil is around 99 ft lbs on a 10.5 lb rifle.

gunmoney · July 6, 2005, 02:43 PM

What about .577 T-rex or a 4 bore. They are technically above a 50 cal as far as diameter. Not sure if that is what you meant?

Vilkata · July 6, 2005, 03:01 PM

Gunmoney, I was asking about calibers below .50, but you bring up an excellent point...

In CommieFornia, they banned .50 Cal rifles. I wonder how that law is worded...

Could a Californian own a .577 T-Rex??

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Jim Watson · July 6, 2005, 03:23 PM

I THINK the California ban is specifically directed at the .50 BMG, so your .500 Nitro Express is safe so far. There are already some .50 caliber rounds of the same ballistics as but not interchangeable with .50 BMG coming along to spit in the eyes of the California tyrants. The bill in New York is more general and will apparently ban everything, even a shotgun for which a rifled slug barrel is available.

ATW525 · July 6, 2005, 03:42 PM

Of course there's always the 700 Nitro Express

Vilkata · July 6, 2005, 03:56 PM

Wholly smoking cupcake!!!

Is that a commercially available round? I could take out Godzilla with that...

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Death from Afar · July 6, 2005, 06:06 PM

.700 nitor is the biggest caliber you can commerically buy. Its at the limit of recoil for most folks.

As the old story goes, the novice said to the old timer: "why do you use a .700 for cape buffalo" He replied: " Well sonny, they dont make a .800"

tINY · July 9, 2005, 04:58 AM

I always thought a 50 BMG case necked down to .458 would be a nice round tohave in Kali. Just think: With 500 grain solids, you could probably get 3000+ FPS and actually penetrate a fuel tanker car on a train... and it would be legal to own in CA.

Not that I advocate this kind of behavior, but I think the legislature in the Golden State are a little silly.

-tINY

Crosshair · July 9, 2005, 06:52 AM

Does anyone know where a person could get a Thompson Encore barrel in 338 Lapua Magnum. The 338 is just a necked down 416 Rigby case and you can get barrels in that caliber almost everywhere. Though they DO make spitzer bullet for the 416 Rigby

. Though I better have one h*ll of a muzzle break.

**Mike Irwin** · July 9, 2005, 01:59 PM

Ross Seyfried designed a round he called the .585 Nyatti.

10,000 foot pounds of energy out of a bolt-action rifle.

Jason280 · July 10, 2005, 03:28 PM

Commercially loaded, non custom gun is the .460 Weatherby.

CarbineCaleb · July 11, 2005, 10:08 AM

+2 on .460 Weatherby. From what I understand, it's not much fun to shoot.

**Mike Irwin** · July 11, 2005, 11:55 AM

I've fired a .460. No, it's not all that pleasant to shoot, but I've fired a lot of other guns that were even worse.

Jseime · July 11, 2005, 06:58 PM

just out of curiosity where does the .30-378 fit in here

Dave Haven · July 11, 2005, 08:55 PM

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just out of curiosity where does the .30-378 fit in here

Between 4400 and 4700 foot-pounds. Between a .338 Win Mag and a .458 Win Mag.
About equivalent to a .375 H&H in energy, but flatter shooting..

USP45usp · July 11, 2005, 09:10 PM

Man, I thought I was doing well with my 45-70 but dang!!!!

I figure that for the money, the highest caliber that I will need (if I go hunting elephants and such) is the 45-70. They are cheap and fun to fire.

I'd like to have the .50 just for grins though

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Wayne

Skeetin'870 · July 11, 2005, 09:29 PM

Wasnt there a 45-120 in the old west

July 6, 2005, 01:25 PM	#1
Vilkata Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2005 Posts: 123	Whats the most powerful non .50 round out there? Is the .416 Rigby the most powerful round under fifty caliber out there? It seems like a rather enormous cartridge... And I've never heard of a bigger one. ---

July 6, 2005, 02:23 PM	#5
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July 6, 2005, 06:06 PM	#11
Death from Afar Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2004 Location: Living the dream in Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND Posts: 1,635	.700 nitor is the biggest caliber you can commerically buy. Its at the limit of recoil for most folks. As the old story goes, the novice said to the old timer: "why do you use a .700 for cape buffalo" He replied: " Well sonny, they dont make a .800" __________________ "Beware of the Man with one gun...he probably isnt into guns enough to be safe with it".

July 11, 2005, 10:08 AM	#16
CarbineCaleb Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2004 Posts: 2,745	+2 on .460 Weatherby. From what I understand, it's not much fun to shoot. __________________ “Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.” Niels Bohr

July 11, 2005, 06:58 PM	#18
Jseime Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,775	just out of curiosity where does the .30-378 fit in here __________________ I love the smell of fresh shotgun in the morning.

July 6, 2005, 02:06 PM	#2
Third_Rail Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 2004 Posts: 134	You mean like .458 WinMag or .458 Lott? I think there are some .475 wildcats, too.

July 6, 2005, 02:18 PM	#3
Vilkata Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2005 Posts: 123	Oooh... 458 Lott is gigantic... It'd be fun to own one of these mega-guns. ---

July 6, 2005, 02:20 PM	#4
ATW525 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2005 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 2,723	.470 Mbogo

July 6, 2005, 02:43 PM	#6
gunmoney Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2005 Posts: 381	What about .577 T-rex or a 4 bore. They are technically above a 50 cal as far as diameter. Not sure if that is what you meant?

July 6, 2005, 03:01 PM	#7
Vilkata Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2005 Posts: 123	Gunmoney, I was asking about calibers below .50, but you bring up an excellent point... In CommieFornia, they banned .50 Cal rifles. I wonder how that law is worded... Could a Californian own a .577 T-Rex?? ---

July 6, 2005, 03:23 PM	#8
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,553	I THINK the California ban is specifically directed at the .50 BMG, so your .500 Nitro Express is safe so far. There are already some .50 caliber rounds of the same ballistics as but not interchangeable with .50 BMG coming along to spit in the eyes of the California tyrants. The bill in New York is more general and will apparently ban everything, even a shotgun for which a rifled slug barrel is available.

July 6, 2005, 03:42 PM	#9
ATW525 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2005 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 2,723	Of course there's always the 700 Nitro Express

July 6, 2005, 03:56 PM	#10
Vilkata Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2005 Posts: 123	Wholly smoking cupcake!!! Is that a commercially available round? I could take out Godzilla with that... ---

July 9, 2005, 04:58 AM	#12
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	I always thought a 50 BMG case necked down to .458 would be a nice round tohave in Kali. Just think: With 500 grain solids, you could probably get 3000+ FPS and actually penetrate a fuel tanker car on a train... and it would be legal to own in CA. Not that I advocate this kind of behavior, but I think the legislature in the Golden State are a little silly. -tINY

July 9, 2005, 06:52 AM	#13
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	Does anyone know where a person could get a Thompson Encore barrel in 338 Lapua Magnum. The 338 is just a necked down 416 Rigby case and you can get barrels in that caliber almost everywhere. Though they DO make spitzer bullet for the 416 Rigby . Though I better have one h*ll of a muzzle break.

July 9, 2005, 01:59 PM	#14
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,391	Ross Seyfried designed a round he called the .585 Nyatti. 10,000 foot pounds of energy out of a bolt-action rifle.

July 10, 2005, 03:28 PM	#15
Jason280 Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2002 Location: Athens,Georgia Posts: 355	Commercially loaded, non custom gun is the .460 Weatherby.

July 11, 2005, 11:55 AM	#17
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,391	I've fired a .460. No, it's not all that pleasant to shoot, but I've fired a lot of other guns that were even worse.

July 11, 2005, 09:10 PM	#20
USP45usp Junior member Join Date: May 17, 2000 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 3,427	Man, I thought I was doing well with my 45-70 but dang!!!! I figure that for the money, the highest caliber that I will need (if I go hunting elephants and such) is the 45-70. They are cheap and fun to fire. I'd like to have the .50 just for grins though . Wayne

July 11, 2005, 09:29 PM	#21
Skeetin'870 Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2005 Location: Tulsa,Ok. Posts: 288	Wasnt there a 45-120 in the old west __________________ Mental prep for skeet 1 Look for the Bird 2 Gun speed to target speed 3 Head on the gun 4 Follow Through