First Rate Absurdity....I'm gonna sue Mom and Dad

jimsbowies · April 11, 2002, 10:20 AM

In the unlikely event that anyone really cares if this frigging rapper got "capped".....take a look at this crap

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Heirs of the late rap star Notorious B.I.G. have filed a wrongful death and federal civil rights lawsuit against Los Angeles Police Chief Bernard Parks, two former chiefs and the city of Los Angeles, claiming they did not do enough to prevent the rapper's death five years ago in a drive-by shooting.

The suit, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, also names a former LAPD officer and a private citizen, linking them to the killing.

Notorious B.I.G., 24, whose real name was Christopher Wallace, was killed March 9, 1997, in Los Angeles as he was leaving a music industry party. No one has ever been arrested for the crime.

The suit alleges that, prior to the killing, the LAPD "knew or reasonably should have known" that an atmosphere of violence and "alleged criminality" surrounded a rival record label, Death Row Records, and that street gangs were associated with the company and its employees. The LAPD also should have known its officers were working with suspected or convicted criminals for Death Row and had dealings with a certain street gang.

"Certain persons intimately associated with Death Row Records and an affiliated street gang had consistently exhibited significant animosity toward Christopher G. L. Wallace and his record label," the suit says, "and blamed Christopher G. L. Wallace and his record label for the death of Tupac Shakur, a popular Death Row Recording Artist killed in September 1996."

Shakur was part of the East Coast-West Coast rap rivalry, which continued after his death and was believed to have played a part in Wallace's death six months later. The two men -- Shakur with the West Coast label and Wallace associated with New York-based Bad Boy Records -- had argued publicly.

The Wallace heirs include Wallace's mother, Voletta Wallace, his widow, singer Faith Evans, two of Wallace's children and the legal guardian of one of the Wallace children.

Named in the suit are former LAPD chiefs Willie Williams, who retired in May 1997, and his successor Bayan Lewis, who served until August 1997. Parks has served as chief since then.

"Defendant Parks intentionally, willfully and recklessly delayed and stopped the investigation," the suit says, "as soon as it became apparent officers employed by the Los Angeles Police Department were involved in the murder."

This delay, it says, was intended to protect the LAPD, the city, and the other defendants.

The suit also says former police officer David Mack acted with a man named Amir Muhammad in "conspiring to murder" Wallace.

One attorney representing the Wallace family charged the LAPD with "deliberate indifference to Wallace's death" and the ensuing investigation, and the suit calls the department's actions "reckless and conscience shocking."

LAPD spokesman Jason Lee said the department does not comment on ongoing litigation as a matter of policy

**TheBluesMan** · April 11, 2002, 10:36 AM

I would just like to add the following:

Yowza · April 11, 2002, 11:15 AM

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One attorney representing the Wallace family charged the LAPD with "deliberate indifference to Wallace's death"

I hope I don't sound too callous here, but the LAPD sure ain't the only ones to feel this way.

Rick

**Mike Irwin** · April 11, 2002, 11:47 AM

Thank you for saying it before I said it, Yowza.

2nd Amendment · April 11, 2002, 11:49 AM

Not to appear unsympathetic or anything, ya understand...

Aion · April 11, 2002, 11:54 AM

Maybe I can sue the parents because they should have known or had a reasonable expectation to know that their son would turn out to be a foul-mouthed talentless POS with a sh*tty attitude and should have done something about it so that the public would not have had to be subjected to his recordings.

- Aion

LonWilson · April 11, 2002, 12:13 PM

Unfortunately for them, the Wallaces will get hit with the Warren v. Metro DCPD case:

It is not the police's responsibility to protect individuals, only the society at large.

jimsbowies · April 11, 2002, 12:19 PM

Created when Johnson was Prez? The "entitlement" syndrome? The "me" society?

Or is it just the vertical family trees and the fact that Darwin was simply wrong.....certainly he couldn't mean that POS rappers would be the "fittest".....did he?

Tell me it ain't so Joe....

Kaylee · April 11, 2002, 12:23 PM

I just wanna know why the East Coast/West Coast rapper types thought their stuff was worth shooting each other over?

-K

LonWilson · April 11, 2002, 12:34 PM

That wasn't the reason. The entire EC/WC rivalry was because of a few reasons, the biggest of which was between Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls.

Once upon a time, Biggie and Tupac were friends. However, for one reason or another, they became enemies. Part of which was the fact that Tupac was screwing around with Biggie's wife. This was exemplified in one of BIG's songs about his wife having "Two Pacs".

Tupac Shakur still had friends with the group that Biggie was in, Bad Boy Records, until he was shot 5 times at Bad Boy's HQ by an unknown assailant.

Tupac got out of the hospital, and started a diatribe of conspiracy theories that Biggie hired the assailant to shoot them. There was no direct proof, but it was certainly possible that he did.

Tupac later released a song on a single that was very vocal in the hatred against Bad Boy and the rest of the East Coast rap machine, and of course included a major diatribe against Biggie himself, including a part about "You claim to be a playa, but I f*cked your wife!!"

It's pretty clear that both drive by shootings were by familiars with Bad Boy and Death Row. It is also entirely possible that Death Row head Marion "Suge" Knight ordered Biggie's death after losing his biggest star, but no evidence can tie him to the murder.

That is the jist of the entire deal.

jimsbowies · April 11, 2002, 12:44 PM

Will be used for defense of this patently frivolous lawsuit..but as my Grandpa always said about there being "silver linings"

At least the rapper ain't among the living anymore....

PKAY · April 11, 2002, 01:10 PM

Li'l rap in order:

I feel no solace fo' Christopher Wallace
or his family of slugs and slime ball mollusks

His life was violent
So was his art

Ya' wanna die like a pig
rappin's a start

(Apologies to those TFLers who "enjoy" it. Put a "C" in front of "rap," and that's what it means to me.)

Kirk Keller · April 11, 2002, 01:50 PM

Is when is Vanilla Ice gonna sue Todd Bridges for cleaning his clock on national television...

MuzzleBlast · April 11, 2002, 02:41 PM

I'm not indifferent at all. Hell, I'm HAPPY there is one less worthless sack of $h!t using my oxygen.

**Don Gwinn** · April 11, 2002, 03:05 PM

Yes, Virginia, gangsters get shot. Sometimes people who hang with gangsters get shot. Sorry about that.

Gorthaur · April 11, 2002, 03:40 PM

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The LAPD also should have known its officers were working with suspected or convicted criminals for Death Row and had dealings with a certain street gang.

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"Defendant Parks intentionally, willfully and recklessly delayed and stopped the investigation," the suit says, "as soon as it became apparent officers employed by the Los Angeles Police Department were involved in the murder."

Sounds like more than just indifference is being claimed.

Modifiedbrowning · April 12, 2002, 02:18 AM

Btw the head of Bad Boy records is Sean Combs aka Puff Daddy, P diddy, Diddy Pop, Daddy Puff Diddy, whatever the hell he goes by now. He has already weaseled his way out of one court case when his buddy took the fall for him.

SpyGuy · April 12, 2002, 03:17 AM

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Yes, Virginia, gangsters get shot. Sometimes people who hang with gangsters get shot. Sorry about that.

Exactly my point in the thread regarding the woman suing the Illinois gun store owner over the shooting death of her son.

The dead kid was hanging with gang members at a party and got involved in a fight. But it's not his fault that he got himself shot. Oh no...

Fred Hansen · April 12, 2002, 04:27 AM

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I'm not indifferent at all. Hell, I'm HAPPY there is one less worthless sack of $h!t using my oxygen.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Mike in VA · April 12, 2002, 10:54 AM

So, like, why can't we (us members of society) file a class action suit against his parents and other parasitic parties for raising a POS thug and inflicting him on us? Seems like it cuts both ways - they should have know that by his activites and associates that he was vulnerable to such 'sanctions' in herent to his life style. If they can't keep the terdball on a leash, why whould the cops be able to?

I can't puit enough barfies here to really show how i feel about this foolishness, so I'll just say it's =

x 6.23 x 10 to the 23rd power.

Aion · April 12, 2002, 10:57 AM

"Is that not what I just said?" (in a Cdr. Data voice)

- Aion

Kaylee · April 12, 2002, 11:09 AM

so Mike --

what's the Molar Weight of a

??

-K

Bog · April 12, 2002, 02:21 PM

Maybe it would be easier to have one criminal justice system for use exclusively by idiots.

You could have a little "opt out" form that says "Actually, I'll take care of my own dirty laundry thanks" that entitles you to a tax rebate.

Or maybe we could just watch all the oxygen theives let the air out of each other's tyres, as long as they're not endagering actual humans.

Mike in VA · April 12, 2002, 03:20 PM

Aion -
My apologies, I just sorta made one of those 'great leaps in logic' and figured that a pig pile (CAS) would be more fun than just you suing, all the same in spirit. I've often thought that certain 'theraputic' abortions really need to go back at least two generations in order to deal with people who had no business breeding in the first place.

Kaylee - I don't know, but it's some heavy $h*t regardless, really just using a BFN as an exponent to indicate my total disgust with such people. I have similar feelings for bilingualists who want native laguage accommodations, i.e. "you did know that this was an English-speaking country before you came here, right?", or with the bitchin' conservative Moslem emmigrant morons, i.e. "you knew this was a secular Western culture before you came here, right?", right on down to those who think we need a separate category for "hate crimes" and all the other whiners who I haven't had time to properly insult because they are too busy making excuses rather than taking responsibility for their lives.

I'll calm cown now, lest I really get rolling. Everybody have a nice weekend.

TexasVet · April 12, 2002, 11:58 PM

I figure that the LAPD just considered this a "misdemeanor homicide" (a term I learned from some Houston PD friends) and let it slide with a "attaboy" or two.

April 11, 2002, 10:20 AM	#1
jimsbowies Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Charlotte Posts: 332	First Rate Absurdity....I'm gonna sue Mom and Dad In the unlikely event that anyone really cares if this frigging rapper got "capped".....take a look at this crap LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Heirs of the late rap star Notorious B.I.G. have filed a wrongful death and federal civil rights lawsuit against Los Angeles Police Chief Bernard Parks, two former chiefs and the city of Los Angeles, claiming they did not do enough to prevent the rapper's death five years ago in a drive-by shooting. The suit, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, also names a former LAPD officer and a private citizen, linking them to the killing. Notorious B.I.G., 24, whose real name was Christopher Wallace, was killed March 9, 1997, in Los Angeles as he was leaving a music industry party. No one has ever been arrested for the crime. The suit alleges that, prior to the killing, the LAPD "knew or reasonably should have known" that an atmosphere of violence and "alleged criminality" surrounded a rival record label, Death Row Records, and that street gangs were associated with the company and its employees. The LAPD also should have known its officers were working with suspected or convicted criminals for Death Row and had dealings with a certain street gang. "Certain persons intimately associated with Death Row Records and an affiliated street gang had consistently exhibited significant animosity toward Christopher G. L. Wallace and his record label," the suit says, "and blamed Christopher G. L. Wallace and his record label for the death of Tupac Shakur, a popular Death Row Recording Artist killed in September 1996." Shakur was part of the East Coast-West Coast rap rivalry, which continued after his death and was believed to have played a part in Wallace's death six months later. The two men -- Shakur with the West Coast label and Wallace associated with New York-based Bad Boy Records -- had argued publicly. The Wallace heirs include Wallace's mother, Voletta Wallace, his widow, singer Faith Evans, two of Wallace's children and the legal guardian of one of the Wallace children. Named in the suit are former LAPD chiefs Willie Williams, who retired in May 1997, and his successor Bayan Lewis, who served until August 1997. Parks has served as chief since then. "Defendant Parks intentionally, willfully and recklessly delayed and stopped the investigation," the suit says, "as soon as it became apparent officers employed by the Los Angeles Police Department were involved in the murder." This delay, it says, was intended to protect the LAPD, the city, and the other defendants. The suit also says former police officer David Mack acted with a man named Amir Muhammad in "conspiring to murder" Wallace. One attorney representing the Wallace family charged the LAPD with "deliberate indifference to Wallace's death" and the ensuing investigation, and the suit calls the department's actions "reckless and conscience shocking." LAPD spokesman Jason Lee said the department does not comment on ongoing litigation as a matter of policy

April 11, 2002, 10:36 AM	#2
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April 11, 2002, 11:47 AM	#4
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April 11, 2002, 11:49 AM	#5
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April 11, 2002, 12:19 PM	#8
jimsbowies Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Charlotte Posts: 332	is this the legacy of the "great society" Created when Johnson was Prez? The "entitlement" syndrome? The "me" society? Or is it just the vertical family trees and the fact that Darwin was simply wrong.....certainly he couldn't mean that POS rappers would be the "fittest".....did he? Tell me it ain't so Joe....

April 11, 2002, 11:54 AM	#6
Aion Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 277	Maybe I can sue the parents because they should have known or had a reasonable expectation to know that their son would turn out to be a foul-mouthed talentless POS with a sh*tty attitude and should have done something about it so that the public would not have had to be subjected to his recordings. - Aion

April 11, 2002, 12:13 PM	#7
LonWilson Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2002 Location: Aloha, Oregon Posts: 759	Unfortunately for them, the Wallaces will get hit with the Warren v. Metro DCPD case: It is not the police's responsibility to protect individuals, only the society at large.

April 11, 2002, 12:23 PM	#9
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,671	I just wanna know why the East Coast/West Coast rapper types thought their stuff was worth shooting each other over? -K

April 11, 2002, 12:34 PM	#10
LonWilson Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2002 Location: Aloha, Oregon Posts: 759	That wasn't the reason. The entire EC/WC rivalry was because of a few reasons, the biggest of which was between Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. Once upon a time, Biggie and Tupac were friends. However, for one reason or another, they became enemies. Part of which was the fact that Tupac was screwing around with Biggie's wife. This was exemplified in one of BIG's songs about his wife having "Two Pacs". Tupac Shakur still had friends with the group that Biggie was in, Bad Boy Records, until he was shot 5 times at Bad Boy's HQ by an unknown assailant. Tupac got out of the hospital, and started a diatribe of conspiracy theories that Biggie hired the assailant to shoot them. There was no direct proof, but it was certainly possible that he did. Tupac later released a song on a single that was very vocal in the hatred against Bad Boy and the rest of the East Coast rap machine, and of course included a major diatribe against Biggie himself, including a part about "You claim to be a playa, but I f*cked your wife!!" It's pretty clear that both drive by shootings were by familiars with Bad Boy and Death Row. It is also entirely possible that Death Row head Marion "Suge" Knight ordered Biggie's death after losing his biggest star, but no evidence can tie him to the murder. That is the jist of the entire deal.

April 11, 2002, 12:44 PM	#11
jimsbowies Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Charlotte Posts: 332	I hate it that tax dollars Will be used for defense of this patently frivolous lawsuit..but as my Grandpa always said about there being "silver linings" At least the rapper ain't among the living anymore....

April 11, 2002, 01:10 PM	#12
PKAY Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 1999 Location: L.A., CA, USA Posts: 914	Li'l rap in order: I feel no solace fo' Christopher Wallace or his family of slugs and slime ball mollusks His life was violent So was his art Ya' wanna die like a pig rappin's a start (Apologies to those TFLers who "enjoy" it. Put a "C" in front of "rap," and that's what it means to me.) __________________ Safe shooting - PKAY

April 11, 2002, 01:50 PM	#13
Kirk Keller Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: NC Posts: 804	What I wanna know.... Is when is Vanilla Ice gonna sue Todd Bridges for cleaning his clock on national television... __________________ Proud TFL Alumnus "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." - T.R. North Carolina Police Combat Pistol League

April 11, 2002, 02:41 PM	#14
MuzzleBlast Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2001 Location: Arkansas. Much better place since Bill and Hillary went home. Posts: 945	I'm not indifferent at all. Hell, I'm HAPPY there is one less worthless sack of $h!t using my oxygen. __________________ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ArkansasShooters/ Molwn labe!

April 11, 2002, 03:05 PM	#15
Don Gwinn Staff Join Date: March 9, 2000 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 5,914	Yes, Virginia, gangsters get shot. Sometimes people who hang with gangsters get shot. Sorry about that. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Gwinn: Chicago Gun Rights Examiner

April 12, 2002, 02:18 AM	#17
Modifiedbrowning Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2002 Location: Montana Posts: 613	Btw the head of Bad Boy records is Sean Combs aka Puff Daddy, P diddy, Diddy Pop, Daddy Puff Diddy, whatever the hell he goes by now. He has already weaseled his way out of one court case when his buddy took the fall for him. __________________ "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are" Buckaroo Banzai

April 12, 2002, 10:54 AM	#20
Mike in VA Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 1998 Location: Santa FE, NM Posts: 2,165	So, like, why can't we (us members of society) file a class action suit against his parents and other parasitic parties for raising a POS thug and inflicting him on us? Seems like it cuts both ways - they should have know that by his activites and associates that he was vulnerable to such 'sanctions' in herent to his life style. If they can't keep the terdball on a leash, why whould the cops be able to? I can't puit enough barfies here to really show how i feel about this foolishness, so I'll just say it's = x 6.23 x 10 to the 23rd power. __________________ M2 The Second Amendment IS homeland defense!

April 12, 2002, 10:57 AM	#21
Aion Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 277	Mike "Is that not what I just said?" (in a Cdr. Data voice) - Aion

April 12, 2002, 11:09 AM	#22
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,671	so Mike -- what's the Molar Weight of a ?? -K

April 12, 2002, 02:21 PM	#23
Bog Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2002 Location: England. Where Great Britain used to be. Posts: 776	Maybe it would be easier to have one criminal justice system for use exclusively by idiots. You could have a little "opt out" form that says "Actually, I'll take care of my own dirty laundry thanks" that entitles you to a tax rebate. Or maybe we could just watch all the oxygen theives let the air out of each other's tyres, as long as they're not endagering actual humans. __________________ Venetian Blinds: Sunlight with Scanlines.

April 12, 2002, 03:20 PM	#24
Mike in VA Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 1998 Location: Santa FE, NM Posts: 2,165	Aion - My apologies, I just sorta made one of those 'great leaps in logic' and figured that a pig pile (CAS) would be more fun than just you suing, all the same in spirit. I've often thought that certain 'theraputic' abortions really need to go back at least two generations in order to deal with people who had no business breeding in the first place. Kaylee - I don't know, but it's some heavy $h*t regardless, really just using a BFN as an exponent to indicate my total disgust with such people. I have similar feelings for bilingualists who want native laguage accommodations, i.e. "you did know that this was an English-speaking country before you came here, right?", or with the bitchin' conservative Moslem emmigrant morons, i.e. "you knew this was a secular Western culture before you came here, right?", right on down to those who think we need a separate category for "hate crimes" and all the other whiners who I haven't had time to properly insult because they are too busy making excuses rather than taking responsibility for their lives. I'll calm cown now, lest I really get rolling. Everybody have a nice weekend. __________________ M2 The Second Amendment IS homeland defense!

April 12, 2002, 11:58 PM	#25
TexasVet Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2000 Location: DeepEastTexas Posts: 1,102	I figure that the LAPD just considered this a "misdemeanor homicide" (a term I learned from some Houston PD friends) and let it slide with a "attaboy" or two. __________________ Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 68-70 You are What you do When it counts.