Quote from Chairman Mao

Liberty Ship · June 30, 2002, 05:29 PM

After several months of "keeping an eye out for it," I finally found a quote from the Chairman which I have been looking for. Here it is:

"After the enemies with guns have been wiped out, there will still be
enemies without guns; they are bound to struggle desperately against
us, and we must never regard these enemies lightly. If we do not now
raise and understand the problem in this way, we shall commit the
gravest mistakes."

-- Mao Tse-tung, "Report to the Second Plenary Session of the
Seventh Central Committee of the Communist Party of China" (March 5,
1949), Selected Works, Vol. IV, p. 364.

moa · July 2, 2002, 03:53 PM

What Chairman Mao really meant is that anybody who opposed him was the enemy.

It is interesting how the Communist systems under Mao, Stalin, and others first destroyed their obvious enemies with the help of their friends and allies. Then it became Mao's and Stalin's friends, allies and fellow party members turn to perish, often for no real reason, or for trivial reason.

Revolutions, especially violent ones, have a tendency to eat their own children. And, maybe that is good.

Our Revolution was an exception.

Skorzeny · July 2, 2002, 04:38 PM

I believe it was Mao who said the following:

If you have 3 enemies, ally with 2 and eliminate the last. Then ally with 1 of the 2 and eliminate the second. Then eliminate the remaining 1 by yourself and claim power.

Or something to that effect.

Skorzeny

Oleg Volk · July 2, 2002, 04:57 PM

Our revolution wasn't as much of an exception as you think...

Hkmp5sd · July 2, 2002, 06:42 PM

"There are times when nothing but a beating can solve a problem."

Mao Zedong - 1956

Hkmp5sd · July 2, 2002, 06:44 PM

Quote:

If you have 3 enemies, ally with 2 and eliminate the last. Then ally with 1 of the 2 and eliminate the second. Then eliminate the remaining 1 by yourself and claim power.

Skorzeny,

Mao may have said it, but Stalin practiced it to perfection.

Beowulf_93 · July 2, 2002, 10:39 PM

Mao also said "Political power comes from the barrel of a gun". Mao was one hell of a guerilla fighter. If you get a chance, read "The Long March" by Harrison Salisbury. Salisbury is fawning, but it details Mao's long retreat into Yennan and how he evaded Chaing Kaishek.
Oleg: Yes, you are correct. There were many Tories and Loyalists who were stripped of property and either executed or exiled. Many fled to Canada or the Indies. No revolution is bloodless, which leads to another Mao quote:
"A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous . A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another. "
"Report on an Investigation of the Peasant Movement in Hunan"
3/1927, Selected Works, Vol. I, p. 28.

MeekAndMild · July 3, 2002, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Our Revolution was an exception.

The American Revolution wasn't a revolution per se. It was more of an eviction of foreign domination.

Skorzeny · July 5, 2002, 05:50 AM

Quote:

The American Revolution wasn't a revolution per se. It was more of an eviction of foreign domination.

Not true. The Founding Fathers were mostly British. It was both a rebellion against the legitimate monarch and a revolution in the sense of setting up a new system of government.

If Washington had become a new king, it'd been a rebellion that usurped the power of the existing monarch. The fact that the rebellion was also a revolution rests on the fact that the Founders established a new political order that empowered the peasants, so to speak.

Skorzeny

David Scott · July 5, 2002, 06:49 AM

Chairman Mao: another high-achieving graduate of the Lavrenti Beria School of Personnel Management.

Kaylee · July 5, 2002, 10:17 AM

A freind of mine is quite the world traveller. She's spoken with students from Tienammen (sp?) Square.. or simply "the Square" as they say.. if you can get them to talk about it at all. The ones that lived were banished to workcamps in the countryside.

I think that was the final lesson I needed to hear to know that sometimes the Ghandi approach doesn't work.

-K

fix · July 5, 2002, 10:39 AM

I'm not entirely convinced that the American Revolution is over. Sometimes it seems to be an ongoing process. Either that, or we're suffering from national schizophrenia.

Waitone · July 5, 2002, 10:40 AM

Quote:

If you have 3 enemies, ally with 2 and eliminate the last. Then ally with 1 of the 2 and eliminate the second. Then eliminate the remaining 1 by yourself and claim power.

Perhaps Mr. Lapierre should be careful who he siddles up to in the forthcoming fight over Campaign Finance Control constitutionality.

Jason Demond · July 5, 2002, 05:11 PM

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
For he today that sheds his blood with me,
shall be my brother.
William Shakespear's
Henry V

PATH · July 6, 2002, 11:43 PM

I thought it was Hillary and Co. that used that saying as their motto!

June 30, 2002, 05:29 PM	#1
Liberty Ship Member Join Date: March 15, 2001 Posts: 53	Quote from Chairman Mao After several months of "keeping an eye out for it," I finally found a quote from the Chairman which I have been looking for. Here it is: "After the enemies with guns have been wiped out, there will still be enemies without guns; they are bound to struggle desperately against us, and we must never regard these enemies lightly. If we do not now raise and understand the problem in this way, we shall commit the gravest mistakes." -- Mao Tse-tung, "Report to the Second Plenary Session of the Seventh Central Committee of the Communist Party of China" (March 5, 1949), Selected Works, Vol. IV, p. 364.

July 2, 2002, 04:38 PM	#3
Skorzeny Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 1999 Posts: 1,938	I believe it was Mao who said the following: If you have 3 enemies, ally with 2 and eliminate the last. Then ally with 1 of the 2 and eliminate the second. Then eliminate the remaining 1 by yourself and claim power. Or something to that effect. Skorzeny __________________ For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence. Sun Tzu

July 2, 2002, 04:57 PM	#4
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,031	Our revolution wasn't as much of an exception as you think... __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk Human Life is Worth Defending.

July 2, 2002, 06:42 PM	#5
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,214	Another good one..... "There are times when nothing but a beating can solve a problem." Mao Zedong - 1956 __________________ NRA Certified Instructor: Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Home Safety, Personal Protection, Range Safety Officer NRA Life Member

July 5, 2002, 06:49 AM	#10
David Scott Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2000 Posts: 2,458	Chairman Mao: another high-achieving graduate of the Lavrenti Beria School of Personnel Management. __________________ "As I looked at my two young sons, each with his gun, and considered how much the safety of the party depended on these little fellows, I felt grateful to you, dear husband, for having acquainted them in childhood with the use of firearms." -- Elisabeth Robinson, in The Swiss Family Robinson by Johann Wyss

July 2, 2002, 03:53 PM	#2
moa Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2000 Posts: 669	What Chairman Mao really meant is that anybody who opposed him was the enemy. It is interesting how the Communist systems under Mao, Stalin, and others first destroyed their obvious enemies with the help of their friends and allies. Then it became Mao's and Stalin's friends, allies and fellow party members turn to perish, often for no real reason, or for trivial reason. Revolutions, especially violent ones, have a tendency to eat their own children. And, maybe that is good. Our Revolution was an exception.

July 2, 2002, 10:39 PM	#7
Beowulf_93 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 221	Mao also said "Political power comes from the barrel of a gun". Mao was one hell of a guerilla fighter. If you get a chance, read "The Long March" by Harrison Salisbury. Salisbury is fawning, but it details Mao's long retreat into Yennan and how he evaded Chaing Kaishek. Oleg: Yes, you are correct. There were many Tories and Loyalists who were stripped of property and either executed or exiled. Many fled to Canada or the Indies. No revolution is bloodless, which leads to another Mao quote: "A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous . A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another. " "Report on an Investigation of the Peasant Movement in Hunan" 3/1927, Selected Works, Vol. I, p. 28.

July 5, 2002, 10:17 AM	#11
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,671	A freind of mine is quite the world traveller. She's spoken with students from Tienammen (sp?) Square.. or simply "the Square" as they say.. if you can get them to talk about it at all. The ones that lived were banished to workcamps in the countryside. I think that was the final lesson I needed to hear to know that sometimes the Ghandi approach doesn't work. -K

July 5, 2002, 10:39 AM	#12
fix Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2001 Posts: 922	I'm not entirely convinced that the American Revolution is over. Sometimes it seems to be an ongoing process. Either that, or we're suffering from national schizophrenia.

July 5, 2002, 05:11 PM	#14
Jason Demond Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 1999 Location: Hastings, Michigan Posts: 1,845	Here is a quote for us.. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. For he today that sheds his blood with me, shall be my brother. William Shakespear's Henry V __________________ "ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!" General Dwight D. Eisenhower June 6, 1944 ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!

July 6, 2002, 11:43 PM	#15
PATH Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 1999 Location: Rockland, NY Posts: 1,473	I thought it was Hillary and Co. that used that saying as their motto! __________________ For sure it is an evil spite, and breaking to the heart, For Irishmen to watch a fight and not be taking part. -Robert Service 'How MacPherson Held The Floor'