![]() |
|
|||||||
| Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
| Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
|
#1 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 25, 2004
Posts: 506
|
SCOTUS: Cities may seize homes at will... Kelo v. New London (merged)
__________________
"If it's rare, strange, or odd, i want it." I drank the cool-aid. Coal Creek Armory |
|
|
|
|
#2 | |
|
Senior Member
|
Quote:
__________________
If we look at the black record of mass murder, exploitation, and tyranny levied on society by governments over the ages, we need not be loath to abandon the Leviathan State and ... try freedom. --Murray Rothbard, For a New Liberty |
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Senior Member
|
I came in here to post this. Thanks for doing so already.
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: March 19, 2000
Posts: 2,913
|
. . . . . and there exists those in the second amendment community who are upset because SCOTUS has not taken a second amendment case.
I want SCOTUS no where near the second amendment, period. The water's temperature just went up a notch.
__________________
"Given a choice between good intentions and human nature, I'll go with human nature every time."--Me, 2002. |
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 19, 2004
Location: Fairbanksan in exile to Aleutian Hell
Posts: 2,096
|
Black robed arses voted in govt self-interest.
__________________
McCain/PALIN '08 Squished bugs on a windshield is proof the slow/heavy bullet theory works. |
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: February 1, 2005
Location: Intermountain West
Posts: 751
|
SCOTUS has once again demonstrated that the individual means nothing when weighed against society, regardless of what the Constitution says.
this ruling is clearly in violation of the 5th amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. ... let alone for a private corporation who will provide more tax revenue for the coffers that pay the salaries of the SCOTUS justices. individual liberty in America is dying, slowly being replaced by the love of the all mighty $$$. what individual rights truly remain that cannot be bought for the right price or taken by force of arms? private property no longer exists in the United States of America (as if it did before this ruling). your body belongs to the government, your children belong to the government, your house belongs to the government. how, again, is this not socialism thinly veiled? how, again, is this not slavery thinly veiled?
__________________
{thought cloud} |
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: August 20, 2002
Posts: 1,301
|
Yes sir, another nail in the coffin of freedom. More people, more laws, less
freedom, enjoy.
|
|
|
|
|
#8 |
|
Senior Member
|
*sigh*
Time for a ctrl-alt-del on our Government I fear.
__________________
If we look at the black record of mass murder, exploitation, and tyranny levied on society by governments over the ages, we need not be loath to abandon the Leviathan State and ... try freedom. --Murray Rothbard, For a New Liberty |
|
|
|
|
#9 | |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2000
Location: True West
Posts: 1,301
|
Quote:
A time for Serious Reflection...
__________________
"You come far, Pilgrim." "Feels like far." "Were it worth the trouble?" "Ah...what trouble?" ~Jeremiah Johnson |
|
|
|
|
|
#10 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: January 7, 2005
Location: Wolverine State
Posts: 768
|
Court order?
Did I just here what I think I heard?
The Supreme Court has voted that the rights of private ownership could be over powered by land developer types. I understand that if an Interstate has to go in they can force you out and this happens daily. What I am getting from this radio report is that if a super strip mall wants your land then they will be able to force you out too. If that is true and this comes into law I would bet a lot of folks like myself will die at my residence while defending my right to own it and live there. What right under anyone's understanding of the Constitution, Bill of Rights and many other documents that made our nation the democratic place, gives a very wealth guy the right to push out a hard working NOT wealth guy? This one takes the cake. Someone told me a few years back that this country will destroy itself from inside out. He also said to look at history and follow his thought process. I hate to give him an inch but there is a sad truth to what he told me. Each day as the rights seem to change and social insight forces more tolerence of this and that, it is evidence of what that man spoke. I hope and pray that he is wrong and our generation and the next 25 generations wake up..... |
|
|
|
|
#11 | |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: March 17, 2005
Location: Occupied California
Posts: 184
|
Quote:
__________________
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. Last edited by Spotted Owl; June 23, 2005 at 03:03 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#12 |
|
Staff
Join Date: March 24, 2005
Location: Steubenville, OH
Posts: 3,387
|
You heard right
. I'm following this on CNN as I type here. Frightening and disgusting; so much for our "supreme" court. If people don't raise hell with congress to pass legislation to override this, well, when Wally World snatches their home, they'll have no right to gripe.
__________________
TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does your post make you? I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt Charlie |
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: August 10, 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 351
|
I just saw this on drudgereport. I had been following the case cuz my Mom went to college in New London, back when. Shameful decision. Yes, it means if the mayor doesn't like you they can bulldoze your house and make a skatepark.
There is another thread on this topic below this one too.
__________________
Annie @8-) Maker of fine GSR since 1998 |
|
|
|
|
#14 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: March 19, 2000
Posts: 2,913
|
What else is endangered?
--church property --private schools --private hospitals --gun ranges --gun shops --race tracks In short, any property (real or otherwise) that someone well connected wants or dislikes is subject to confiscation. If you have access to the flow of funds and you are smart enough to get involved in local politics, you will be able to have the state confiscate anything you want. We just witnessed the institutionalization of political corruption.
__________________
"Given a choice between good intentions and human nature, I'll go with human nature every time."--Me, 2002. |
|
|
|
|
#15 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: August 10, 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 351
|
Your own house could be endangered if the mayor doesn't like you.
__________________
Annie @8-) Maker of fine GSR since 1998 |
|
|
|
|
#16 |
|
Senior Member
|
I see no further use for these black robed tyrants.
__________________
NRA Instructor / GOA / NRA Patron Wherever I go, everyone is a little bit safer because I am there. Wherever I am, anyone in need has a friend. Whenever I return home, everyone is happy I am there. |
|
|
|
|
#17 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 18, 2004
Location: JesusLand,TX
Posts: 371
|
The situation is becoming less and less awkward.
Is it time yet? |
|
|
|
|
#18 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: June 7, 1999
Posts: 3,284
|
Re this USSC ruling, the following question comes to mind.
IS ANYTHING, PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED AS PRIVATE PROPERTY, SAFE FROM THE BEADY EYES OF GOVERNMENT?? Answer: ME THINKS NOT. Comments, questions, alternative views?? |
|
|
|
|
#20 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: March 21, 2005
Location: WI
Posts: 2,181
|
Is this a result of the woman who's still living on National Park land (can't remember her name) after her husband passed away and left the house/land to her? Apparently the government and her husband entered into a contract (22yrs in length IIRC) when he was about 60yrs old. The contract said that in 22 years the government would take control of the land as it's smack dab in the middle of like Yosemite or something.
Anyone hear about this or am I insane as usual? The supreme court is truely scaring me especially as of late.....
|
|
|
|
|
#21 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: February 13, 2000
Location: MD
Posts: 567
|
TRip - That's a different case. This one is in Connecticut. Watch ranges start to be shut down in any areas that don't want them.
|
|
|
|
|
#22 | ||
|
Senior Member
|
Quote:
This can be done without the usual price negotiations when buying someone's property. Quote:
__________________
Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing |
||
|
|
|
|
#23 | |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: January 18, 2001
Location: Kettle Moraine country
Posts: 848
|
Quote:
And there are folks who just can't wait for the 2nd to reach SCOTUS... For all the excoriation of Scalia and Thomas on this forum, let's look at who the dissenters were in this case. Until there are more Scalias and Thomases on the Court, I don't want a 2nd Amendment case to even get near this tribunal of robed monkeys.
__________________
I knew Thomas Jefferson, he was a friend of mine...Governor Clinton, you're no Thomas Jefferson Ti faccio vedere come muore un italiano |
|
|
|
|
|
#24 |
|
Staff
Join Date: November 17, 2000
Posts: 6,396
|
Attention, Attention - you have just found out that the core rulers of the country care most about big business profit!!
Ain't that a surprise. You thought it was about social conservative values?
__________________
NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - www.rivercityshooters.com Being an Academic Shooter http://www.teddytactical.com/archive...05_Feature.htm Being an Active Shooter http://www.teddytactical.com/archive...11_Feature.htm |
|
|
|
|
#25 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: June 8, 2004
Location: MI Tech
Posts: 1,791
|
I can kinda see the whole taking land to make an interstate, or gov't building, kinda. Even those to me are iffy, but probably accpetable.
This however, is way out of line. |
|
|
| Thread Tools | |
|
|