Berrys vs Rainier Bullets $$$

Dead-Nuts-Zero · July 17, 2005, 09:47 PM

I have been looking at the Barrys and the Rainiers jacketed bullets and found them to be the better buy for this type of bullet. If anyone has used many of these, I would like to know how they compare. Or maybe you know of another brand that is in this class for about the same price or better.

I plan to load them with a Dillon 550 in .380, 9mm, and .40 cal. round nose for target shooting.

Would like to hear your comments, and what powders and loads you like for these bullets.

Thanks

rangerich · July 17, 2005, 11:20 PM

I purchased 9mm 115gr plated Rainier from Midway.
There was not much load data for these creatures.
I use Unique and AA#5 so finding loads for these were my goal.
From the rainier web site, if found the load data for aa#5 and found the same data at accurate web sites.
Unique worked ok, but #5 gave a 90% stovepipe in my Walther p99 and Beretta 92.
Contacting Rainier, they say plated are not the same as lead, and not fmj, something in-between.
To make a long story short, Accurate said the load data was faulty and would pull it from their web site. Use the load data for a FMJ bullet, I did and it works fine, no signs of overpressure.
Rainier still has the AA#5 115gr plated data that is no good, the do-not-exceed load gives about a 40% failure rate, the start load is 100%, no signs of over-pressure.
hope this helps

Kamicosmos · July 17, 2005, 11:56 PM

I've used rainers for a while in .40, .45, and even .44.

Have switched back to Winchester FMJ. Better consistancy and accuracy for only a few bucks more per 500.

A friend tried the Berry's, and was less than pleased. Even more inconsistant and inaccurate than the rainers.

MrApathy · July 18, 2005, 01:08 AM

in 9mm just go with remington or winchester or heck get some hornady. FMJ/JHP 9mm bullets with a good coat are cheap. now for 40sw I would recommend rainier they have been accurate for me. 180gr bullet data is easiest to come by and uses less powder. havent tried berry's or west coast plated bullets here neither is as thick.

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BigSlick · July 18, 2005, 07:07 PM

Montana Gold - about the same price, free shipping and jacketed.

I shoot the 230gr ball in 45ACP and 165gr flat point in 40 SW. Both are accurate, uniform and no leading at any speed.

Zero bullets have a good reputation too, but I haven't tried any (yet).

BigSlick

July 17, 2005, 09:47 PM	#1
Dead-Nuts-Zero Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2004 Posts: 485	Berrys vs Rainier Bullets $$$ I have been looking at the Barrys and the Rainiers jacketed bullets and found them to be the better buy for this type of bullet. If anyone has used many of these, I would like to know how they compare. Or maybe you know of another brand that is in this class for about the same price or better. I plan to load them with a Dillon 550 in .380, 9mm, and .40 cal. round nose for target shooting. Would like to hear your comments, and what powders and loads you like for these bullets. Thanks

July 17, 2005, 11:20 PM	#2
rangerich Junior Member Join Date: July 17, 2005 Posts: 5	rainier load data errors, 9mm 115gr prn I purchased 9mm 115gr plated Rainier from Midway. There was not much load data for these creatures. I use Unique and AA#5 so finding loads for these were my goal. From the rainier web site, if found the load data for aa#5 and found the same data at accurate web sites. Unique worked ok, but #5 gave a 90% stovepipe in my Walther p99 and Beretta 92. Contacting Rainier, they say plated are not the same as lead, and not fmj, something in-between. To make a long story short, Accurate said the load data was faulty and would pull it from their web site. Use the load data for a FMJ bullet, I did and it works fine, no signs of overpressure. Rainier still has the AA#5 115gr plated data that is no good, the do-not-exceed load gives about a 40% failure rate, the start load is 100%, no signs of over-pressure. hope this helps

July 17, 2005, 11:56 PM	#3
Kamicosmos Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2002 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 193	I've used rainers for a while in .40, .45, and even .44. Have switched back to Winchester FMJ. Better consistancy and accuracy for only a few bucks more per 500. A friend tried the Berry's, and was less than pleased. Even more inconsistant and inaccurate than the rainers. __________________ "Dreams only have meaning because we struggle in the waking world." -- Major Motoko Kusanagi GitS:SAC Member of NRA and Western Missouri Shooters Alliance

July 18, 2005, 01:08 AM	#4
MrApathy Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Posts: 470	in 9mm just go with remington or winchester or heck get some hornady. FMJ/JHP 9mm bullets with a good coat are cheap. now for 40sw I would recommend rainier they have been accurate for me. 180gr bullet data is easiest to come by and uses less powder. havent tried berry's or west coast plated bullets here neither is as thick. .

July 18, 2005, 07:07 PM	#5
BigSlick Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Texas of course Posts: 277	Montana Gold - about the same price, free shipping and jacketed. I shoot the 230gr ball in 45ACP and 165gr flat point in 40 SW. Both are accurate, uniform and no leading at any speed. Zero bullets have a good reputation too, but I haven't tried any (yet). BigSlick __________________ Nobody likes war, but if you find yourself in one - fight for those you serve with and to make the trip home. Show mercy to those that deserve it and a relentless, ruthless, cunning evil to those who don't.