1100 & 11-87: what are the differences between them?

[emm]

1100 & 11-87: what are the differences between them?

Any advantage to having one over the other?

[mtnboomer]

The 11-87 is a simplified version of the 1100. The simplifications were made to reduce the cost of manufacturing the gun. Most of the changes were in how the parts were made, not how the gun is made. Other changes involve the grade of wood and finish of the metal.

[grey_pilgrim]

I think most 1100's are chambered in 2 3/4" magnum, and 11-87's are chambered in 3 inch magnum. And i'd be interested in what got changed about the wood grade, cause they definately didn't scale it down. There are some beautiful new 11-87 premiere's that they make.

Just a reliability hint for 11-87's. Don't load the shells in backwards.

[charlie in md]

There is a somewhat different design to the gas system in the 1187. In the 1100, a 3" magnum barrel would only shoot 3" shells (and possibly heavy 2 3/4" shells) reliably, as there is only one gas port in the barrel. This was done so just enough gas was let through to work the action, but it is not enough when light 2 3/4 inch shells were used. The 2 3/4" barrels have two gas ports.

The 1187 design allows for any 2 3/4 or 3" shell to be used, but it is still recommended that the heavier target loads are used, as the light target loads may not work the action reliably. I have no problem with mine when using 1 oz reloads at 1200 fps.

Many of the other parts are interchangeable (bolt, trigger assembly, action bar).
vr Charlie

[ChrisH]

The 11-87 has a stamped metal adapter that goes over the end of the barrel gas ring to allow cycling of 2-3/4" loads. It acts like a cap to retain some of the escaping gas so the action can cycle the lighter loads. You should always remove this ring when firing hot 2-3/4" or 3" magnum loads. Otherwise, it will cycle the bolt way to fast. This can cause timing problems where the next round is dumped on the ground. It also slaps the heck out of the gun and shooter. So, the differences between the 1100 & 11-87 are primarily in the barrels. The Remington site specifically tells you not to interchange the barrels between these models, so I won't tell you that my 11-87 barrel works just fine on my 1100 Magnum.

[emm]

thanks all. I am trying to decide whether to get a Benilli M1 or Remington 11-87.

Money and recoil is the issue and it looks like the Remington is going to win out...

[WOD]

The 11-87 has a stamped metal adapter that goes over the end of the barrel gas ring to allow cycling of 2-3/4" loads. It acts like a cap to retain some of the escaping gas so the action can cycle the lighter loads. You should always remove this ring when firing hot 2-3/4" or 3" magnum loads. Otherwise, it will cycle the bolt way to fast. This can cause timing problems where the next round is dumped on the ground. It also slaps the heck out of the gun and shooter. So, the differences between the 1100 & 11-87 are primarily in the barrels. The Remington site specifically tells you not to interchange the barrels between these models, so I won't tell you that my 11-87 barrel works just fine on my 1100 Magnum.

I have a an 1100 Magnum that is my favorite waterfowl gun. Even though it says for 3" Mag Shells only it cycles all 2 3/4" waterfowl loads perfectly. I was wandering if your 11-87 barrelled 1100 Mag allows you to shoot the light target loads as it would be nice to shoot doubles on clays without having to load a magnum up front.