Do we worry too much about guns & rounds

aspen1964 · December 28, 2005, 11:15 PM

..and too little on marksmanship, ability to handle one's self in a dangerous situation, and the stomach to shoot someone if necessary...talking gun models and different loadings of various cartridges makes intersting talk and debate..but I think it is all frosting..the cake itself is whether we have the will, judgment, and skill to handle a precarious, sudden situation if confronted by a criminal intent against us....at the range..I see lots of people who I think might fall apart if a threat does show itself to them...others who probably would handle a threat well....I think there is far too much worrying about bullet weights, types, calibers, and gun models....chose your weapon well and become a good shot...if another who questions your choice but shows himself signifcantly inferior in his shooting ability is making a weak argument...

flycaster · December 29, 2005, 02:54 PM

This idea pops up from time to time, but it's important enough that it bears repeating. I've heard the quote, "Beware the man with one gun". That guy may well know everything that gun will- and will not- do. Probably is quite skilled with it, thus the quote. Guns, ammo, and accessories are lots of fun to talk and think about, aren't they? But, when push comes to shove (when the SHTF?), the other points you make are crucial to owning any firearm that could be used in a defensive situation. Hopefully, your post will lead to some interesting discussion.

Chuck

Jayb · December 29, 2005, 03:41 PM

Training for a dangerous situation is difficult to do. During any such training, the student knows he/she is not in any real danger. Adrenaline and the element of surprise are key players in a real incident, and it's challenging to generate the two in training.

On just about every forum, there seems to appear the caliber wars, revolver vs semi-auto, cheap vs high dollar..... etc. While each of us has his/her own opinion, it all boils down to putting a shot or shots on target in a tense situation. A well placed shot with a .22 is much more effective than a miss with a .45 . Opening myself up to being called paranoid, I maintain a pretty high level of situational awareness, in the hope of avoiding most "situations", or surprises.

Quantrill · December 30, 2005, 11:10 AM

Shot placement is the first priority.

dakotashooter2 · December 30, 2005, 12:32 PM

It often becomes a "glass 1/2 full" discussion. Some swear by the large caliber or high capacity argument, "just in case" (half empty argument). For others the "just in case" situation is not considered an option (glass half full). Both can instill confidence in thier own way, which is a major factor when the chips are down.

December 28, 2005, 11:15 PM	#1
aspen1964 Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2005 Posts: 1,030	Do we worry too much about guns & rounds ..and too little on marksmanship, ability to handle one's self in a dangerous situation, and the stomach to shoot someone if necessary...talking gun models and different loadings of various cartridges makes intersting talk and debate..but I think it is all frosting..the cake itself is whether we have the will, judgment, and skill to handle a precarious, sudden situation if confronted by a criminal intent against us....at the range..I see lots of people who I think might fall apart if a threat does show itself to them...others who probably would handle a threat well....I think there is far too much worrying about bullet weights, types, calibers, and gun models....chose your weapon well and become a good shot...if another who questions your choice but shows himself signifcantly inferior in his shooting ability is making a weak argument...

December 29, 2005, 03:41 PM	#3
Jayb Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 103	Training for a dangerous situation is difficult to do. During any such training, the student knows he/she is not in any real danger. Adrenaline and the element of surprise are key players in a real incident, and it's challenging to generate the two in training. On just about every forum, there seems to appear the caliber wars, revolver vs semi-auto, cheap vs high dollar..... etc. While each of us has his/her own opinion, it all boils down to putting a shot or shots on target in a tense situation. A well placed shot with a .22 is much more effective than a miss with a .45 . Opening myself up to being called paranoid, I maintain a pretty high level of situational awareness, in the hope of avoiding most "situations", or surprises. __________________ Freedom has a flavor the protected can never taste... USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '66, - May 68 Some of my rifles

December 29, 2005, 02:54 PM	#2
flycaster Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 2004 Posts: 251	This idea pops up from time to time, but it's important enough that it bears repeating. I've heard the quote, "Beware the man with one gun". That guy may well know everything that gun will- and will not- do. Probably is quite skilled with it, thus the quote. Guns, ammo, and accessories are lots of fun to talk and think about, aren't they? But, when push comes to shove (when the SHTF?), the other points you make are crucial to owning any firearm that could be used in a defensive situation. Hopefully, your post will lead to some interesting discussion. Chuck

December 30, 2005, 11:10 AM	#4
Quantrill Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 1999 Location: N.J.,USA Posts: 509	Shot placement is the first priority.

December 30, 2005, 12:32 PM	#5
dakotashooter2 Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2005 Posts: 474	It often becomes a "glass 1/2 full" discussion. Some swear by the large caliber or high capacity argument, "just in case" (half empty argument). For others the "just in case" situation is not considered an option (glass half full). Both can instill confidence in thier own way, which is a major factor when the chips are down.