Look at what I Bubba-ed

joab · January 10, 2006, 06:57 PM

not quite finished but it's started

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 07:01 PM

What else are you going to do to it?

If you plan on using a high-cap mag, use a Cobray 40rnder. They are Zytel instead of steel, so the feed lips are a little more fragile. But they are the ONLY high-cap detachable mag for the SKS that feeds reliably.

joab · January 10, 2006, 07:14 PM

I was actually thinking of going the other way, with a five rounder. But possibly replacing the current ten round mag with an American made ten round plastic to increase the compliance parts.

I'm trying to decide on a muzzle break, optics and Duracoat finish scheme

Brake will probably be from Rick's and the optics may be as simple as Williams firesights with the aperature rear sight.

Finish is leaning towards camo tiger stripe

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 07:21 PM

I had the williams peep rear on mine for a while, It was great, I highly recomend it. Have not used the firesight though. Try Delta Force, they make a crosshair front sight post that greatly complements the peep.

I have heard of poeple removing the front sight post altogether and using an M14 flash hider with modified front sight, but have never actually seen it done. Might be interesting though.

I was looking at those stocks myself, what is your opinion on them?

Trapp · January 10, 2006, 07:46 PM

I'd chop the bbl, recrown, thread for 14x1 left hand, and throw a cool AK brake on it!!

joab · January 10, 2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

I was looking at those stocks myself, what is your opinion on them?

Haven't shot with it yet, but I like the adjust capabilities. The butt doesn't lock as positivly as I had hoped and I may end up using a set screw to make a little sturdier lock up.
Depends on if I get the rubber pencil effect I got when shooting my friends folder

I like those sights, haven't seen them before

I originally though of cutting a threading the barrel for a better brake but I'm not sure it would be worth the money, but I haven't priced it yet either

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:03 PM

I notice that your using a yugo rather than a chinese, was this an intetional decision or are you working with what you had?

joab · January 10, 2006, 08:08 PM

I had a Yugo that I never could warm up to, just too ugly.
When I loaned it out for some farm pest control it came back with a marred finish and a blotchy stock from being left outside for three days and nights

I'm thinking about a 59 when my C&R license comes in

I like SKSs but I can't stand that launcher and I figured if I was going to modify it, why not have fun

SavageCheesecake · January 10, 2006, 08:13 PM

Joab, I believe that due to your modifications you currently are in possession of an illegal firearm (in fact, I know that as long as you have your telescoping stock on it you MUST remove the grenade launcher, at the least). You need to make several changes soon in order to stay within the law. Refer to http://www.simonov.net/uberlaw.htm as a guide.

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:14 PM

I'm not really fond of the grenade launching SKS eigther, One good thing about them though is the sight being so far back and the gas shut off makes it perfect for a silencer, If you had the paperwork to go that route.

I think Rhineland is going to be releasing an SKS version of there 10/22 stock pictured below.

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:16 PM

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Joab, I believe that due to your modifications you currently are in possession of an illegal firearm (in fact, I know that as long as you have your telescoping stock on it you MUST remove the grenade launcher, at the least). You need to make several changes soon in order to stay within the law. Refer to http://www.simonov.net/uberlaw.htm as a guide.

Now that you mention it, your right. Need to bring that parts count up.

joab · January 10, 2006, 08:16 PM

The changes are in the works

The stock is 3 compliance parts, I believe,
A mag would add another three
Muzzle brake should be one more, the piston one more
I need three more
Any suggestions

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:18 PM

the sights would make 2 more wouldn't they? I'll look it up.

SavageCheesecake · January 10, 2006, 08:28 PM

I once read somewhere that while not explicitly illegal its probably a good idea to grind off the stock night sights on a 59/66 if you bubba it.

For clean removal of most of these things (rather than hacksaw & hand grinder jobs), www.surplusrifle.com has some great guides.

Personally I dont bubba C&Rs, but as long as your determined to do it it is your rifle.

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:31 PM

tapco has u.s. made gas tube with covers, that would be 2.

Why not gring off the bayonet lug and mount a harris on your forearm?
That would get rid of one "Evil" part.

SavageCheesecake · January 10, 2006, 08:33 PM

http://www.simonov.net/10orlessrule.htm

SavageCheesecake · January 10, 2006, 08:35 PM

http://www.simonov.net/10orlessrule.htm

Refer to http://www.tickbitesupply.com/sks.html for new gas piston and op rod.

The scope mount there also looks appealing. Ive seen a non-gunsmith one that replaces the reciever cover with a new one, good for those looking for non-permanent customizations.

expeditionx · January 10, 2006, 08:35 PM

Joab,
The grenade launcher counts against you as a foreign part.

The sks normally has 7 to get rid of.
Your pretty much left to only a few available that are US made.
Stock replacement, handgaurd, gas piston, operating rod, and magazine make 7 and thats if you already have the grenade launcher off because it would still count against you.
There are no American made trigger groups available. DC engineering one are chinese one that are modified so they cant be used for compliance.

The complete list and no sites dont count.

1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:41 PM

If you get a reciever cover scope mount make DAMN SURE you get the leapers cover that has the screws to tighten down on the receiver. There are a lot of cheap scope mounts out there for this rifle, and the leapers one is the only one i've seen that is worth anything.

joab · January 10, 2006, 08:41 PM

No internals switched yet

Piston , op rod and magazine are going to be ordered friday, that gets me to 9 and the brake will make 10

Nicotine · January 10, 2006, 08:51 PM

just don't drive around with it untill then!

expeditionx · January 10, 2006, 08:55 PM

If you have only replaced the stock and handguard thats two parts replaced only. The key is to eliminate listed parts not necessarily to add American parts. With a muzzle device, you would still need 5 parts. The magazine is 3 parts, gas piston is one, and the operating rod is one.
This would only replace the 7 parts out besides the launcher.
The main problem is most after market magazines are trash.
They are unreliable. Jammamatics. The stock one works perfect.
Sucks that their isnt a Tapco trigger group available that is made in the good ole USA.

joab · January 10, 2006, 09:04 PM

Possible brakes
http://www.tapco.com/product_informa...S6627&back=yes
http://brakes.ricksmuzzlebrakesandgu....com/index.htm
http://www.rifletech.com/yugobrake39-a.htm

scope mounts
http://161.58.206.244/store/merchant...y_Code=skscope
http://www.riflestock.com/catalog_pa...0&NewProduct=0

joab · January 10, 2006, 09:05 PM

Anybody find fault with this list
http://www.tapco.com/page.asp?id=73

fatboy02 · January 10, 2006, 09:35 PM

Ok stupid question I am sure, but I do not own an SKS although I have an oportunity to get one (just because I don't have one already). I do not understand what you all are talking about ok ,ok I understand the point system and checked out the web site posted but why do you have to have it "made in the USA"?

If it is sold leagally here can't you shoot it here in the U.S. ?

January 10, 2006, 06:57 PM	#1
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	Look at what I Bubba-ed not quite finished but it's started __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 10, 2006, 07:14 PM	#3
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	I was actually thinking of going the other way, with a five rounder. But possibly replacing the current ten round mag with an American made ten round plastic to increase the compliance parts. I'm trying to decide on a muzzle break, optics and Duracoat finish scheme Brake will probably be from Rick's and the optics may be as simple as Williams firesights with the aperature rear sight. Finish is leaning towards camo tiger stripe __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 10, 2006, 07:46 PM	#5
Trapp Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: KTN Posts: 1,221	I'd chop the bbl, recrown, thread for 14x1 left hand, and throw a cool AK brake on it!! __________________ HDR Ban!? It's a shame all of my guns sank with my boat last week... Time to catch up.....like mayonnaise

January 10, 2006, 08:08 PM	#8
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	I had a Yugo that I never could warm up to, just too ugly. When I loaned it out for some farm pest control it came back with a marred finish and a blotchy stock from being left outside for three days and nights I'm thinking about a 59 when my C&R license comes in I like SKSs but I can't stand that launcher and I figured if I was going to modify it, why not have fun __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 10, 2006, 08:16 PM	#12
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	The changes are in the works The stock is 3 compliance parts, I believe, A mag would add another three Muzzle brake should be one more, the piston one more I need three more Any suggestions __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 10, 2006, 07:01 PM	#2
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	What else are you going to do to it? If you plan on using a high-cap mag, use a Cobray 40rnder. They are Zytel instead of steel, so the feed lips are a little more fragile. But they are the ONLY high-cap detachable mag for the SKS that feeds reliably.

January 10, 2006, 07:21 PM	#4
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	I had the williams peep rear on mine for a while, It was great, I highly recomend it. Have not used the firesight though. Try Delta Force, they make a crosshair front sight post that greatly complements the peep. I have heard of poeple removing the front sight post altogether and using an M14 flash hider with modified front sight, but have never actually seen it done. Might be interesting though. I was looking at those stocks myself, what is your opinion on them?

January 10, 2006, 08:03 PM	#7
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	I notice that your using a yugo rather than a chinese, was this an intetional decision or are you working with what you had?

January 10, 2006, 08:13 PM	#9
SavageCheesecake Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 264	Joab, I believe that due to your modifications you currently are in possession of an illegal firearm (in fact, I know that as long as you have your telescoping stock on it you MUST remove the grenade launcher, at the least). You need to make several changes soon in order to stay within the law. Refer to http://www.simonov.net/uberlaw.htm as a guide.

January 10, 2006, 08:14 PM	#10
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	I'm not really fond of the grenade launching SKS eigther, One good thing about them though is the sight being so far back and the gas shut off makes it perfect for a silencer, If you had the paperwork to go that route. I think Rhineland is going to be releasing an SKS version of there 10/22 stock pictured below.

January 10, 2006, 08:18 PM	#13
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	the sights would make 2 more wouldn't they? I'll look it up.

January 10, 2006, 08:28 PM	#14
SavageCheesecake Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 264	I once read somewhere that while not explicitly illegal its probably a good idea to grind off the stock night sights on a 59/66 if you bubba it. For clean removal of most of these things (rather than hacksaw & hand grinder jobs), www.surplusrifle.com has some great guides. Personally I dont bubba C&Rs, but as long as your determined to do it it is your rifle.

January 10, 2006, 08:31 PM	#15
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	tapco has u.s. made gas tube with covers, that would be 2. Why not gring off the bayonet lug and mount a harris on your forearm? That would get rid of one "Evil" part.

January 10, 2006, 08:33 PM	#16
SavageCheesecake Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 264	http://www.simonov.net/10orlessrule.htm

January 10, 2006, 08:35 PM	#17
SavageCheesecake Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 264	http://www.simonov.net/10orlessrule.htm Refer to http://www.tickbitesupply.com/sks.html for new gas piston and op rod. The scope mount there also looks appealing. Ive seen a non-gunsmith one that replaces the reciever cover with a new one, good for those looking for non-permanent customizations.

January 10, 2006, 08:35 PM	#18
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	Joab, The grenade launcher counts against you as a foreign part. The sks normally has 7 to get rid of. Your pretty much left to only a few available that are US made. Stock replacement, handgaurd, gas piston, operating rod, and magazine make 7 and thats if you already have the grenade launcher off because it would still count against you. There are no American made trigger groups available. DC engineering one are chinese one that are modified so they cant be used for compliance. The complete list and no sites dont count. 1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (2) Barrels (3) Barrel extensions (4) Mounting blocks (trunions) (5) Muzzle attachments (6) Bolts (7) Bolt carriers (8) Operating rods (9) Gas pistons (10) Trigger housings (11) Triggers (12) Hammers (13) Sears (14) Disconnectors (15) Buttstocks (16) Pistol grips (17) Forearms, handguards (18) Magazine bodies (19) Followers (20) Floorplates

January 10, 2006, 08:41 PM	#19
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	If you get a reciever cover scope mount make DAMN SURE you get the leapers cover that has the screws to tighten down on the receiver. There are a lot of cheap scope mounts out there for this rifle, and the leapers one is the only one i've seen that is worth anything.

January 10, 2006, 08:51 PM	#21
Nicotine Junior member Join Date: June 20, 2005 Location: Tulsa, OKlahoma Posts: 397	just don't drive around with it untill then!

January 10, 2006, 08:55 PM	#22
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	If you have only replaced the stock and handguard thats two parts replaced only. The key is to eliminate listed parts not necessarily to add American parts. With a muzzle device, you would still need 5 parts. The magazine is 3 parts, gas piston is one, and the operating rod is one. This would only replace the 7 parts out besides the launcher. The main problem is most after market magazines are trash. They are unreliable. Jammamatics. The stock one works perfect. Sucks that their isnt a Tapco trigger group available that is made in the good ole USA.

January 10, 2006, 09:04 PM	#23
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	Possible brakes http://www.tapco.com/product_informa...S6627&back=yes http://brakes.ricksmuzzlebrakesandgu....com/index.htm http://www.rifletech.com/yugobrake39-a.htm scope mounts http://161.58.206.244/store/merchant...y_Code=skscope http://www.riflestock.com/catalog_pa...0&NewProduct=0 __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 10, 2006, 09:05 PM	#24
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	Anybody find fault with this list http://www.tapco.com/page.asp?id=73 __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 10, 2006, 09:35 PM	#25
fatboy02 Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Location: Olivet, MI Posts: 163	confused??? Ok stupid question I am sure, but I do not own an SKS although I have an oportunity to get one (just because I don't have one already). I do not understand what you all are talking about ok ,ok I understand the point system and checked out the web site posted but why do you have to have it "made in the USA"? If it is sold leagally here can't you shoot it here in the U.S. ?