For those that like to list their collection

OBIWAN · May 12, 2006, 03:02 PM

You know...the laundry list in the signature line, etc

Website posting leads to robbery of Newcastle gun owner
May 06, 2006 - 8:32 am
By: Jason Satur

Durham Police say thieves likely used a website posting to trace a gun owner, break into his Newcastle home, rip his safe off the wall and steal rifles, shotguns, pistols and bullets.

Durham Police Detective Constable Geoff Ingram urged gun owners to be cautious in posting information that could be used to identify themselves. In this case, Ingram said the victim had some guns for sale on a website and posted his home phone number.

The thieves broke in sometime Thursday afternoon and ransacked the home.

The cache of weapons including two rifles, three shotguns, three pistols, two samurai swords and a .50-calibre muzzle loader were all legally owned and stored with trigger locks.

The crooks simply yanked the safe from the wall it was bolted to and escaped, according to Ingram.

http://www.680news.com/news/local/ar...06_083246_2920

TooTall · May 21, 2006, 08:56 AM

Don't overlook the possibility of having a break-in if you have a bumper sticker that reads something like "I'm a gun owner and proud of it". I haven't heard of any NRA bumper stickers being blamed for break-in's, but they HAVE caused some vehicles to be "church-keyed" by vandals!

Also, while you're somewhat "anonymous" on the internet, you are NOT anonymous when your firearms are registered! Just WHO has access to those "official" gun records?

Several years ago, a very diligent police detective noticed a very definite pattern in several residential break-in's. The pattern was that the victims were all gun owners and owned several firearms....and that the firearms appeared to be the focal point of the break-in's, since other items of value were not taken.

I won't go into detail, but the investigation of that detective began to narrow down to the possibility (actually the probability) that an employee of the California Department of Justice was involved, since they are responsible for collecting gun registration information. That "theory" turned out to be CORRECT, for a young female employee of the Calif DOJ had been doing "computer runs" of gun owners, printing them out, then handing them to her gang-member boyfriend! When the police raided the boyfriend's residence, they recovered several of the stolen firearms AND gained info regarding additional suspects involved, which culminated in the arrest of 8 people!

If you aren't required to register your firearms, DON'T! Just make sure that you document all pertinent info regarding your firearms, in case of theft.

And DON'T brag about your "arsenal", unless it's to your close friends and family members that you TRUST! No one NEEDS to know what firearms you own unless you go "ballistic"!

FirstFreedom · May 21, 2006, 11:40 AM

Good point, but...

1. Use anonymity and not your real name and you shouldn't have a problem.

2.

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The crooks simply yanked the safe from the wall it was bolted to and escaped, according to Ingram.

Errrm, that's not a 'real' safe in my book, if they're able to do that without a lot of time, tools, dollys/hoists, etc.

Evil Monkey · May 21, 2006, 11:40 AM

Hell, I wouldn't even let family know that I own a firearm! Keep that stuff to yourself; no need to brag.

From Pops on Waynes Bros.:
"Shhhh! Don't tell NOBODY!"

PinnedAndRecessed · May 21, 2006, 01:37 PM

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If you aren't required to register your firearms, DON'T!

Duh.

mogunner · May 21, 2006, 02:19 PM

I don't tell anyone except Family what type and how many firearms that I own. If asked by others, I tell them I own a couple. I don't give out information on type or quantity.

Dave Haven · May 21, 2006, 11:19 PM

I have a standard reply for people who ask me how many guns I have. It doesn't matter if it's someone I just met or a friend of many years.
"Nunnayerdambizness!"

Some friends are shocked by this reply; others say, "Good answer!"

1BadF350 · May 22, 2006, 05:43 AM

Deleted mine. Thanks OBIWAN.

Ramcharger · May 22, 2006, 12:00 PM

I'm glad All mine fell off my boat years ago, Really

Just have a rusty old Crossman with a pellet stuck in the barrel.

Teach · May 22, 2006, 03:42 PM

One of my students (7th grader) was popping off in class about how many guns a relative of his owns. I took him aside and explained how this was a bad idea, and what things could result from it. His eyes got big and I think he got the message.....

Optical Serenity · May 22, 2006, 03:51 PM

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One of my students (7th grader) was popping off in class about how many guns a relative of his owns. I took him aside and explained how this was a bad idea, and what things could result from it. His eyes got big and I think he got the message.....

+1 Just goes to show that a lot of people, regardless of age just don't bother even thinking about what they want to say before they say it.

**Tamara** · May 23, 2006, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Haven

I have a standard reply for people who ask me how many guns I have.

It was a happy day for me when I could start answering that question truthfully with "You know what? I don't know."

mete · May 23, 2006, 08:01 AM

It's a very old practice for some criminals to look at society columns in the paper 'Mr&Mrs jones are leaving for a three week tour of France' .Thanks for the info !! Tell people about vacations AFTER you've come back. ..Keeping my mouth shut was taught to me by my father when I was a little kid.

TooTall · May 23, 2006, 08:54 AM

First of all, I want to thank OBIWAN for his post. Second, I applaud those of you who responded FAVORABLY!

There was a similar post in another forum board, and I responded with the TRUE story about the dishonest California DOJ employee. Guess what? There were mixed reactions in the responses, ranging from "good info" to "I'm PROUD of my vast collection of firearms and will CONTINUE to list them! It's my RIGHT!" Yeah, right!

Dave Haven · May 23, 2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted byTamara
It was a happy day for me when I could start answering that question truthfully with "You know what? I don't know."

I've also used that answer!

I've also said, "None. I only own small arms."

May 12, 2006, 03:02 PM	#1
OBIWAN Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,342	For those that like to list their collection You know...the laundry list in the signature line, etc Website posting leads to robbery of Newcastle gun owner May 06, 2006 - 8:32 am By: Jason Satur Durham Police say thieves likely used a website posting to trace a gun owner, break into his Newcastle home, rip his safe off the wall and steal rifles, shotguns, pistols and bullets. Durham Police Detective Constable Geoff Ingram urged gun owners to be cautious in posting information that could be used to identify themselves. In this case, Ingram said the victim had some guns for sale on a website and posted his home phone number. The thieves broke in sometime Thursday afternoon and ransacked the home. The cache of weapons including two rifles, three shotguns, three pistols, two samurai swords and a .50-calibre muzzle loader were all legally owned and stored with trigger locks. The crooks simply yanked the safe from the wall it was bolted to and escaped, according to Ingram. http://www.680news.com/news/local/ar...06_083246_2920

May 21, 2006, 11:40 AM	#4
Evil Monkey Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Posts: 218	Hell, I wouldn't even let family know that I own a firearm! Keep that stuff to yourself; no need to brag. From Pops on Waynes Bros.: "Shhhh! Don't tell NOBODY!" __________________ A British Royal Marine was shot in the abdomen with 7.62mm NATO during the liberation of the Falklands, he carried on fighting shooting the Argentine dead with his M16.

May 21, 2006, 02:19 PM	#6
mogunner Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 75	For those that like to list their collection I don't tell anyone except Family what type and how many firearms that I own. If asked by others, I tell them I own a couple. I don't give out information on type or quantity.

May 22, 2006, 12:00 PM	#9
Ramcharger Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Posts: 371	I'm glad All mine fell off my boat years ago, Really Just have a rusty old Crossman with a pellet stuck in the barrel. __________________ "if i had to go to a planet, an unknown planet...i want an AK-47. When Western Civilization melts down... I want an AK-47"

May 21, 2006, 08:56 AM	#2
TooTall Member Join Date: January 22, 2006 Posts: 62	Don't overlook the possibility of having a break-in if you have a bumper sticker that reads something like "I'm a gun owner and proud of it". I haven't heard of any NRA bumper stickers being blamed for break-in's, but they HAVE caused some vehicles to be "church-keyed" by vandals! Also, while you're somewhat "anonymous" on the internet, you are NOT anonymous when your firearms are registered! Just WHO has access to those "official" gun records? Several years ago, a very diligent police detective noticed a very definite pattern in several residential break-in's. The pattern was that the victims were all gun owners and owned several firearms....and that the firearms appeared to be the focal point of the break-in's, since other items of value were not taken. I won't go into detail, but the investigation of that detective began to narrow down to the possibility (actually the probability) that an employee of the California Department of Justice was involved, since they are responsible for collecting gun registration information. That "theory" turned out to be CORRECT, for a young female employee of the Calif DOJ had been doing "computer runs" of gun owners, printing them out, then handing them to her gang-member boyfriend! When the police raided the boyfriend's residence, they recovered several of the stolen firearms AND gained info regarding additional suspects involved, which culminated in the arrest of 8 people! If you aren't required to register your firearms, DON'T! Just make sure that you document all pertinent info regarding your firearms, in case of theft. And DON'T brag about your "arsenal", unless it's to your close friends and family members that you TRUST! No one NEEDS to know what firearms you own unless you go "ballistic"!

May 21, 2006, 11:19 PM	#7
Dave Haven Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2000 Location: near Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 790	I have a standard reply for people who ask me how many guns I have. It doesn't matter if it's someone I just met or a friend of many years. "Nunnayerdambizness!" Some friends are shocked by this reply; others say, "Good answer!"

May 22, 2006, 05:43 AM	#8
1BadF350 Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 857	Deleted mine. Thanks OBIWAN.

May 22, 2006, 03:42 PM	#10
Teach Member Join Date: January 31, 2006 Location: Southeast Oklahoma Posts: 23	One of my students (7th grader) was popping off in class about how many guns a relative of his owns. I took him aside and explained how this was a bad idea, and what things could result from it. His eyes got big and I think he got the message.....

May 23, 2006, 08:01 AM	#13
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 2,597	It's a very old practice for some criminals to look at society columns in the paper 'Mr&Mrs jones are leaving for a three week tour of France' .Thanks for the info !! Tell people about vacations AFTER you've come back. ..Keeping my mouth shut was taught to me by my father when I was a little kid.

May 23, 2006, 08:54 AM	#14
TooTall Member Join Date: January 22, 2006 Posts: 62	First of all, I want to thank OBIWAN for his post. Second, I applaud those of you who responded FAVORABLY! There was a similar post in another forum board, and I responded with the TRUE story about the dishonest California DOJ employee. Guess what? There were mixed reactions in the responses, ranging from "good info" to "I'm PROUD of my vast collection of firearms and will CONTINUE to list them! It's my RIGHT!" Yeah, right!