A grand jury has declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney

2nd Amendment · June 16, 2006, 04:43 PM

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WASHINGTON (AP) A grand jury has declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney in a March incident in which she admitted hitting a police officer who tried to stop her from entering a House office building.

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Surprise, surprise, surprise...

Hopefully Yahoo has jumped the gun but I suspect not.

2nd Amendment · June 16, 2006, 04:51 PM

Meh. So much for jumping the gun...

Rep. McKinney won't be charged in scuffle
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
11 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A grand jury declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney on Friday in connection with a confrontation in which she admitted hitting a police officer who tried to stop her from entering a House office building.

The grand jury had been considering the case since shortly after the March 29 incident, which has led to much discussion on Capitol Hill about race and the conduct of lawmakers and the officers who protect them.

"We respect the decision of the grand jury in this difficult matter," said U.S. Attorney Kenneth Wainstein.

His statement, released late Friday, also included support for the officer involved, Paul McKenna, and the Capitol Police. He said, "This is a tremendously difficult job, and it is one that Officer McKenna and his colleagues perform with the utmost professionalism and dignity."

With that, Wainstein closed a case that has simmered with racial and political tension.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060616/...nney_scuffle_3

rhgunguy · June 16, 2006, 05:11 PM

Some animals are more equal than others. What a sad day for America.

contender6030 · June 16, 2006, 05:22 PM

Frickin amazing!!! Can't wait to hear what Ann Coulter will have to say about this one!!!

Eghad · June 16, 2006, 06:25 PM

Yadda liberals yadda yadda liberals yadda liberals yadda yadda godless liberals, yadda yadda liberals is what Ann will have to say lol after all she is busy promoting that book

2nd Amendment · June 16, 2006, 07:25 PM

I'm sure Cynthia will be saying yada yada yada conservatives yada yada yada, so it all balances out.

hksigwalther · June 16, 2006, 07:31 PM

Come on. You guys didn't really think anything would happen, did you?

Blammer · June 16, 2006, 07:45 PM

No, I didn't think she'd be indited, it being Washington & all that signifies

2nd Amendment · June 16, 2006, 07:52 PM

Ya know, yeah, I had hoped for the right thing to happen. For once.

**TheBluesMan** · June 16, 2006, 08:52 PM

Two and a half months later, they decline to indict. Think there was some "backroom dealing" going on?

I expect the police union to go ballistic over this. And rightly so.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic...1mckinney1.gif

Garand Guy · June 16, 2006, 09:15 PM

Well, atleast no one is suprised.

She has three things going for her:
1. Democrat = Can get away with anything up to and including murder.

2. She's a woman = She can get away with anything up to and including murder.

3. She's a "minority" = She can get away with anything up to and including murder.

Put the three together and justice didn't stand a chance.

Well there it is; fire away.

contender6030 · June 16, 2006, 09:50 PM

You said a'mouthfull Garand Guy!!!

pipoman · June 17, 2006, 12:08 AM

Keep the jury pool in mind. This is the same people who elected and re-elected Marion Barry.

Real Gun · June 17, 2006, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Keep the jury pool in mind. This is the same people who elected and re-elected Marion Barry.

I don't think the outcome can be evaluated without knowing the racial makeup of the grand jury. It has not been established under what circumstances McKinney's conduct should be considered "okay".

SOSARMS · June 17, 2006, 06:21 AM

Just keep in mind....if there was NO glove to fit...they would have had to acquit....

GoSlash27 · June 17, 2006, 07:21 AM

Meh. McKinney, Rove....what's the difference?

renegadecreation · June 17, 2006, 07:32 AM

This is a truly sad representation of what power and money can get you! If that would have been a common person they would have buried them in a federal penitentiary!

Sickening!

Real Gun · June 17, 2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Meh. McKinney, Rove....what's the difference?

Evidence.

GoSlash27 · June 17, 2006, 07:48 AM

"Evidence"? You suggesting that there's no evidence against Rove in the Plame case/ coverup? Puh-leeze!

At least McKinney was absolved by the grand jury itself. Not the same thing as the prosecutor declining to pursue.

Real Gun · June 17, 2006, 08:45 AM

How about not hijacking the thread trying to find offsetting sins among the GOP and white people?

rick_reno · June 17, 2006, 09:04 AM

Why should she be charged? She's a member of Congress. I hope you're not naive enough to believe for one minute that they're like us.

GoSlash27 · June 17, 2006, 10:38 AM

"White people"?!? What does this have to do with white people? It's not a commentary on 'offsetting sins'. Rep. McKinney is a lout, no 2 ways about it.
This is a commentary on the relative reception between this thread and the Rove thread. Only a truly partisan person would have a different opinion about these two cases.

**Antipitas** · June 17, 2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Only a truly partisan person would have a different opinion about these two cases.

Only a true partisan person would have the same opinion on these two very different cases. Back at ya, GoSlash.

There is nothing similar in the cases. Intentional or not, it is a thread hijack. Let's keep this thread to the case at hand.

Richard Hanson · June 17, 2006, 10:51 AM

Considering that her actions where not sufficient to cause the officer to arrest her at the time of the event, I think that little or no harm was done. It is my view that the decision of the grand jury was appropriate.

Respectfully,
Richard

GoSlash27 · June 17, 2006, 11:21 AM

Antipitas,
No, a partisan lefty would say that McKinney was a victim of Republican politics and while Rove got off due to his political clout.
A righty would say the opposite.
I'm saying that justice was not served in either case. Now how is that partisan? Or is it your view that anything not 100% pro-Republican is therefore 100% pro-Democrat?

Nevermind. I will abide by your wishes and end this line of thought within this thread, but I will address it in a new thread.

Going on strictly the merits (or lack thereof) of the McKinney case, let's review:
She appeared before the Grand Jury, a body of average citizens.
They heard all the evidence and testimony.
They declined to indict.
What's the big problem here? How did her 'political influence' affect the deliberations of a Grand Jury? Methinks all this wailing and gnashing of teeth has more to do with her politics than her actions.

June 16, 2006, 04:43 PM	#1
2nd Amendment Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2000 Location: B.F.E. Posts: 1,720	A grand jury has declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney Yahoo! Alerts Breaking News Friday, June 16, 2006, 2:16 PM PDT WASHINGTON (AP) A grand jury has declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney in a March incident in which she admitted hitting a police officer who tried to stop her from entering a House office building. Breaking News Alerts may be sent before a story is available on Yahoo! News. A story should be published shortly. Search for related news on Yahoo! News Search. Surprise, surprise, surprise... Hopefully Yahoo has jumped the gun but I suspect not. __________________ Scott Conklin We now live in a nation that is Post Rule-of-Law. The government makes the rules by decree as needed and if you run afoul of them you'll eventually be run over by them. - Me

June 16, 2006, 04:51 PM	#2
2nd Amendment Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2000 Location: B.F.E. Posts: 1,720	Meh. So much for jumping the gun... Rep. McKinney won't be charged in scuffle By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer 11 minutes ago WASHINGTON - A grand jury declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney on Friday in connection with a confrontation in which she admitted hitting a police officer who tried to stop her from entering a House office building. The grand jury had been considering the case since shortly after the March 29 incident, which has led to much discussion on Capitol Hill about race and the conduct of lawmakers and the officers who protect them. "We respect the decision of the grand jury in this difficult matter," said U.S. Attorney Kenneth Wainstein. His statement, released late Friday, also included support for the officer involved, Paul McKenna, and the Capitol Police. He said, "This is a tremendously difficult job, and it is one that Officer McKenna and his colleagues perform with the utmost professionalism and dignity." With that, Wainstein closed a case that has simmered with racial and political tension. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060616/...nney_scuffle_3 __________________ Scott Conklin We now live in a nation that is Post Rule-of-Law. The government makes the rules by decree as needed and if you run afoul of them you'll eventually be run over by them. - Me

June 16, 2006, 05:22 PM	#4
contender6030 Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: backwoods, GA Posts: 306	Frickin amazing!!! Can't wait to hear what Ann Coulter will have to say about this one!!! __________________ ONE SHOT!!If you miss, Reload!

June 16, 2006, 06:25 PM	#5
Eghad Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,893	Yadda liberals yadda yadda liberals yadda liberals yadda yadda godless liberals, yadda yadda liberals is what Ann will have to say lol after all she is busy promoting that book __________________ Have a nice day at the range NRA Life Member

June 16, 2006, 07:25 PM	#6
2nd Amendment Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2000 Location: B.F.E. Posts: 1,720	I'm sure Cynthia will be saying yada yada yada conservatives yada yada yada, so it all balances out. __________________ Scott Conklin We now live in a nation that is Post Rule-of-Law. The government makes the rules by decree as needed and if you run afoul of them you'll eventually be run over by them. - Me

June 16, 2006, 05:11 PM	#3
rhgunguy Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2006 Posts: 1,058	Some animals are more equal than others. What a sad day for America.

June 16, 2006, 07:31 PM	#7
hksigwalther Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1998 Location: NE OH, USA Posts: 3,202	Come on. You guys didn't really think anything would happen, did you? __________________ - Ron V.

June 16, 2006, 07:45 PM	#8
Blammer Member Join Date: June 13, 2006 Location: The Bearflag Republic Posts: 50	Too Bad! No, I didn't think she'd be indited, it being Washington & all that signifies

June 16, 2006, 07:52 PM	#9
2nd Amendment Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2000 Location: B.F.E. Posts: 1,720	Ya know, yeah, I had hoped for the right thing to happen. For once. __________________ Scott Conklin We now live in a nation that is Post Rule-of-Law. The government makes the rules by decree as needed and if you run afoul of them you'll eventually be run over by them. - Me

June 16, 2006, 08:52 PM	#10
TheBluesMan Staff Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,566	Two and a half months later, they decline to indict. Think there was some "backroom dealing" going on? I expect the police union to go ballistic over this. And rightly so. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic...1mckinney1.gif __________________ -Dave Miller ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! NRA Certified Instructor: Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Home Firearms Safety, Personal Protection. Tick-off Obama - Join the NRA Today - Save $10

June 16, 2006, 09:50 PM	#12
contender6030 Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: backwoods, GA Posts: 306	You said a'mouthfull Garand Guy!!! __________________ ONE SHOT!!If you miss, Reload!

June 17, 2006, 12:08 AM	#13
pipoman Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2005 Posts: 895	Keep the jury pool in mind. This is the same people who elected and re-elected Marion Barry.

June 17, 2006, 06:21 AM	#15
SOSARMS Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2006 Location: The great Buckeye state...where nuts are not just for eating Posts: 617	Cynthia.... Just keep in mind....if there was NO glove to fit...they would have had to acquit....

June 17, 2006, 07:21 AM	#16
GoSlash27 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,118	Meh. McKinney, Rove....what's the difference? __________________ Bill of Rights Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Not available in all states. Some restrictions apply.

June 17, 2006, 07:32 AM	#17
renegadecreation Member Join Date: March 26, 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 31	This is a truly sad representation of what power and money can get you! If that would have been a common person they would have buried them in a federal penitentiary! Sickening!

June 17, 2006, 07:48 AM	#19
GoSlash27 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,118	"Evidence"? You suggesting that there's no evidence against Rove in the Plame case/ coverup? Puh-leeze! At least McKinney was absolved by the grand jury itself. Not the same thing as the prosecutor declining to pursue. __________________ Bill of Rights Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Not available in all states. Some restrictions apply.

June 17, 2006, 08:45 AM	#20
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 183	How about not hijacking the thread trying to find offsetting sins among the GOP and white people?

June 17, 2006, 09:04 AM	#21
rick_reno Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 918	Why should she be charged? She's a member of Congress. I hope you're not naive enough to believe for one minute that they're like us.

June 17, 2006, 10:38 AM	#22
GoSlash27 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,118	"White people"?!? What does this have to do with white people? It's not a commentary on 'offsetting sins'. Rep. McKinney is a lout, no 2 ways about it. This is a commentary on the relative reception between this thread and the Rove thread. Only a truly partisan person would have a different opinion about these two cases. __________________ Bill of Rights Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Not available in all states. Some restrictions apply.

June 17, 2006, 10:51 AM	#24
Richard Hanson Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 93	Considering that her actions where not sufficient to cause the officer to arrest her at the time of the event, I think that little or no harm was done. It is my view that the decision of the grand jury was appropriate. Respectfully, Richard

June 17, 2006, 11:21 AM	#25
GoSlash27 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,118	Antipitas, No, a partisan lefty would say that McKinney was a victim of Republican politics and while Rove got off due to his political clout. A righty would say the opposite. I'm saying that justice was not served in either case. Now how is that partisan? Or is it your view that anything not 100% pro-Republican is therefore 100% pro-Democrat? Nevermind. I will abide by your wishes and end this line of thought within this thread, but I will address it in a new thread. Going on strictly the merits (or lack thereof) of the McKinney case, let's review: She appeared before the Grand Jury, a body of average citizens. They heard all the evidence and testimony. They declined to indict. What's the big problem here? How did her 'political influence' affect the deliberations of a Grand Jury? Methinks all this wailing and gnashing of teeth has more to do with her politics than her actions. __________________ Bill of Rights Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Not available in all states. Some restrictions apply.