Does anyone know Vulcan?

shooter_john · July 31, 2006, 08:40 PM

I have been looking for something a little different, and I came across these Vulcan V18's.

(http://www.vulcanarmament.com/cgisto...d=1865844.2792 )

It is looks like a mix between an AR180 and a FAL, or just an AR180 with FAL parts.
Does anyone know about or have experience with Vulcan or the polymer AR lower? Do they hold up as well as the aluminum one's or would it be a good decision for me to keep looking?

Thanks in advance!

Lycanthrope · July 31, 2006, 11:37 PM

The Vulcan/Hesse AR's have a really bad reputation. Never had experience with one myself, but that's the usual word. Take it for the $.02 it's worth.

Kayser · July 31, 2006, 11:55 PM

Curious. They have a whole line of .50's for ~$2000. That's waaaaay less than your typical BMG rifle. What gives here? Are these just kaboom specials?

shooter_john · August 1, 2006, 02:57 AM

I don't know anything about these, I'd never heard of em until I ran across the one I linked above. It sounds like I may not have heard of them for a reason!

kozak6 · August 2, 2006, 09:49 PM

I'd be real suspicious of it.

Vulcan is the company formerly known as Hesse. Hesse was well known for making poor quality and potentially dangerous products.

Scorch · August 3, 2006, 01:08 PM

It's a knockoff of the AR-180, which had a spotty reputation also. Hmmmm, a company with questionable quality making a rifle with questionable reliability . . .

shooter_john · August 3, 2006, 03:36 PM

Ok, I think this one will be marked off of the prospect list!

Kermit · August 3, 2006, 08:59 PM

I almost bought a Vulcan lower when off list lowers became available in CA...then I saw all the negative threads on the boards. Now I don't have any 1st hand knowledge w/ the Vulcans & presumably there are many happy customers of them but I'm glad I was able to change my purchase...

**JohnKSa** · August 3, 2006, 09:26 PM

When the name Hesse became commonly synonymous with poor quality, they changed it to Vulcan Arms.

silicon wolverine · August 4, 2006, 07:15 PM

OK have any of you actually OWNED a vulcan product? No? Cause i do. I own three of them. A V-10-9 9mm pistol (cobray knockoff) V-10-9 carbine and the aforementioned .50 BMG. All three needed adjustment/TLC out of the box. Less than 1 hour each. The 9mm pistol needed a new hammer ($3.55) after about 250 rounds. Otherwise no problems. The 9mm pistol is a bullet hose for range fun. THe carbine is a decent shooter with 3" groups at 100 yards with iron sights. Both use cheap sten mags. The .50 shoots 3" at 300 yards (longest ive shot it) with milsurp ammo and a simmons scope. Everybody rips on vulcan because they used to be hesse. Seems to me they've done quite a bit of improving.

SW

kozak6 · August 5, 2006, 12:13 AM

Well, you see, it's just that I prefer guns that work out of the box.

When I buy a new gun, I just ...feel that it should work properly. That's all.

On another forum I frequent, one of the members got one of the V10-9's. It wouldn't even HAND CYCLE out of the box.

It's just that I kind of see that as kind of a problem, you know?

And of course, then there were the potentially dangerous products as well.

techmike · August 10, 2006, 01:38 PM

Everybody rips on vulcan because they used to be hesse.

Not true...I rip on them for their cheesy marketing.

I had one of their MP5K knockoffs nad it would neither feed or eject with any regularity. YMMV

July 31, 2006, 08:40 PM	#1
shooter_john Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2002 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 1,143	Does anyone know Vulcan? I have been looking for something a little different, and I came across these Vulcan V18's. (http://www.vulcanarmament.com/cgisto...d=1865844.2792 ) It is looks like a mix between an AR180 and a FAL, or just an AR180 with FAL parts. Does anyone know about or have experience with Vulcan or the polymer AR lower? Do they hold up as well as the aluminum one's or would it be a good decision for me to keep looking? Thanks in advance!

July 31, 2006, 11:55 PM	#3
Kayser Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Illinois :( Posts: 386	Curious. They have a whole line of .50's for ~$2000. That's waaaaay less than your typical BMG rifle. What gives here? Are these just kaboom specials? __________________ ----------------- Box Of Truth Afficionado!

August 3, 2006, 01:08 PM	#6
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 6,686	It's a knockoff of the AR-180, which had a spotty reputation also. Hmmmm, a company with questionable quality making a rifle with questionable reliability . . . __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. http://www.johntaylormachine.com/ http://yourhealthshows.com

August 3, 2006, 08:59 PM	#8
Kermit Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2001 Location: California Posts: 2,983	I almost bought a Vulcan lower when off list lowers became available in CA...then I saw all the negative threads on the boards. Now I don't have any 1st hand knowledge w/ the Vulcans & presumably there are many happy customers of them but I'm glad I was able to change my purchase... __________________ My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it. Barack Obama

August 3, 2006, 09:26 PM	#9
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 12,202	When the name Hesse became commonly synonymous with poor quality, they changed it to Vulcan Arms. __________________ Did you know that there is a TEXAS State Rifle Association? Check out Black Bear Flashlights. Gun Shows this Weekend.

July 31, 2006, 11:37 PM	#2
Lycanthrope Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2001 Location: PA Posts: 1,752	The Vulcan/Hesse AR's have a really bad reputation. Never had experience with one myself, but that's the usual word. Take it for the $.02 it's worth.

August 1, 2006, 02:57 AM	#4
shooter_john Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2002 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 1,143	I don't know anything about these, I'd never heard of em until I ran across the one I linked above. It sounds like I may not have heard of them for a reason!

August 2, 2006, 09:49 PM	#5
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,352	I'd be real suspicious of it. Vulcan is the company formerly known as Hesse. Hesse was well known for making poor quality and potentially dangerous products.

August 3, 2006, 03:36 PM	#7
shooter_john Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2002 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 1,143	Ok, I think this one will be marked off of the prospect list!

August 4, 2006, 07:15 PM	#10
silicon wolverine Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2006 Location: South dakota Posts: 674	OK have any of you actually OWNED a vulcan product? No? Cause i do. I own three of them. A V-10-9 9mm pistol (cobray knockoff) V-10-9 carbine and the aforementioned .50 BMG. All three needed adjustment/TLC out of the box. Less than 1 hour each. The 9mm pistol needed a new hammer ($3.55) after about 250 rounds. Otherwise no problems. The 9mm pistol is a bullet hose for range fun. THe carbine is a decent shooter with 3" groups at 100 yards with iron sights. Both use cheap sten mags. The .50 shoots 3" at 300 yards (longest ive shot it) with milsurp ammo and a simmons scope. Everybody rips on vulcan because they used to be hesse. Seems to me they've done quite a bit of improving. SW

August 5, 2006, 12:13 AM	#11
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,352	Well, you see, it's just that I prefer guns that work out of the box. When I buy a new gun, I just ...feel that it should work properly. That's all. On another forum I frequent, one of the members got one of the V10-9's. It wouldn't even HAND CYCLE out of the box. It's just that I kind of see that as kind of a problem, you know? And of course, then there were the potentially dangerous products as well.

August 10, 2006, 01:38 PM	#12
techmike Member Join Date: October 14, 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 60	Everybody rips on vulcan because they used to be hesse. Not true...I rip on them for their cheesy marketing. I had one of their MP5K knockoffs nad it would neither feed or eject with any regularity. YMMV