|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Today's Posts | Search |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
August 18, 2006, 01:11 PM | #26 | |
Staff
Join Date: February 12, 2001
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 24,993
|
Quote:
Remember, in a typical self-defense shooting, the threat is over by the time you call the cops. That means that they are NOT coming to the scene to HELP you. So, ask yourself, WHY ARE THEY THERE? Once the reality of the situation dawns, your course of action is clear.
__________________
Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?
|
|
August 18, 2006, 06:20 PM | #27 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 17, 2002
Location: Orl Fla
Posts: 3,254
|
OK so now you guys are turning me back to my original STFU theory.
Quote:
My words have just as much ability to impact their opinion as my silence does, maybe more.
__________________
Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing |
|
August 18, 2006, 10:01 PM | #28 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 8, 2001
Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX
Posts: 12,717
|
Quote:
As for getting home alright, what makes you think you are going home right away? If you need a ride, the officers will call for you or let you call, AFTER they are done with you.
__________________
"If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange |
|
August 20, 2006, 10:34 PM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 18, 2004
Posts: 1,446
|
Again. CALL YOUR ATTORNEY.
It really is not that hard to do. Cops are used to this. they do not think you are hiding anything. They are going to say, this is a person who in midst of being really, really shook up, was able to function enough to do the right thing. IF ANY COP TELLS YOU YOU DO NOT NEED AN ATTORNEY< JUST TALK TO HIM AND THEY WILL MAKE IT RIGHT< THEY ARE LYING!!!! PERIOD. It is what they are told to do, to get the most info out of you while you are in a form of shock. get you to blab you need to say nothing. |
August 20, 2006, 11:12 PM | #30 | |
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: March 24, 2005
Location: Steubenville, OH
Posts: 4,446
|
Quote:
However, if we arrive on scene and you're blabbing your head off about what happened, we're under no obligation to tell you to shut up, and everything you say is admissible in a court of law. That is why a lot of officers will wait before questioning you, so that they don't have to read Miranda, and the longer we wait, the greater chance you're going to blab. The posts here advocating calling an attorney first are correct. An officer telling you that you don't need an attorney is not only unethical, he's in violation of the law as well, and I would personally castrate any of my people that did so .
__________________
TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does your post make you? I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie |
|
August 21, 2006, 10:20 AM | #31 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 7, 2006
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 626
|
Actually, it is legally impossible for the police to lie to a peon, because when they don't tell you the truth it's not called lying. It's called permissible deception and they can tell you almost anything to get you to run your mouth or confess. ("If it was an accident the DA will understand." yatta yatta) The DA here in Tarrant county TX told the cops to ignore the new definition of carrying while traveling and arrest anyone who has a gun and no CHL. The cops take their marching orders from the Persecuting Shyster's Office, not from the peons or the legislature. I'm not sure I should even admit to shooting the assailant or say anything beyond "I was in fear for my life and escape was not feasible."
|
August 21, 2006, 05:10 PM | #32 |
Member
Join Date: August 5, 2006
Location: lawndale, nc
Posts: 46
|
sounds like people like me ( moved to a new state and dont really know anyone besides the family) needs to find an lawyer to call on..
i do have a few friends but noone i would call a true bro yet.. left all thoughs behind... time will tell on the new people... a lawyer is always a lawyer i guess, just need to get a good one.
__________________
Ride Hard, Ride Safe, Ride Often Wolfy and Peggerz |
August 23, 2006, 12:20 PM | #33 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 18, 2004
Posts: 1,446
|
Look in the paper and see who has defended police officers if they have had a shooting that has gone to the DA. Cops know which guys they do not want to face in court and who they want on their side when they need one. Otherwise just look at who does the bigger cases on the news.
usually in every market, there is one Criminal defense Lawyer who stands out. I would also consider researching a GP attorney before you need one. I found mine thru the local builders assoc. He does mainly real estate and transaction work, but he has put me on to those who specialize in areas that I have needed. IF you find one you can trust, they are worth their weight in gold. He told me who to contact re: criminal defense and made sure I was known to that atty as a good guy. That makes me sure that IF something happens at 2 am, someone is going to answer the phone when I call him. People always whine about the cost of lawyers, I will tell you they have been far cheaper to have them than to not. When things go south, and your paperwork, legal standing, and position are solid, Life is much easier. |
August 23, 2006, 01:08 PM | #34 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 355
|
This is settled.
Capt Charlie , an actual officer has answered this thread. There should be no more specualtion on this issue. As on tv "Lawyer Up", that's the only advice.
Thank you Capt. Charlie. Find a Lawyer |
|
|