what happened to advanced search?

oldbillthundercheif · August 25, 2006, 08:51 PM

It used to be an option when you would click on the Search tab on the top bar. It has gone away.

pax · August 25, 2006, 09:05 PM

I think tyme & the other tech geeks kind of got sick of dealing with the buggy vBulletin search interface, and decided to link to Google's search engine instead.

If it's up for a vote at all, guys -- I'd rather deal with buggy vB searches than have to read through a jillion not-by-date and not-by-post and not-by-username and not-by-thread title Google returns.

pax

TheBluesMan · August 26, 2006, 11:46 AM

Thanks for the suggestion, pax. I'm with you. The advanced search is invaluable.

I think there are other technical considerations at this time. Once those are addressed, we'll get the advanced search back.

-Dave

**Mike Irwin** · August 26, 2006, 12:04 PM

I agree, the advanced search is a FAR better option.

Yes, VB search is buggy.

But, it also returns FAR more useful information.

DOCSpanky · August 28, 2006, 10:23 AM

Yes please VB search! I tried for 20 minutes today to find a relevant 28 guage post!

:barf: google more like gaggle!

**JohnKSa** · August 28, 2006, 11:33 PM

Ooops...

Chris17404 · August 30, 2006, 02:21 PM

Yes, please bring back the original advanced search function. I use almost every day!

Crosshair · August 30, 2006, 05:15 PM

+1 on advanced search. It may have it's flaws, but it is better than having 20,000 posts to wade through.

MGRacer · August 30, 2006, 08:39 PM

+1E10 on bringing back the Advanced Search

ColtMember · September 1, 2006, 08:20 AM

+1 to bringing back the advanced search.

TheBluesMan · September 1, 2006, 03:53 PM

Enough with the +1s. We get the picture. It'll be back as soon as we can do it.

Crosshair · September 2, 2006, 03:02 AM

Just making sure you get the picture.

maas · September 2, 2006, 03:47 AM

isn't it funny that the mods think that we sound like children

gunslinger555 · September 4, 2006, 06:35 PM

Just click on "new posts" then click on "search" ware it says "search:new posts" its right above ware it says "Thread / Thread Starter" it still works.

**tyme** · September 7, 2006, 10:25 PM

No, it doesn't... not really. The forums have not been reindexed. Advanced search is still accessible, but you'll only get results from the last few weeks.

tube_ee · September 7, 2006, 11:07 PM

When you re-implement advanced search, is there any way to enable searches on short strings? There's a lot of firearms stuff, like shotgun gauges, that only uses two characters. A phrase search would be nice, and if boolean searches worked like they were supposed to, that'd be pretty neat.

I'm sure a lot of this is built into the software, but vBulletin's search functions have always seemed pretty mono-buttocked to me. The search functionality of Google with the display modes of vB... that would be best.

You guys work way harder for all of us than we've any right to expect, thanks a bunch.

--Shannon

Crosshair · September 8, 2006, 01:02 AM

What I think many people miss is being able to isolate searches to one of the sub-forums, like handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc. I know I do. The google search is nice, but I think people want to be able to focus on a certian area and be able to fine tune it a bit. Just my oppinion.

**tyme** · September 8, 2006, 04:21 AM

Quote:

A phrase search would be nice,

I would LOVE to know how google does this so fast.

The obvious way to do it is slow: search for each keyword of a phrase separately, then do a (slow) full text search of those posts to see which ones have the exact phrase.

Maybe they save each word index entry as a (word, documentid, word offset) triplet. That would allow them to quickly compute offset differences, but would require a gargantuan amount of storage for indexing common words.

Quote:

The search functionality of Google with the display modes of vB... that would be best.

Dear Buddha, please bring me a pony and a plastic rocket.

**Mike Irwin** · September 8, 2006, 11:00 AM

"Enough with the +1s. We get the picture. It'll be back as soon as we can do it."

+2 with a bullet.

TheBluesMan · September 8, 2006, 11:46 AM

At least it's a change of pace.

@ Mike.

August 25, 2006, 08:51 PM	#1
oldbillthundercheif Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 2,450	what happened to advanced search? It used to be an option when you would click on the Search tab on the top bar. It has gone away.

August 25, 2006, 09:05 PM	#2
pax Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2000 Location: In a state of flux Posts: 7,520	I think tyme & the other tech geeks kind of got sick of dealing with the buggy vBulletin search interface, and decided to link to Google's search engine instead. If it's up for a vote at all, guys -- I'd rather deal with buggy vB searches than have to read through a jillion not-by-date and not-by-post and not-by-username and not-by-thread title Google returns. pax __________________ Kathy Jackson My personal website: Cornered Cat

August 26, 2006, 12:04 PM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	I agree, the advanced search is a FAR better option. Yes, VB search is buggy. But, it also returns FAR more useful information. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

August 28, 2006, 10:23 AM	#5
DOCSpanky Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 1999 Location: Ashland City, TN Posts: 779	Yes please VB search! I tried for 20 minutes today to find a relevant 28 guage post! :barf: google more like gaggle! __________________ "Government is not the solution to the problem, Government is the problem!"--Ronald Reagan

August 28, 2006, 11:33 PM	#6
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,969	Ooops... __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

August 26, 2006, 11:46 AM	#3
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	Thanks for the suggestion, pax. I'm with you. The advanced search is invaluable. I think there are other technical considerations at this time. Once those are addressed, we'll get the advanced search back. -Dave

August 30, 2006, 02:21 PM	#7
Chris17404 Member Join Date: November 29, 2005 Location: York, PA Posts: 77	Yes, please bring back the original advanced search function. I use almost every day!

August 30, 2006, 05:15 PM	#8
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	+1 on advanced search. It may have it's flaws, but it is better than having 20,000 posts to wade through. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

August 30, 2006, 08:39 PM	#9
MGRacer Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2005 Posts: 130	+1E10 on bringing back the Advanced Search __________________ "A man's gotta do what he thinks is best."

September 1, 2006, 08:20 AM	#10
ColtMember Member Join Date: April 15, 2006 Posts: 15	+1 to bringing back the advanced search.

September 1, 2006, 03:53 PM	#11
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	Enough with the +1s. We get the picture. It'll be back as soon as we can do it.

September 2, 2006, 03:02 AM	#12
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	Just making sure you get the picture. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

September 2, 2006, 03:47 AM	#13
maas Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2005 Location: The state of Jefferson Posts: 897	isn't it funny that the mods think that we sound like children __________________ I don't try to offend....some times i get lucky! There's always one thing that makes Republicans look good on election day...........Democrats!

September 4, 2006, 06:35 PM	#14
gunslinger555 Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2006 Location: Lima, ohio Posts: 580	Just click on "new posts" then click on "search" ware it says "search:new posts" its right above ware it says "Thread / Thread Starter" it still works. __________________ (")_(") OMG!!! I think I shot bunny in the face!

September 7, 2006, 10:25 PM	#15
tyme Staff Join Date: October 13, 2001 Posts: 3,355	No, it doesn't... not really. The forums have not been reindexed. Advanced search is still accessible, but you'll only get results from the last few weeks. __________________ “The egg hatched...” “...the egg hatched... and a hundred baby spiders came out...” (blade runner) “Who are you?” “A friend. I'm here to prevent you from making a mistake.” “You have no idea what I'm doing here, friend.” “In specific terms, no, but I swore an oath to protect the world...” (continuum) “It's a goal you won't understand until later. Your job is to make sure he doesn't achieve the goal.” (bsg)

September 7, 2006, 11:07 PM	#16
tube_ee Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2004 Posts: 492	When you re-implement advanced search, is there any way to enable searches on short strings? There's a lot of firearms stuff, like shotgun gauges, that only uses two characters. A phrase search would be nice, and if boolean searches worked like they were supposed to, that'd be pretty neat. I'm sure a lot of this is built into the software, but vBulletin's search functions have always seemed pretty mono-buttocked to me. The search functionality of Google with the display modes of vB... that would be best. You guys work way harder for all of us than we've any right to expect, thanks a bunch. --Shannon

September 8, 2006, 01:02 AM	#17
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	What I think many people miss is being able to isolate searches to one of the sub-forums, like handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc. I know I do. The google search is nice, but I think people want to be able to focus on a certian area and be able to fine tune it a bit. Just my oppinion. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

September 8, 2006, 11:00 AM	#19
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	"Enough with the +1s. We get the picture. It'll be back as soon as we can do it." +2 with a bullet. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 8, 2006, 11:46 AM	#20
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	At least it's a change of pace. @ Mike.

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