Taurus actually worth a D...???

5whiskey · May 25, 2007, 12:40 AM

Let me open by saying I am biased and conditioned by what I've heard/read about taurus products from others. I don't, nor have I ever, own one. I'm not telling anyone out there that they are junk because I frankly don't know. I have heard from others that at times they are less than desirable, both on the internet in recent years and mostly off before then. That being said I have stayed away from taurus.

But it appears that now things are starting to change. I will say I haven't heard of many bad things about the taurus 92s. I think the general concenus is that most are happy with em'. I've also heard that the PT1911s are good to go (Lurper has one, and though I don't always agree with his point of view, he can outshoot the vast majority of us so I take his word for something). I have also heard of many satisfied customers of the millinium pro. I also picked up the latest G & A, mostly for sheer entertainment, and saw a test of the 24/7. It was the articles' authors' independant test, so I don't stake a huge amount of credit to it. BUT I'm starting to think there might actually be something to taurus, especially the Mil Pro and 24/7 series.
I love the fact that there is a manual safety on the mil pros, I refuse to own alot of guns because of the absence of a manual safety. It's one thing to have one and not use it, but it's another to not have it at all. Anywho, back to the point I have a few questions for taurus owners.

#1. Do you like your taurus? Would you buy the gun again? How often has it failed?

#2. Has anyone had to send one in for warrenty? How fast? How much runaround?

#3. WILL YOU STAKE YOUR LIFE ON A TAURUS AS A CARRY?

I looked at a mil pro not long ago but decided to go with Baby Eagle. I'm glad I got the baby eagle, it's a real shooter and I've had no FTFs except when I tried to do a torture test of my own (thank you sturm). BTW the gun failed when dry (no lube/grease on rails) but passed nicely when lubed/greased adequately. I have, however, thought of that mil pro I passed up ever since. Now that I've read this article I'm really wondering. Give me the taurus good/bad/ugly.

IMPORTANT...
I've had guns that weren't really the greatest shooters in the world but I tried to make them that in my mind. The baby eagle isn't the best thing since sliced bread and I know that know. It's not a bad little gun but it has it's quirks. What I'm trying to get at is PLEASE BE HONEST!!! If you like it but it has had FTFs then please tell me.

Jaeger · May 25, 2007, 12:55 AM

I have a PT 24/7 Pro in 45 ACP. I've probably got about 1500-2000 round through it.
With factory ammo it has been very reliable. I recently had a round or two nosedive in one of the magazines. It may be a weak spring but we'll see.
It feeds everything I have put in it and accuracy has been great.
The ergonomics are excellent, the trigger pull is great and the Heinie sights are outstanding.
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this pistol to anyone. I do carry mine off duty and trust it implicitly.

firestorm9mm · May 25, 2007, 06:47 AM

I have several tauri- pt 1911- 24/7pro 9mm- 24/7 pro .45 - m85 ultralight in .38 special. Never had any problems with them and carry the 85 several times a week as my primary defence gun. I will buy more taurus in the future along with more springfield and s&w's.

joab · May 25, 2007, 06:59 AM

This will end up like so many other Taurus threads

Some will like them and most of them will be Tauri loyalists owning many of them and other will hate them most of them have developed this hatered by word of mouth having never owned one

Customer service seems tobe the sticking point
I can't comment on that because of the many Taurus revolvers Ihave owned none have given me cause to deal with CS

Jkwas · May 25, 2007, 07:53 AM

Two Taurus, Two Smiths, and one Ruger. The Taurus 605 and 9mm Milpro get all the carry time. Both good, reliable carry weapons. As soon as I get my new holster, the MilPro will get a lot more carry time. About 1000rnds, no malfunctions or failures of any kind. I'm sure it doesn't compare to a sig etc, but I wouldn't know because I can't afford one of those. It's a good, inexpensive carry weapon.

5whiskey · May 25, 2007, 07:53 AM

I know what you mean joab, but I hope everyone is mature enough to understand that the questions were meant to be answered buy actual owners with experience. I'm trying to beat out those pre-concieved "taurus is evil" in myself. I wouldn't buy one a little while ago because of the "taurus is evil" hype.

Thing is though, the mil pros and now the 24/7s are bloody nice guns. AND they have a combination of features that are virtually impossible to find in any other weapon. I may just have one and find out how good they are myself here soon...

joab · May 25, 2007, 08:03 AM

I can't comment on any of their autos , I have never even shot one or even held one.
My only comment would be a distinct dislike of the billboards on the sides of their guns
But all of my revolvers have been flawless within reasonable limits

After about ten years or so of owning a used 85, I have a broken firing pin spring.
Gun still functions but you have to load it with the barrel tilted slightly up to keep the pin from falling and the crane is ever so slightly sprung but the gun is still accurate

One day soon I plan to send it in to test the customer service and post the result from start to finish, good or ugly, here

Officer's Match · May 25, 2007, 08:05 AM

I've had two Taurus pistols, both 92's, one stainless with ambi-safety+decock, the other, blued and safety only. Most of my other handguns are Colt 1911's in various calibers, and I have absolutely no reservations whatsoever regarding the quality, dependability or accuracy of the Taurus PT92. Those are the only models with which I have significant experience, and as such I shall refrain from speculation on other models.

kcshooter · May 25, 2007, 09:13 AM

I've got a Taurus 651 .357 that I can and do stake my life on.
I'm also trading in my Beretta 92f on a Taurus pt92. I've been considering it a long time, and I find that the Taurus is just as nice of a gun as the Beretta is but I much prefer the Taurus controls, safety/decocker and cocked and locked ability.
As far as Taurus service, I only have had one problem, where the cylinder release came loose on my revolver after about 300rds or so. I lost the screw but found the release. I called Taurus, they sent me a new release and 2 new screws and I had them in a few days. Put it on w loktite and its been fine since then. Fast and friendly, but I've never sent a gun in for repair.
They do have a few models with a shakey reliability record but most of their line is solid. Plus with a lifetime warranty, it's hard to go wrong. A lot of people complain about their Taurus but then you ask if they tried sending in to them and they give a goofy excuse as to why they haven't, but it's usually just because they want to have something to complain about.

GoGo · May 25, 2007, 09:14 AM

I can't comment on the semi auto's either.

I have a Model 85 38sp revolver that is very nice, not quite the build quality of a Ruger or S&W or Colt, but not the price tag either. But YES, I would stake my life on that gun. Its reliable and I know how to use it , never failed me.

I also bought my wife a model 94 .22 revolver for plinking fun. Its reliable, fun, and built well. But still not the same parts quality of the others mentioned above. But worth the $$ and a keeper. Taurus is worth the $$, but if you have the extra $$ to buy some of the other "upper quality" names, do it.

I'm not calling Taurus low quality, just not on par with the other big companies as far as revolvers go. Just my humble opinion.

5whiskey · May 25, 2007, 09:32 AM

Thanks everyone. Good mature posts and people posting first hand experience. Thanks

varoadking · May 25, 2007, 09:43 AM

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if you have the extra $$ to buy some of the other "upper quality" names, do it.

Sound advice...

gb_in_ga · May 25, 2007, 10:05 AM

I have a PT-92 AF that I bought NIB back in December.

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#1. Do you like your taurus? Would you buy the gun again? How often has it failed?

Yes, I like it. Yes, I'd buy another. It has failed exactly twice, on the same range outing, with the same lightly loaded LRN reloads that I had loaded up for another gun. The nature of the failure was that the loads were too light to push the slide back far enough to engage the end-of-mag slide catch. But, those same loads still cycled fine. Other than that, it has been perfect. I can't fault the gun for an ammo problem. With "conventional" factory loaded ammo it has been nothing but stellar, and has been outstanding with my "conventional" reloads too.

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#2. Has anyone had to send one in for warrenty? How fast? How much runaround?

N/A. I haven't had any need to do it.

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#3. WILL YOU STAKE YOUR LIFE ON A TAURUS AS A CARRY?

Yes -- at least I'd stake my life on my PT-92. It isn't a convenient size for CCW, but as a full size "duty" sidearm it is just fine.

Ralph Allen · May 25, 2007, 10:05 AM

I had never owned a Taurus up until about 90 days ago. I went to my local gunshop and ordered a Millenium Pro PT 745. This is a 6+1 sub compact in 45acp. I only have aproxamately 200 rounds through the gun so far. Personally I do not like the SA/DA trigger. There is toooooo much free travel/take up before firing. This makes for a slow/sloppy follow up shot. Have had no failure to feeds, BUT, have had the trigger lock up with no function what so ever. It will not pull through on DA, it's just dead. The only way to clear this malfunction is to rack the slide, there by ejecting a round, and letting the slide ram a new round in. Have had this happen 3 times since owning the weapon. Would I carry this weapon? NO!! I will continue to shoot this gun as a fun gun, plinker, trainer for malfunctions that have NEVER happened with my Glock's, Smith's, or XD's. If the gun will go 500 rounds without a malfunction, then I'll put another 1000 rounds through it. If still no malfunctions, then I will consider carrying it as a back up, but never a prime carry. As I said, this is the only Taurus I own, so I can only speak of this model. As for customer service, I called Taurus on a takedown problem, the gal who answered the phone could not answer my question so she put me through to a supervisors phone voice mail. I explaind my dilema and left all the pertinent contact info. I'm still waiting for that call. Been about 60 days now. By the way, I solved the problem on my own.
Ralph

Jaycolo · May 25, 2007, 10:32 AM

I have a ruger blackhawk and a taurus gaucho. So far Ive had less problems with the gaucho then I have had with the ruger.it also shoots better then the ruger and feels better in my hand. I personaly would buy another taurus before I would new model rugers.My dad has a older single six never had a problem with that either just dont really like the feel of it compared to my gaucho.

03Shadowbob · May 25, 2007, 10:49 AM

I have had 4 Taurus pistols since 1991, both semi-auto and revolver and they have all been good guns. Never a problem, not even a FTF or light hammer strike. I have and would again stake my life on them.
For the money, they are good guns and obviously some models are probably better than others, like the PT92 and the Model 85 SS revolver. My newest Taurus is the PT140MilPro and it has lived up to my expectations so far.
Haven't ever had to use CS so couldn't tell you.

jcharisman · May 25, 2007, 11:16 AM

In the nightstand is my trusted PT99.

I carry the MilPro PT 145.

Nuff said.

Sturmgewehre · May 25, 2007, 11:29 AM

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I'm glad I got the baby eagle, it's a real shooter and I've had no FTFs except when I tried to do a torture test of my own (thank you sturm).

Tell me more! What did you do to your Baby Eagle?

joab · May 25, 2007, 01:07 PM

I skipped over question three

I carried that Taurus 85 daily for about seven years in areas where depending on it was a real possibility
I gave my father an 85 for daily carry when he refused to move out of the neighborhood that he couldn't see turning bad

My mother also is being given an 85, 3". for her daily dependable
and my wife has depended on my father's 85 since he died last year when I'm away at night

I have better guns and guns that I thought would have been better for their needs but these are the guns that they chose and among the ones that I have shot the most and had the most confidence in

Now days, since every body has taken my 85s away from me I occasionally carry a Taurus 445 but mostly it is a Star Model BM and a 1911 in the glovebox
But honestly have not tested the 445 enough to call it durable on the scale of the 85s and I like the Star better for what I do now

5whiskey · May 25, 2007, 01:11 PM

Bwhahahaha...

I dumbed it in the creek. First time I did it bone dry with no lube at all. Fired about 2 rounds. Cleaned and lubed it up and second time put a dab of grease on the rails. Went through the whole mag. Needless to say I use a small bit of grease on the rails of all carry guns now...

dave421 · May 25, 2007, 01:35 PM

I've only owned one Taurus and that was only for about 2 weeks. It was a PT1911. There was nothing wrong with the gun, it was just wrong for me. I've never been a fan of 1911s but the Taurus intrigued me so I bought it. It just verified what I already knew, I don't like 1911s. I put around 300 rounds through it while I had it and had 0 issues that were caused by the gun (only problem I had was flipping the safety up since I wasn't used to resting my thumb on top of a 1911 safety).

That being said, I think a lot of the Taurus bashing comes from a few things. They're made in Brazil (or parts are). They use MIM parts. They're cheap-er (cost, not necessarily quality). Lastly, I think their reliability has come a long way and a lot of people still remember the unreliable ones.

Personally, I won't buy another one. At least not for a while. I was also a Taurus hater due to everything I had heard. I half expected my 1911 to jam constantly. That didn't happen. I've also got 2 friends that love their MilPros. I think my biggest issue comes from the cost. I think they're great deals but there's stuff that I find to be nicer. I'd rather pay a little more for something that feels like it's higher quality, has a nicer trigger, better sights (I hated the Heinies on my 1911), etc. A lot of that is simply perception. It's the same reason I don't like the S&W M&P pistols. They just feel cheap to me.

So I guess it just boils down to what you like. If you like the feel of a particular Taurus, go ahead and buy it. It's pretty likely that it's going to be a great gun and will provide a lot of trouble free shooting. Just remember to pay attention to what people say. It's going to be a lot better to listen to the people that have owned one than those that have never shot one or those that have a Taurus tattoo.

Crow61 · May 25, 2007, 01:41 PM

I own 2 Taurus handguns; a model 85 revolver and a PT22. I haven't had a bit of trouble with either one.

I would definately buy another Taurus.

I couldn't say about the warranty because I have never had to use it.

I think that Taurus makes very good guns.

5whiskey · May 25, 2007, 02:06 PM

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I was also a Taurus hater due to everything I had heard.

Me too, that's why I started this thread and asked for nothing but real experiences. It seems like more and more people are happy with their taurus, so maybe it's time for me to be a little bit more open minded. Taurus used to be known as "that thing which we speak not of" around my crowd but I've heard of many being happy with them I'm starting to change my mind.

As for nice guns, I'm with you. I would rather save my money and have something quality now that I sort of know a little bit about what's going on. I did by the Baby Eagle just for individuality but it is a solid and reliable gun, it just has design quirks that you have to get used to. Either way, I choose it then for being a compact, non-striker DA/SA, manual safetied pistol. I didn't like the feel of the beretta and wanted something lighter weight than the S&Ws. I bought it for the platform, which is the same reason I'm thinking of the mil pro or 24/7. It's more for the SA/DA striker with manual safety. I would like to try it out but want some opinions of OWNERS, and everyone has been pretty mature so far. Thanks again everyone.

maverickmage · May 25, 2007, 03:59 PM

Hmm... i always thought people hated Taurus because of their Jekyll and Hyde warranty service. You never know if you're going to get the good one or the bad one. When it's good... it's really good. When it's bad... you wonder why you even bothered buying it in the first place.

JR47 · May 25, 2007, 04:40 PM

I own two .38 Special Model 85s, two Model 94s, a Model 941, a Model 82, a Model 66, a PT22, a PT58S, a PT92AF, and a PT101. As you can tell by the Model numbers, all but the PT101 are pre-decocker semi-autos, and the revolvers are just as old. They are often used in training new shooters. I carried, and shot, one Model 85 loose with a steady diet of +P and +P+. Taurus rebuilt it, and it was back in my hands in six weeks, free.

I've had more problems, and equal waits with Sig, HK, and S&W. All were much more expensive than the Taurus, and failed much more quickly.

I don't buy a weapon without checking it thoroughly prior to leaving the shop. The failures were not readily obvious things. A cracked slide, a bad barrel (even though it looked fine, and a pawl that broke on the first shot.

Many of the complaints that I read about involving Taurus weapons appear to be things that would have been glaringly obvious. Mis-aligned revolver sights, sprung cranes, terrible triggers, poor finish, etc. should never leave the shop, yet these people BUY a problem, and then whine about it.

Every manufacturer has problems, and different people have their own conception of what is and isn't acceptable.

May 25, 2007, 06:59 AM	#4
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	This will end up like so many other Taurus threads Some will like them and most of them will be Tauri loyalists owning many of them and other will hate them most of them have developed this hatered by word of mouth having never owned one Customer service seems tobe the sticking point I can't comment on that because of the many Taurus revolvers Ihave owned none have given me cause to deal with CS __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

May 25, 2007, 07:53 AM	#5
Jkwas Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Mouth of the Rat, Florida Posts: 1,778	Two Taurus, Two Smiths, and one Ruger. The Taurus 605 and 9mm Milpro get all the carry time. Both good, reliable carry weapons. As soon as I get my new holster, the MilPro will get a lot more carry time. About 1000rnds, no malfunctions or failures of any kind. I'm sure it doesn't compare to a sig etc, but I wouldn't know because I can't afford one of those. It's a good, inexpensive carry weapon. __________________ I grew up in New Jersey, but later moved to Florida and made a complete recovery. Keltec: The BIC lighter of handguns http://jkwasblog.blogspot.com/

May 25, 2007, 08:03 AM	#7
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	I can't comment on any of their autos , I have never even shot one or even held one. My only comment would be a distinct dislike of the billboards on the sides of their guns But all of my revolvers have been flawless within reasonable limits After about ten years or so of owning a used 85, I have a broken firing pin spring. Gun still functions but you have to load it with the barrel tilted slightly up to keep the pin from falling and the crane is ever so slightly sprung but the gun is still accurate One day soon I plan to send it in to test the customer service and post the result from start to finish, good or ugly, here __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

May 25, 2007, 08:05 AM	#8
Officer's Match Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2007 Location: LANCASTER,OHIO Posts: 3,944	I've had two Taurus pistols, both 92's, one stainless with ambi-safety+decock, the other, blued and safety only. Most of my other handguns are Colt 1911's in various calibers, and I have absolutely no reservations whatsoever regarding the quality, dependability or accuracy of the Taurus PT92. Those are the only models with which I have significant experience, and as such I shall refrain from speculation on other models. __________________ REAL EYES REALIZE REAL LIES

May 25, 2007, 11:16 AM	#17
jcharisman Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2005 Posts: 116	Short and to the point In the nightstand is my trusted PT99. I carry the MilPro PT 145. Nuff said. __________________ I protect that which matters most.

May 25, 2007, 12:40 AM	#1
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	Taurus actually worth a D...??? Let me open by saying I am biased and conditioned by what I've heard/read about taurus products from others. I don't, nor have I ever, own one. I'm not telling anyone out there that they are junk because I frankly don't know. I have heard from others that at times they are less than desirable, both on the internet in recent years and mostly off before then. That being said I have stayed away from taurus. But it appears that now things are starting to change. I will say I haven't heard of many bad things about the taurus 92s. I think the general concenus is that most are happy with em'. I've also heard that the PT1911s are good to go (Lurper has one, and though I don't always agree with his point of view, he can outshoot the vast majority of us so I take his word for something). I have also heard of many satisfied customers of the millinium pro. I also picked up the latest G & A, mostly for sheer entertainment, and saw a test of the 24/7. It was the articles' authors' independant test, so I don't stake a huge amount of credit to it. BUT I'm starting to think there might actually be something to taurus, especially the Mil Pro and 24/7 series. I love the fact that there is a manual safety on the mil pros, I refuse to own alot of guns because of the absence of a manual safety. It's one thing to have one and not use it, but it's another to not have it at all. Anywho, back to the point I have a few questions for taurus owners. #1. Do you like your taurus? Would you buy the gun again? How often has it failed? #2. Has anyone had to send one in for warrenty? How fast? How much runaround? #3. WILL YOU STAKE YOUR LIFE ON A TAURUS AS A CARRY? I looked at a mil pro not long ago but decided to go with Baby Eagle. I'm glad I got the baby eagle, it's a real shooter and I've had no FTFs except when I tried to do a torture test of my own (thank you sturm). BTW the gun failed when dry (no lube/grease on rails) but passed nicely when lubed/greased adequately. I have, however, thought of that mil pro I passed up ever since. Now that I've read this article I'm really wondering. Give me the taurus good/bad/ugly. IMPORTANT... I've had guns that weren't really the greatest shooters in the world but I tried to make them that in my mind. The baby eagle isn't the best thing since sliced bread and I know that know. It's not a bad little gun but it has it's quirks. What I'm trying to get at is PLEASE BE HONEST!!! If you like it but it has had FTFs then please tell me.

May 25, 2007, 12:55 AM	#2
Jaeger Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: PA Posts: 365	I have a PT 24/7 Pro in 45 ACP. I've probably got about 1500-2000 round through it. With factory ammo it has been very reliable. I recently had a round or two nosedive in one of the magazines. It may be a weak spring but we'll see. It feeds everything I have put in it and accuracy has been great. The ergonomics are excellent, the trigger pull is great and the Heinie sights are outstanding. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this pistol to anyone. I do carry mine off duty and trust it implicitly.

May 25, 2007, 06:47 AM	#3
firestorm9mm Member Join Date: January 14, 2006 Location: Plains PA Posts: 88	I have several tauri- pt 1911- 24/7pro 9mm- 24/7 pro .45 - m85 ultralight in .38 special. Never had any problems with them and carry the 85 several times a week as my primary defence gun. I will buy more taurus in the future along with more springfield and s&w's. __________________ Everytime I shoot the X moves

May 25, 2007, 09:13 AM	#9
kcshooter Junior member Join Date: May 6, 2007 Posts: 439	I've got a Taurus 651 .357 that I can and do stake my life on. I'm also trading in my Beretta 92f on a Taurus pt92. I've been considering it a long time, and I find that the Taurus is just as nice of a gun as the Beretta is but I much prefer the Taurus controls, safety/decocker and cocked and locked ability. As far as Taurus service, I only have had one problem, where the cylinder release came loose on my revolver after about 300rds or so. I lost the screw but found the release. I called Taurus, they sent me a new release and 2 new screws and I had them in a few days. Put it on w loktite and its been fine since then. Fast and friendly, but I've never sent a gun in for repair. They do have a few models with a shakey reliability record but most of their line is solid. Plus with a lifetime warranty, it's hard to go wrong. A lot of people complain about their Taurus but then you ask if they tried sending in to them and they give a goofy excuse as to why they haven't, but it's usually just because they want to have something to complain about.

May 25, 2007, 09:14 AM	#10
GoGo Member Join Date: May 19, 2007 Posts: 64	I can't comment on the semi auto's either. I have a Model 85 38sp revolver that is very nice, not quite the build quality of a Ruger or S&W or Colt, but not the price tag either. But YES, I would stake my life on that gun. Its reliable and I know how to use it , never failed me. I also bought my wife a model 94 .22 revolver for plinking fun. Its reliable, fun, and built well. But still not the same parts quality of the others mentioned above. But worth the $$ and a keeper. Taurus is worth the $$, but if you have the extra $$ to buy some of the other "upper quality" names, do it. I'm not calling Taurus low quality, just not on par with the other big companies as far as revolvers go. Just my humble opinion.

May 25, 2007, 09:32 AM	#11
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	Thanks everyone. Good mature posts and people posting first hand experience. Thanks

May 25, 2007, 10:05 AM	#14
Ralph Allen Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2007 Posts: 436	I had never owned a Taurus up until about 90 days ago. I went to my local gunshop and ordered a Millenium Pro PT 745. This is a 6+1 sub compact in 45acp. I only have aproxamately 200 rounds through the gun so far. Personally I do not like the SA/DA trigger. There is toooooo much free travel/take up before firing. This makes for a slow/sloppy follow up shot. Have had no failure to feeds, BUT, have had the trigger lock up with no function what so ever. It will not pull through on DA, it's just dead. The only way to clear this malfunction is to rack the slide, there by ejecting a round, and letting the slide ram a new round in. Have had this happen 3 times since owning the weapon. Would I carry this weapon? NO!! I will continue to shoot this gun as a fun gun, plinker, trainer for malfunctions that have NEVER happened with my Glock's, Smith's, or XD's. If the gun will go 500 rounds without a malfunction, then I'll put another 1000 rounds through it. If still no malfunctions, then I will consider carrying it as a back up, but never a prime carry. As I said, this is the only Taurus I own, so I can only speak of this model. As for customer service, I called Taurus on a takedown problem, the gal who answered the phone could not answer my question so she put me through to a supervisors phone voice mail. I explaind my dilema and left all the pertinent contact info. I'm still waiting for that call. Been about 60 days now. By the way, I solved the problem on my own. Ralph

May 25, 2007, 10:32 AM	#15
Jaycolo Junior member Join Date: March 26, 2007 Posts: 59	I have a ruger blackhawk and a taurus gaucho. So far Ive had less problems with the gaucho then I have had with the ruger.it also shoots better then the ruger and feels better in my hand. I personaly would buy another taurus before I would new model rugers.My dad has a older single six never had a problem with that either just dont really like the feel of it compared to my gaucho.

May 25, 2007, 10:49 AM	#16
03Shadowbob Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 176	I have had 4 Taurus pistols since 1991, both semi-auto and revolver and they have all been good guns. Never a problem, not even a FTF or light hammer strike. I have and would again stake my life on them. For the money, they are good guns and obviously some models are probably better than others, like the PT92 and the Model 85 SS revolver. My newest Taurus is the PT140MilPro and it has lived up to my expectations so far. Haven't ever had to use CS so couldn't tell you.

May 25, 2007, 01:07 PM	#19
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	I skipped over question three I carried that Taurus 85 daily for about seven years in areas where depending on it was a real possibility I gave my father an 85 for daily carry when he refused to move out of the neighborhood that he couldn't see turning bad My mother also is being given an 85, 3". for her daily dependable and my wife has depended on my father's 85 since he died last year when I'm away at night I have better guns and guns that I thought would have been better for their needs but these are the guns that they chose and among the ones that I have shot the most and had the most confidence in Now days, since every body has taken my 85s away from me I occasionally carry a Taurus 445 but mostly it is a Star Model BM and a 1911 in the glovebox But honestly have not tested the 445 enough to call it durable on the scale of the 85s and I like the Star better for what I do now __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

May 25, 2007, 01:11 PM	#20
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	Bwhahahaha... I dumbed it in the creek. First time I did it bone dry with no lube at all. Fired about 2 rounds. Cleaned and lubed it up and second time put a dab of grease on the rails. Went through the whole mag. Needless to say I use a small bit of grease on the rails of all carry guns now...

May 25, 2007, 01:35 PM	#21
dave421 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2006 Posts: 510	I've only owned one Taurus and that was only for about 2 weeks. It was a PT1911. There was nothing wrong with the gun, it was just wrong for me. I've never been a fan of 1911s but the Taurus intrigued me so I bought it. It just verified what I already knew, I don't like 1911s. I put around 300 rounds through it while I had it and had 0 issues that were caused by the gun (only problem I had was flipping the safety up since I wasn't used to resting my thumb on top of a 1911 safety). That being said, I think a lot of the Taurus bashing comes from a few things. They're made in Brazil (or parts are). They use MIM parts. They're cheap-er (cost, not necessarily quality). Lastly, I think their reliability has come a long way and a lot of people still remember the unreliable ones. Personally, I won't buy another one. At least not for a while. I was also a Taurus hater due to everything I had heard. I half expected my 1911 to jam constantly. That didn't happen. I've also got 2 friends that love their MilPros. I think my biggest issue comes from the cost. I think they're great deals but there's stuff that I find to be nicer. I'd rather pay a little more for something that feels like it's higher quality, has a nicer trigger, better sights (I hated the Heinies on my 1911), etc. A lot of that is simply perception. It's the same reason I don't like the S&W M&P pistols. They just feel cheap to me. So I guess it just boils down to what you like. If you like the feel of a particular Taurus, go ahead and buy it. It's pretty likely that it's going to be a great gun and will provide a lot of trouble free shooting. Just remember to pay attention to what people say. It's going to be a lot better to listen to the people that have owned one than those that have never shot one or those that have a Taurus tattoo.

May 25, 2007, 01:41 PM	#22
Crow61 Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 175	I own 2 Taurus handguns; a model 85 revolver and a PT22. I haven't had a bit of trouble with either one. I would definately buy another Taurus. I couldn't say about the warranty because I have never had to use it. I think that Taurus makes very good guns. __________________ Crow61

May 25, 2007, 03:59 PM	#24
maverickmage Member Join Date: April 1, 2007 Posts: 20	Hmm... i always thought people hated Taurus because of their Jekyll and Hyde warranty service. You never know if you're going to get the good one or the bad one. When it's good... it's really good. When it's bad... you wonder why you even bothered buying it in the first place.

May 25, 2007, 04:40 PM	#25
JR47 Junior member Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,228	I own two .38 Special Model 85s, two Model 94s, a Model 941, a Model 82, a Model 66, a PT22, a PT58S, a PT92AF, and a PT101. As you can tell by the Model numbers, all but the PT101 are pre-decocker semi-autos, and the revolvers are just as old. They are often used in training new shooters. I carried, and shot, one Model 85 loose with a steady diet of +P and +P+. Taurus rebuilt it, and it was back in my hands in six weeks, free. I've had more problems, and equal waits with Sig, HK, and S&W. All were much more expensive than the Taurus, and failed much more quickly. I don't buy a weapon without checking it thoroughly prior to leaving the shop. The failures were not readily obvious things. A cracked slide, a bad barrel (even though it looked fine, and a pawl that broke on the first shot. Many of the complaints that I read about involving Taurus weapons appear to be things that would have been glaringly obvious. Mis-aligned revolver sights, sprung cranes, terrible triggers, poor finish, etc. should never leave the shop, yet these people BUY a problem, and then whine about it. Every manufacturer has problems, and different people have their own conception of what is and isn't acceptable.