.50BMG Richochet..luckest man alive

p99guy · June 29, 2007, 11:21 AM

http://www.madogre.com/PowerHouse/50caliber.wmv

Good gaud! EEEEEK! That last item you see held up is part of the insides of electronic shooting muffs

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FirstFreedom · June 29, 2007, 11:55 AM

In a way, he's lucky. In a way, he's extremely unlucky - what's the chance that a ricochet would come directly straight back like that?

p99guy · June 29, 2007, 11:57 AM

If his guardian angel hadnt been a soccer goalie...

Double Naught Spy · June 29, 2007, 12:10 PM

This was posted over on THR. Somebody determined that the projectile, or what was left of it, was traveling only about 190 fps based upon the sound analysis and impact timing. That is still pretty fast. They also figured it was about 90 meters (100 yards).

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...ight=boom+head

Rimrod · June 29, 2007, 01:39 PM

Was it the projectile that came back or a piece of the target?

Jason_G · June 29, 2007, 02:04 PM

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Was it the projectile that came back or a piece of the target?

More than likely it was the bullet (what was left of it). Those .50 BMG rounds have a "soft" steel core. More than likely it was the core that made it back to him.
If you look at the video closely the bullet takes a one-hopper before it hits him in the head. You can see dirt kicked up in front of his bench just before he gets smacked. I think he would've been really hurt if it hadn't hit the ground first.

Jason

Double Naught Spy · June 29, 2007, 07:07 PM

How do you know those rounds had a soft steel core? Just what .50 bmg round has a soft steel core?

Jason_G · June 29, 2007, 07:24 PM

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How do you know those rounds had a soft steel core? Just what .50 bmg round has a soft steel core?

The guy that got hit posted over on THR under the humerous and appropriate monaker "HeadshotWillie". He said it was regular .50 BMG ball ammo, I forget what the military designation for it is, but it does have a "soft" steel core under the jacket. The armor piercing rounds have a harder steel core.

Jason

omegaspoon · June 29, 2007, 09:03 PM

hey the link to the video won't work and I'd really like to see this. Wondering if someone could find another link.

Thanks

Trajan · June 29, 2007, 10:31 PM

doesn't work for me either

tomh1426 · June 29, 2007, 10:37 PM

Or me
I shot a 7.62x54 at a steel plate and the steel penitrator (?) came pefectly staraight back and hit me over my eye.
I was bleeding a lot and everyone I was with freaked out.

Trapper L · June 29, 2007, 11:07 PM

The link works but its slow as in real slow. I was married to an ER nurse and she had a lady come in with a head wound from the same thing- shooting steel. Gotta make sure if you shoot steel that it is angled downward so any bullet hits the ground before flying off to parts unknown.

Dannyboy303 · June 30, 2007, 02:19 AM

One of my friends shot a steel plate on accident with his 223 from about 20yards away and as soon as he fired he yelled out in pain. the base of the projectile had bounced back and hit him in the leg. lucky it didnt pierce but it did give a nice bruise. Even luckier was that it didnt hit me who was standing beside the moron

blume357 · June 30, 2007, 06:58 AM

you could here the dern round coming back at him.

Double Naught Spy · June 30, 2007, 11:23 AM

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The guy that got hit posted over on THR under the humerous and appropriate monaker "HeadshotWillie". He said it was regular .50 BMG ball ammo, I forget what the military designation for it is, but it does have a "soft" steel core under the jacket. The armor piercing rounds have a harder steel core.

Regular .50 BMG ball is a lead core bullet with a copper jacket with no steel core. Maybe you could find the military designation for "soft steel core" ammo, but I have never seen any. M33 is considered a mild steel core, but that is not regular ball.

Jason_G · June 30, 2007, 07:27 PM

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Regular .50 BMG ball is a lead core bullet with a copper jacket with no steel core. Maybe you could find the military designation for "soft steel core" ammo, but I have never seen any. M33 is considered a mild steel core, but that is not regular ball.

I dunno, but at any rate, the guy that got hit mentioned looking for the "steel slug", so it must've had a steel core. I asked him if it was regular ball or AP, and he said regular ball. That leads me to believe it was something like M33 which is shown as the first round on the left (a recovered slug) of this picture that he was shooting. If there's lead core ball that is more abundant then I apologize for the confusion by calling that "regular ball". I was just repeating what the guy that shot it mentioned.
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?i...2200200tp4.jpg
I don't think lead would've bounced back that far and that fast anyway, it would've probably pancaked and splashed some, but would've stayed pretty close to the target I think, but I could be wrong about that.

EDIT: For those that aren't getting the link, you have to "right click --> Save As," and then open it up

Jason

qlajlu · June 30, 2007, 10:17 PM

Check it out. The shot was taken at a steel plate and SHOULD have penetrated it, but it ricoched. You can hear it coming and see dust kick up when the bullet hit the ground just before smacking the shooter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

redblair · June 30, 2007, 10:19 PM

That's scary.

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Dec 15, 1791

Don H · June 30, 2007, 10:53 PM

Also under discussion here: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=252921

redblair · July 1, 2007, 12:02 AM

Try this site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

B

Dec 15, 1791

tomh1426 · July 1, 2007, 12:22 AM

Wow , I didnt think it would be like that.
You can see it hit the dirt in front of him first , what are the odd's

revjen45 · July 1, 2007, 09:40 AM

When I worked for Michigan Armament I took some of their .380s to the range. One shot came straight back and hit me in the forehead. Bad judgement in going shooting alone, good luck I wasn't injured.

**Bud Helms** · July 1, 2007, 09:50 AM

... moving to General Discussion

June 29, 2007, 11:21 AM	#1
p99guy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Haslet,Texas(DFW area) Posts: 1,506	.50BMG Richochet..luckest man alive http://www.madogre.com/PowerHouse/50caliber.wmv Good gaud! EEEEEK! That last item you see held up is part of the insides of electronic shooting muffs __________________ __________________ Lighten up Francis!.....;Actor Warren Oats, in the movie "Stripes"

June 29, 2007, 11:57 AM	#3
p99guy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Haslet,Texas(DFW area) Posts: 1,506	If his guardian angel hadnt been a soccer goalie... __________________ Lighten up Francis!.....;Actor Warren Oats, in the movie "Stripes"

June 30, 2007, 06:58 AM	#14
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	Damn, that hurts just to watch it... you could here the dern round coming back at him.

June 30, 2007, 10:17 PM	#17
qlajlu Member Join Date: June 10, 2006 Location: Kearns, Utah Posts: 40	Video - Guy hit in head by .50 cal ricochet Check it out. The shot was taken at a steel plate and SHOULD have penetrated it, but it ricoched. You can hear it coming and see dust kick up when the bullet hit the ground just before smacking the shooter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher - If you are reading it in English, thank a veteran. Drive no faster than your guardian angel can fly.

July 1, 2007, 09:50 AM	#23
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Threads merged ... ... moving to General Discussion

June 29, 2007, 11:55 AM	#2
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	In a way, he's lucky. In a way, he's extremely unlucky - what's the chance that a ricochet would come directly straight back like that?

June 29, 2007, 12:10 PM	#4
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	This was posted over on THR. Somebody determined that the projectile, or what was left of it, was traveling only about 190 fps based upon the sound analysis and impact timing. That is still pretty fast. They also figured it was about 90 meters (100 yards). http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...ight=boom+head

June 29, 2007, 01:39 PM	#5
Rimrod Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 1,309	Was it the projectile that came back or a piece of the target?

June 29, 2007, 07:07 PM	#7
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	How do you know those rounds had a soft steel core? Just what .50 bmg round has a soft steel core?

June 29, 2007, 09:03 PM	#9
omegaspoon Junior Member Join Date: March 11, 2007 Posts: 11	hey the link to the video won't work and I'd really like to see this. Wondering if someone could find another link. Thanks

June 29, 2007, 10:31 PM	#10
Trajan Member Join Date: May 19, 2007 Posts: 51	doesn't work for me either

June 29, 2007, 10:37 PM	#11
tomh1426 Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2005 Location: Youngtown Arizona Posts: 1,135	Or me I shot a 7.62x54 at a steel plate and the steel penitrator (?) came pefectly staraight back and hit me over my eye. I was bleeding a lot and everyone I was with freaked out.

June 29, 2007, 11:07 PM	#12
Trapper L Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 804	The link works but its slow as in real slow. I was married to an ER nurse and she had a lady come in with a head wound from the same thing- shooting steel. Gotta make sure if you shoot steel that it is angled downward so any bullet hits the ground before flying off to parts unknown.

June 30, 2007, 02:19 AM	#13
Dannyboy303 Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2007 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 116	One of my friends shot a steel plate on accident with his 223 from about 20yards away and as soon as he fired he yelled out in pain. the base of the projectile had bounced back and hit him in the leg. lucky it didnt pierce but it did give a nice bruise. Even luckier was that it didnt hit me who was standing beside the moron

June 30, 2007, 10:19 PM	#18
redblair Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 313	That's scary. B Dec 15, 1791

June 30, 2007, 10:53 PM	#19
Don H Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2000 Location: SLC,Utah Posts: 2,704	Also under discussion here: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=252921

July 1, 2007, 12:02 AM	#20
redblair Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 313	Try this site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc B Dec 15, 1791

July 1, 2007, 12:22 AM	#21
tomh1426 Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2005 Location: Youngtown Arizona Posts: 1,135	Wow , I didnt think it would be like that. You can see it hit the dirt in front of him first , what are the odd's

July 1, 2007, 09:40 AM	#22
revjen45 Junior member Join Date: May 7, 2006 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 626	When I worked for Michigan Armament I took some of their .380s to the range. One shot came straight back and hit me in the forehead. Bad judgement in going shooting alone, good luck I wasn't injured.