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Join Date: September 12, 2005
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One more for the "Things like that don't happen here" crowd.
Home invasion with victims left to burn to death...
This is firearms related in that an armed homeowner may have been able to prevent this but an unarmed one is probably doomed. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290460,00.html Quote:
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Join Date: May 28, 2007
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Connecticut = Lots of wealthy, quiet people, somewhat liberal + restrictive gun laws = LOTS OF VICTIMS.
Sounds like the criminals are realizing. |
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Join Date: November 25, 2002
Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska
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Can we get the rest of the facts before we jump to conclusions
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Join Date: May 28, 2007
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Conclusions? Have you ever been to Connecticut? It is like that. A good bit of the state is just like one big sprawling gated community of "it can't happen here" neighborhoods just like that one.
It's just a reminder of what everyone knows, that vicious violent crime by sociopathic killers can most certainly happen absolutely anywhere, there is no magic safe area. |
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CT is as described but with isolated areas of "unpleasanteness" that are removed from the more enlightenned parts of the state. Bridgeport actually banned ski masks back in the 90s becasue they were often worn for purposes other than warmth...
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Yeah, and still Bridgeport is the most violent city in CT. Ask any cop in the state and they will tell you NOT to go there. I actually lived up Groton.New London area of CT for 8 years, with stays in North Stonington and Ledyard which are very gun friendly areas with hunt clubs and private ranges. It's near the Rhode Island border. But the farther you get towards New York, the more money people have, and the more scared they get. Sadly, those scared people, who make up 10% of the state, run 95% of it!
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Mother, Two Daughters Killed In Cheshire Home Invasion
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Sounds like an early morning break-in that caught the family unawares. Since the police are withholding the names of the suspects, they may be juveniles. Further speculation should wait until more details are known. Here's a link that everyone should have. It's gives you access to many of the newspapers around the U.S., so that you can confirm what you might read on Fox News or CNN. RefDesk.com is organized by state, so it's easy to navigate and track down leads.
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Join Date: May 31, 2004
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Very sad. If I were him, I'd be wishing they killed me too - to lose two kids at once - devastating. Not to mention his wife.
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Join Date: December 1, 2006
Location: Vermont
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Horrifying home invasion story
All the details are not included here, but this one must have been real bad. And as rare as something like this may be, to my mind anyway, it underscores why responsible people must keep home defense weapons available and should try to teach everyone in the household how to use them. We can't know (from this piece, at least) whether guns in the home might have thwarted these guys, but I'd be willing to guess they might have made all the difference.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/A...-Invasion.html |
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Join Date: February 18, 2007
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Made me sick. Glad the cops got the SOB's. That's all I'll say 'cause it makes me want to spit nails.
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Join Date: March 24, 2005
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Multiple threads merged.
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Home Invasion Suspects Identified
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![]() I'm guessing that something that made a professional firefighter, someone who has likely seen people burnt to a crisp, back out really quickly, plus the multimillion-dollar bail means that whatever they saw, it was really...bad. Quote:
Does Connecticut have a death penalty? |
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I believe killing a witness to a crime is a qualifier for the Federal Death Penalty. Killing everyone in the house after robbing it, their bank and raping them was clearly done with the intent to keep them from testifying against them.
That poor father must be comlpetely destroyed.
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. Why the hell aren't they being held without bond? It doesn't matter if they couldn't pay it or not it's a matter of principle. That's why I have a dog, pistol, and shotgun with me at night. So they coud leave in bodybags.
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There are new details at the last link I posted. For decencies sake, I will only post one relevent detail. Go to the link if you must, but please, there is no need to post what it says. Our imaginations are quite sufficient, I daresay.
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Join Date: January 4, 2006
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This unfortunate incident really hit hard, considering I personally know the survivor, Dr. Bill Petit. Back in the late 80s and 90s, he was an Emergency Department Physician at one of the two hospitals in the city I worked in. Many of the patients I brought in on the ambulance were treated by him. He is a well liked, knowledgable, and very caring individual, who didn't deserve this. Then again, nobody does.
It is situations like this where the 'three strike rule' should be a federal law. At the present time, Connecticut does not have that law. Maybe now, law makers will look to add it to CTs lawbooks. Would it have prevented this from happening? Who knows. But, it definately would hhave lessened the chances. Not to start probs with any other posters, but I noticed alot of "Connecticut Bashing" going on in this thread. As a former resident of Connecticut (born in Waterbury, (raised and lived in suburbs for 40 yrs) I take a deep offense to the bashing. Connecticut is not "Lots of wealthy, quiet people, somewhat liberal + restrictive gun laws = LOTS OF VICTIMS." as one poster said. It is a state full of hard working proud people trying to get by like the rest of us. You show me a state that doesn't have it's "wealthy, quiet and somewhat liberal" group of people and one state without some type of restrictive gun laws. Yeah, there are some areas with wealthy people, but every state has em. As far as the lots of victims, ..... I don't think so. Don't bash some place til ya lived or spent time there. |
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Join Date: December 12, 2006
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Hopefully people can learn from a tradgedy like this.
That a man in blue with a gold shield will not always be there to rescue you. Sometimes you have to save yourself. |
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Join Date: September 23, 2001
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So very tragic a story. 03:00... While some type of firearm might be part of the solution, a K9 or two would certainly fit into that equation. Of course, paroling criminals works , but at a cost to whom?
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Whenever I read stories like these I do three things.
I feel sorry for the people it happened to... I remind myself that things like this are so very rare and they are not a reason to give in to paranoia... I think to myself that things like this are the very reason I carry. |
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From Antipitas' link...
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Join Date: May 28, 2007
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I just read the new information in the article.
Swift execution is too good for these disgusting animals. ![]() And I agree, if someone breaks into a home where the occupants may be present, what do they think is going to happen if they're confronted?! It's not a nonviolent offense...that's why the law says you're allowed to use deadly force against them if they're in your home! Quote:
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Don't forget that the knife he carried he said was only for cutting the screens to the homes he was breaking into... If confronted he would never think to actually use it...
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Join Date: October 16, 2006
Location: Connecticut
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I'm sure our fine State Reps will find a way to suggest some more anti-gun laws due to this.
The fact that a gun wasn't used won't even come into play. At least we do have a death penalty here, but trying to actually use it is problematic.
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